its overtuned. superb mobility, damage avoidance, ranged(!) grab, aoe range, nuts damage, shooting through walls/fences/barricades. 

Well at this point you clearly have not played the class at all and just make assumptions on what you have experienced. 

- Overtuned: As mentioned with other posts before it is not.

- Mobility: Decent, but not the highest out there especially after the nerf because every single movement skill has now somewhat of a windup animation.

- Damage Avoidance(?): You mean Iframes I assume 90% of classes have iframes that can be punished, Sage is far from Sorc level of Iframe capability

- Ranged Grab: Awa Lahn has the same range on her grab... + it is better to use it up close for longer cc duration

- Ranged Aoe: the only ranged big aoe is Lightning Prision... As mentioned before it has high cd, long animation and is only SA protected.

- Damage: Sage has good damage but is not far from overtuned. In fact he should have high damage as the squishiest class.

- Shooting Through Walls: Well the only skill you can truely throw through walls is Impaling Flash but you either end up in the ground or stuck in said wall because the skill is buggy as hell

To summerzie go play him on trial vs some experienced PvP players and you will notice that it is not as Op as you think it is. 

Well at this point you clearly have not played the class at all and just make assumptions on what you have experienced. 

- Overtuned: As mentioned with other posts before it is not.

- Mobility: Decent, but not the highest out there especially after the nerf because every single movement skill has now somewhat of a windup animation.

- Damage Avoidance(?): You mean Iframes I assume 90% of classes have iframes that can be punished, Sage is far from Sorc level of Iframe capability

- Ranged Grab: Awa Lahn has the same range on her grab... + it is better to use it up close for longer cc duration

- Ranged Aoe: the only ranged big aoe is Lightning Prision... As mentioned before it has high cd, long animation and is only SA protected.

- Damage: Sage has good damage but is not far from overtuned. In fact he should have high damage as the squishiest class.

- Shooting Through Walls: Well the only skill you can truely throw through walls is Impaling Flash but you either end up in the ground or stuck in said wall because the skill is buggy as hell

To summerzie go play him on trial vs some experienced PvP players and you will notice that it is not as Op as you think it is. 

"Shai a class PA said isn't meant for PVP is the weakest because it can do DP Memes and tank." Lol, reading comprehension alert right there. How does Shai having Defense Builds make her more susceptible to damage then a class without any base defensive stats or abilities to build off of that gets Shredded easily during SA skills? Let me help you understand,  classes most susceptible to damage, are those classes that don't have any defensive stats allowing for a build to mitigate damage. Be it evasion or damage reduction. Classes without this setup, will be much easier to kill even in SA, which his best skills are in. Classes that have high damage, shouldn't have good defense stats or they become very broken like the Hash thread and their complaints about Unkillable Hash's in RBF. Ninjas and Kunos who can build heavy evasion builds requiring high accuracy to even 80% hit if they're even caught during their gap free movement. 

To clarify, that means no DR or Evasion like Sorc, Ninja, Kuno, Musa, Hash etc. You can go evasion on most quick assassin style classes. You cannot on Awa Sage who also happens to have the longest cast times which makes him easy to punish especially with not fully protected movement like those classes....it's common sense...in t1 at much more balanced gear you can kill a Sage mid Lightening Prison with a single blizzard...oh yeah, bet since you're throwing out false assumptions,  didn't even bother to notice we're also weaker to magic damage then most classes, INCLUDING MUSA (7+ magic dr compared) too which is a much more important stat for a class that has no defensive passives to survive caster ranged attacks to begin with. Musa has Evasion passives, quick skills and better magic dr. Awa Sage Class, which IS NOT getting rebalanced like Musa is in Oct, is far from "broken" lol.

If the class had completely safe movement with no gaps like Ninja, Kuno, Sorc, Hash, Musa and Mae along with their defensive passives, better magic dr combined with current damage, then it'd be broken...but it's not. Comparing a newer class to classes that are literally getting reworked is moronic.

The class is far from being leaps and bounds better then older classes OR you'd see them everywhere like you do Casters. It is strong, but obviously not broken,  and your emotions coupled with ignorance and ego, are clearly preventing you from even thinking about it logically. Why else would you compare a class PA has said isn't a PVP Class but still has options to literally tank entire balls dps skills is somehow less tanky then a class that has not a single defensive skill or passive, would suggest. 

Well at this point you clearly have not played the class at all and just make assumptions on what you have experienced. 

- Overtuned: As mentioned with other posts before it is not.

- Mobility: Decent, but not the highest out there especially after the nerf because every single movement skill has now somewhat of a windup animation.

- Damage Avoidance(?): You mean Iframes I assume 90% of classes have iframes that can be punished, Sage is far from Sorc level of Iframe capability

- Ranged Grab: Awa Lahn has the same range on her grab... + it is better to use it up close for longer cc duration

- Ranged Aoe: the only ranged big aoe is Lightning Prision... As mentioned before it has high cd, long animation and is only SA protected.

- Damage: Sage has good damage but is not far from overtuned. In fact he should have high damage as the squishiest class.

- Shooting Through Walls: Well the only skill you can truely throw through walls is Impaling Flash but you either end up in the ground or stuck in said wall because the skill is buggy as hell

To summerzie go play him on trial vs some experienced PvP players and you will notice that it is not as Op as you think it is. 

Shais literally lack the ability to defend themselves. You can tank and spank a shai. She has no grabs, her damage is intentionally nerfed to nothing, and she has less than half a real kit to even use. She's built purely to heal and support other players. She is the weakest class in the game defensively and offensively.

No base defense stats, huh? I guess you missed this post that was made after they put the "view my stats" option on glabs: https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/ogy5hj/character_base_stats_spreadsheet/

Sages literally tie with Hash, Ninja, and Kuno for highest base evasion in the game. Guess we should be thankful they didn't make the class even more overtuned by giving it access to evasion buffs on top of all the accuracy bonuses, dp cuts, and eva cuts you get access to.

Ninjas don't have gap free movement. It was said live on stream that Ghost Step has intended gaps during the Best-in-Class Ninja matches. I won't get into the whole actual iframe debate, but Shadow Stomp and MI are both parts of Ninja movement, and they're both unprotected as well. 

Long casting times? Bruh, you didn't play during the preawakening era. Wizard and Witch had long cast times without sage's memory. Anything you do is fast in comparison. And even if it could be considered slow, you can't be punished for it since you can just cancel any of your skills into Bolt or Rift chain.

Gasp! You're weak to magic damage? Witch, Wizard, DK, Sorc, Ranger, Tamer, Lahn, Archer, Shai, and Hash, too! They all have the same base Magic DR that you do.

You actually think Sage doesn't have defensive skills? Damn, no wonder you're complaining. You don't know that Rift Chain or Bolt exist. This whole argument makes so much sense now. Sage has higher base eva and higher dr in all categories except magic dr compared to Shai. If she can run dp meme build and live, then so can you. Imagine literally playing a class that top frags in nodewars with less death count than other top frag classes but still managing to complain that you have less survivability than a Shai. Unreal.

- Still overtuned.

- Still more mobility than a Sorc.

- It's pretty on par, especially since you can cancel any skill with it, and the iframe doesn't have any noticeable gap. I never see a Sage complain that they get caught in the iframe. Only when they get caught in an unprotected skill leading up to it, or during another skill after.

- A grab is a grab, and a ranged grab is even better. It's still a ranged grab no matter how you try to frame it.

- Imagine having a big ranged damage ability with SA on it. Imagine if eating all the hits of Katana Shower from a Ninja, for whatever reason, meant 60% of your health was gone, it didn't even have to land a cc for that, and you could cancel it at any time with an iframe if you're danger (hint: you can't do any of that with katana shower!) But boo hoo. It's too slow!

- Only good damage, but sages are top fragging in nws and typically have high point count in rbf. The three classes I see with the most points in RBF these days are awk Sage, awk Lahn, and succ Hash. But yeah, just good damage, I guess.

Well at this point you clearly have not played the class at all and just make assumptions on what you have experienced. 

- Overtuned: As mentioned with other posts before it is not.

- Mobility: Decent, but not the highest out there especially after the nerf because every single movement skill has now somewhat of a windup animation.

- Damage Avoidance(?): You mean Iframes I assume 90% of classes have iframes that can be punished, Sage is far from Sorc level of Iframe capability

- Ranged Grab: Awa Lahn has the same range on her grab... + it is better to use it up close for longer cc duration

- Ranged Aoe: the only ranged big aoe is Lightning Prision... As mentioned before it has high cd, long animation and is only SA protected.

- Damage: Sage has good damage but is not far from overtuned. In fact he should have high damage as the squishiest class.

- Shooting Through Walls: Well the only skill you can truely throw through walls is Impaling Flash but you either end up in the ground or stuck in said wall because the skill is buggy as hell

To summerzie go play him on trial vs some experienced PvP players and you will notice that it is not as Op as you think it is. 

u r actually delusional if u defend that broken crap

hate to play that card and be that guy, but whats your gear?

279/334 right now, go ahead and tell me it is low if you really want to play that card :-) 

sadly, that is really low. (in both offense and defense.)

Sure thing, it is always to low for professionals like you :-).