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Please stop forcing PvP
Jul 16, 2021, 20:03 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Nov 18, 2022, 07:25 (UTC)
# 71
On: Nov 17, 2022, 23:12 (UTC), Written by Kijasson

 Because i do mostly Seasons on PVP Server since i can lvl up there in peace.

And why you want PvE server then? You look like someone who just hate PvP and posting without any thinking. Fear? Whys should we fear. We are PvE players too, or in general PvPvE and we chose BDO because its exactly that PvPvE. You clearly show us that if there is one PvE server you wont be there, because you wont be able to grind in peace. So yea you basicaly want to change the game, the game that all of us choose and like the way it is. And when all servers are PvE and someone comes and grind over you, you cant do sh1t what you gona want then? Single paly mode? How would you call it when you dont care about the game, dont care about majority of players that pick it because its PvPvE, dont care about Devs vission???

On: Nov 17, 2022, 22:13 (UTC), Written by OldWorldMonk

All we're doing is trying to "think outside the box" and come up with way(s) that BOTH communities can fully enjoy and benefit from the game, but PvPers would rather sit around and act like we're trying to destroy the game entirely and that is just not the case here! We want to be able to play this game without being harassed/pk'ed by other players, we want to be able to support the game as well cause it is a great game, (an awesome game in fact), but the ow PvP just kills it for myself and a lot of other people. Why can't any of you in the PvP community just put yourselves in our shoes for a moment and try to look at this from our perspective. Our voices are not being heard and our community is being downright ignored completely. How would you feel if our community was being catered to and your's was being ignored? Pretty crappy, right? Okay then, be more empathetic!

Actualy many of us try to suggest a way for everyone to be happy just to keep the spirit of the game. Guess what, the problem is most of you dont want that, but just PvP removed on all cost. No matter PKs hapens rare and you lose nothing.
And why you dont put yourselves in our place. We are PvE players too, we get PKed too. But there is one diference - we know its not harm. Come on, is it realy so bad if you die once in few weeks even months and yo ulose nothing? How can we be ok with something so rare, but you cant stand it.

And the problem is we know that you wont be ever happy, the person above even said it. You are not hapy for one hour Marni, you are not happy from few servers PvE only (Seasons)... And one point the game wont be that what most of us wanted. We all know what happens with games that shift its direction...
And youve been heard. Atleast heard by Devs and they speak about PvE only servers on every Ball. And they say no, they want their game to be like what it is.

Maybe show some respect about people and devs wishes?

Last Edit : Nov 18, 2022, 08:03 (UTC)
# 72

I'd like to ask only 1 question to PvE claimers: how do you see the gameplay then? (the rules, the buffs, the encounters with other players on your "pve spot"...)

Last Edit : Nov 18, 2022, 21:54 (UTC)
# 73
On: Nov 17, 2022, 22:13 (UTC), Written by OldWorldMonk
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On: Nov 17, 2022, 23:12 (UTC), Written by Kijasson

1. What exactley are you all fearing?

2. If PVP is that cool, why Arsha and Season PVP are almost empty? Because i do mostly Seasons on PVP Server since i can lvl up there in peace. And Horses were at a time more easier be found on Arsha than anywhere else.

I quoted a very specific dev interview for a reason, here, I will post it again and highlight some key words, because it's obvious you guys missed it:

"The PK system needs to be improved. New Adventurers or fearful Adventurers are too scared to play."
Black Desert is an open-world game designed to allow you go anywhere, and let’s you freely enjoy your choice in playstyle. However, the level of freedom goes up, it means other Adventurers are able to interfere in the adventures of others as you stated. But there are a variety of safeguards put in place that don’t compromise the fundamental freedoms of the game.

First of all, there are many safe zones spread around, including towns and cities, the inability to PK characters under level 50, and the growth server Olvia has forced PvP mode turned off. In addition, we created an environment where Adventurers who recklessly PK are imposed with disadvantages that makes it difficult to harass an Adventurer. On the other hand, for adventurers who want to enjoy PK, we are continuing to develop a variety of PVP content, along with the Battle Arena, Red Battlefield, Arena of Arsha, Node War, Conquest War, and the desert itself.

We will continue to think about ways to make your adventures more enjoyable.

 

Dev interview.  Refer to link: Black Desert | PEARL ABYSS (playblackdesert.com)

The point is not this illusion of "fear" you speak of --- I am presenting cold, hard facts = Dev statements, that clearly state that BDO is NOT designed for full on PVE servers.  READ THE FIRST DARN SENTENCE IN THEIR REPLY.  Words like "fundamental freedoms" should perfectly describe what kind of game BDO is at its core -- and that is a SANDBOX.  I am NOT going into an elementary school level discussion on what a Sandbox MMO is, but just know that BDO is NOT LIKE WoW, GW2, ESO, FF, or any of those other Themepark MMO's.  And a BIG contributing factor to this type of game design IS the persistent possibility of OWPVP.  Also, Arsha is not empty lol, I see people grinding or fighting there all the time.  In fact, I farmed my Infinite Potion all on Arsha and was in fights frequently.  You need to come up with actual data instead of anecdotes, because we can argue anecdotes all day and won't get anywhere.  WHERE ARE YOUR NUMBERS THAT SAY ARSHA IS "EMPTY"????  Season is empty --- including Season Arsha -- - it's Season..... it isn't the real game.  Self explanatory.  Only Noobs stay there, veterans only go there for the rewards and hardly return, if ever.

The possibility (key word here) of OWPVP in BDO is a primary way players INTERACT with each other.  Because of this constant possibility in grind zones, WE PLAYERS DECIDE how thing go down.  Grind spot etiquette is formed, GVG are formed, alliances, rivalries --- ALL THESE THINGS THAT MAKE THE MMORPG MEANINGFUL (interactions between players) are ALL brought about by the possibility of OWPVP.

The POINT is NOT if "YOU" like it or not.  The POINT is THIS IS HOW THE GAME IS DESIGNED.

I posted an image that CLEARLY says something along the lines of:

"The more obvious your 'solution' is, the more likely it's been thought of already and is REJECTED FOR A REASON".

Pure PVE has been requested since day freaking 1.  You have Season.  You have Marni Realm.  They are trying hard to accomodate you without COMPRIMISING THE KEY FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS of the game, that make it the LAST SURVIVING RELEVANT SANDBOX MMO out right now.  Pure PVE server will NEVER be a thing in BDO.  If it does, watch it die because stripping the game of it's PVX Fundamental is like taking a pillars out from under a bridge....it will FALL without these key pillars. 

GO RUIN ANOTHER GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last Edit : Nov 18, 2022, 23:16 (UTC)
# 74
Am 18. Nov 2022, 21:50 (UTC), von PeaceInChaos

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It does not need to be a PVE only Server. A special protection by lifeskill gear could do it too. There is a great topic about that idea. Or a Lifeskill only Server. Means no PVP but also no Monsters for grind. But it would be interesting if that Server or World is filled with new hunting species. The only thing you can do is cry, picking out the stuff you wanna read, in this case pve only Server, and nothing else. To say let it the way it is, is not a solution for all. Its just for you. Youre fine with the game, me honestly too. But still there are a lot that arent. And you only try to ignore them or get their mouths shut. Selfish at its best. And btw yes you have a fear. That normal Servers would turn to empty ones like the PVP server is today. I have my doubts that this would happen. But as i wrote, there are other options as a PVE only Server.

Last Edit : Nov 19, 2022, 00:14 (UTC)
# 75
On: Nov 18, 2022, 23:16 (UTC), Written by Kijasson

It does not need to be a PVE only Server. A special protection by lifeskill gear could do it too. There is a great topic about that idea. Or a Lifeskill only Server. Means no PVP but also no Monsters for grind. But it would be interesting if that Server or World is filled with new hunting species. The only thing you can do is cry, picking out the stuff you wanna read, in this case pve only Server, and nothing else. To say let it the way it is, is not a solution for all. Its just for you. Youre fine with the game, me honestly too. But still there are a lot that arent. And you only try to ignore them or get their mouths shut. Selfish at its best. And btw yes you have a fear. That normal Servers would turn to empty ones like the PVP server is today. I have my doubts that this would happen. But as i wrote, there are other options as a PVE only Server.

I've been in discussions like this since Kakao forum.  In my job, I tend to have a decent amount of downtime, so to fill it and keep my mind running, I chat on the forum.  I think I'm pretty passionate about BDO and enjoy a good debate / discussion / even trash talking at times, so yeah.

Being said, throughout these discussions, I, myself, suggested a Lifeskill Server at a time.  Whether or not it aligns with the devs' vision of the game, IDK, but is not something I'm 100% against, but not 100% for, either.  It needs careful analysis becuase it is a big change and big changes are those that could greatly impact a game.  If that impact is negative, then obviously, I'm not for that since I like this game.

You keep putting words / emotions into my mouth and it's, honestly, annoying AF and rude AF and seems more like an attempt at defamation, misrepresentation, and ad hominem instead of actually discussing.  I mean, I put a dev quote twice here, and everyone with your opinion didn't even address it.  KEK.  I am not trying to shut people's mouths -- I can't do that, nor would I try.  What I am doing is sharing MY opinion and laying down FACTS, like a dev interview. Say all you want --- If I think it's bogus or I'm against it, I WILL SPEAK OUT.  Asking to change the game mechiancs to suit your personal taste is 100% what this request is, and I'm somehow the selfish one for wanting BDO to remain --- well, BDO???  What a load of crock.  ANYONE is free to speak out against me as well.  That's what a discussion is, but have I said anything offensive to anyone here?  Have a said y'all are "crying" for asking for a server that will, undoubtedly in my mind, literally destroy BDO?  Sorry, but I'm not sorry that I'm destroying this shortsighted and ACTUALLY SELFISH request for PVE server. 

The fact you need to stoop down to such low-blow tactics like putting emotions into my words is pretty telling that what I'm saying is totally wrecking your arguments.  And that's great to know.  So keep it up, tell me what I feel and tell me more I'm "crying", when I've provided nothing but factual information backed by examples and even a quote from the devs saying how PVE servers are AGAINST game design.

All that being said.  BDO will do whatever the devs deem worthy.  I am just here waiting for Ashes of Creation Alpha 2 to drop and playing the crap out of AoC before the snowflakes comes in and ruin that game too :)

Last Edit : Nov 28, 2022, 01:17 (UTC)
# 76
On: Nov 18, 2022, 07:25 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

And why you want PvE server then? You look like someone who just hate PvP and posting without any thinking. Fear? Whys should we fear. We are PvE players too, or in general PvPvE and we chose BDO because its exactly that PvPvE. You clearly show us that if there is one PvE server you wont be there, because you wont be able to grind in peace. So yea you basicaly want to change the game, the game that all of us choose and like the way it is. And when all servers are PvE and someone comes and grind over you, you cant do sh1t what you gona want then? Single paly mode? How would you call it when you dont care about the game, dont care about majority of players that pick it because its PvPvE, dont care about Devs vission???

Actualy many of us try to suggest a way for everyone to be happy just to keep the spirit of the game. Guess what, the problem is most of you dont want that, but just PvP removed on all cost. No matter PKs hapens rare and you lose nothing.
And why you dont put yourselves in our place. We are PvE players too, we get PKed too. But there is one diference - we know its not harm. Come on, is it realy so bad if you die once in few weeks even months and yo ulose nothing? How can we be ok with something so rare, but you cant stand it.

And the problem is we know that you wont be ever happy, the person above even said it. You are not hapy for one hour Marni, you are not happy from few servers PvE only (Seasons)... And one point the game wont be that what most of us wanted. We all know what happens with games that shift its direction...
And youve been heard. Atleast heard by Devs and they speak about PvE only servers on every Ball. And they say no, they want their game to be like what it is.

Maybe show some respect about people and devs wishes?

The problem at it's core is not the pk'ing, it's the frequency at which it happens. What I mean by this is that it happens more than you all here claim it does, a LOT more in fact. Hell I've been pk'ed 8-9 times this month of November alone and you all are trying to make it out like it "rarely" ever happens at all, like you can explore for months and months without ever getting killed. False! I am proof of that. What's worse is when you're trying to complete a quest and some S.O.B. comes up behind you, kills you, and you have to respawn in a town/city halfway across the damn map. That shit gets aggravating after a while and is the main reason people leave the game in the first place! It doesn't matter if you don't lose anything cause of it! PA giving us "season servers" is not a valid argument either cause we have to start a new character every single time and start all the way over from scratch so what have they REALLY given us? I'll tell you what they did, instead of patching the wound so it could heal properly they just put a bandaid on top of a bandaid. Who the hell in their right mind wants to start over every 2-3 months especially with this game being so grind-heavy as it is? Thanks, but no thanks, we'll take our year-round PvE only servers now please. 

Oh and as for "respecting the Dev's wishes", I'll start doing that when they start respecting the PvE community's wishes. After all, respect is a two-way road.

Last Edit : Nov 28, 2022, 06:02 (UTC)
# 77
On: Nov 28, 2022, 01:17 (UTC), Written by OldWorldMonk

The problem at it's core is not the pk'ing, it's the frequency at which it happens. What I mean by this is that it happens more than you all here claim it does, a LOT more in fact. Hell I've been pk'ed 8-9 times this month of November alone and you all are trying to make it out like it "rarely" ever happens at all, like you can explore for months and months without ever getting killed. False! I am proof of that. What's worse is when you're trying to complete a quest and some S.O.B. comes up behind you, kills you, and you have to respawn in a town/city halfway across the damn map. That shit gets aggravating after a while and is the main reason people leave the game in the first place! It doesn't matter if you don't lose anything cause of it! PA giving us "season servers" is not a valid argument either cause we have to start a new character every single time and start all the way over from scratch so what have they REALLY given us? I'll tell you what they did, instead of patching the wound so it could heal properly they just put a bandaid on top of a bandaid. Who the hell in their right mind wants to start over every 2-3 months especially with this game being so grind-heavy as it is? Thanks, but no thanks, we'll take our year-round PvE only servers now please. 

Oh and as for "respecting the Dev's wishes", I'll start doing that when they start respecting the PvE community's wishes. After all, respect is a two-way road.

I don't believe this story, because it's obviously made up. You're proof? Everybody can say they are proof without presenting any visible facts. True there can be "bandits", but it's not a big enough reason to whine about it. Don't take the game too seriously. To see somebody out in the open PKing for his/her own fun (acting like an outlaw) other players is a rare sight. Like it can happen once or twice in 1-2 years.

Also... The topic about PvE servers is over. GM Ronin spoke to us all in another topic, that there won't be any regular PvE-only servers. And thus this gives a full stop on the discussion. Say what you want, but nothing is going to change. Move on.

[Feedback] PVP disabled server | Black Desert NA/EU/OC (playblackdesert.com)

Last Edit : Nov 28, 2022, 06:15 (UTC)
# 78

Pk will happen more on popular spots too, that's logical. So if one wants to go there, he has to be ready for that ; but he can also go on less popular spots and barely see any other player.

Your playstyle, your choices will have an impact on the occurrences of being attacked and maybe killed.

So, yes, maybe we should be more precise : pk does not happen so much... Unless you decide to go where it happens. 

Last Edit : Nov 28, 2022, 08:37 (UTC)
# 79

The more you split the playerbase, the emptier the world will become. It's already split more than it should be. If anything, we could do away with some server channels. Not adding more.

Last Edit : Nov 28, 2022, 09:28 (UTC)
# 80
On: Nov 28, 2022, 01:17 (UTC), Written by OldWorldMonk

The problem at it's core is not the pk'ing, it's the frequency at which it happens. What I mean by this is that it happens more than you all here claim it does, a LOT more in fact. Hell I've been pk'ed 8-9 times this month of November alone and you all are trying to make it out like it "rarely" ever happens at all, like you can explore for months and months without ever getting killed. False! I am proof of that. What's worse is when you're trying to complete a quest and some S.O.B. comes up behind you, kills you, and you have to respawn in a town/city halfway across the damn map. That shit gets aggravating after a while and is the main reason people leave the game in the first place! It doesn't matter if you don't lose anything cause of it! PA giving us "season servers" is not a valid argument either cause we have to start a new character every single time and start all the way over from scratch so what have they REALLY given us? I'll tell you what they did, instead of patching the wound so it could heal properly they just put a bandaid on top of a bandaid. Who the hell in their right mind wants to start over every 2-3 months especially with this game being so grind-heavy as it is? Thanks, but no thanks, we'll take our year-round PvE only servers now please. 

Oh and as for "respecting the Dev's wishes", I'll start doing that when they start respecting the PvE community's wishes. After all, respect is a two-way road.

The only frequent non-spot-interaction PKs that happen are targeted kills. Have you considered that you might be very unpopular thus raising your risk for being on kill on sight/hunt lists?

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