Broken Awakened Sage
Jul 18, 2021, 05:27 (UTC)
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# 21
On: Jul 26, 2021, 16:35 (UTC), Written by Ichbin
279/334 right now, go ahead and tell me it is low if you really want to play that card :-)
That ap is good if it's with kutum, but your dp is really low. Anything below 350-360 is too low for modern pvp. Now I understand why you guys complain about your survivability and supposed non-existent base stats. You guys have paper for armor. Going to gvgs with 320-330 dp is asking to get blown up in two or three skills.
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Jul 27, 2021, 17:39 (UTC)
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Yes dude, you forgot the golden rule : if 50% of the players have a sage tag nowadays it's because the class is super weak and so hard to play it's well know, just like wizard and witch were for a period "Go buff sage" since only 50% of the players play it, make it 100% of playerbase.
But of course it's well known, sage awakening is a "weak" class (with hard gameplay, or low stats) like ranger, valk awake ... That's why only 50% of the playerbase play it.
Kewk, those main sage never stop to surprise me.
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Jul 28, 2021, 20:22 (UTC)
# 23
On: Jul 25, 2021, 23:14 (UTC), Written by Seeryus
its overtuned. superb mobility, damage avoidance, ranged(!) grab, aoe range, nuts damage, shooting through walls/fences/barricades.
Fighting Awak. Sage so far is monkaS, that's all I'll say lol. Haven't fouoght Awak. Sage's religiously, and maybe the Awak. Sage's I've 1v1'd were just really good players with gear, but monka frigigin S. I know one is, a geared and skilled guildie. monkaS is the best way to describe the 1v1's.
I would like to delve deeper into the matchup, but from what it seems so far, Awak. Sage vs Awak. Sorc, it's monkaS lol. Almost feels like fighting a squishier version of a mid-ranged Guardian, except who also has iframes o__O' Can't trade, since abilities will chunk out Sorc's limited SA's. Iframe > ability > Iframe, need to catch his back while he's unprotected, which is tricky since Awak. Sage is really slippery, similar to Sorc, lots of in-fight mobility. That and IDK all of Awak. Sage's protections, yet at least. Sage can keep up with Sorc's iframe > ability loop to a respectful degreee, able to iframe into PROTECTED ability into iframe into another protected ability. Abilities are not as fast as Sorc, but the AoE's....and damage...and protection....and CC...rolled into one skill.
monkaS.
And he got a ranged grab. o____O'
I need to git gudder.
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On: Jul 28, 2021, 23:32 (UTC), Written by Seeryus
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# 26
On: Jul 28, 2021, 23:32 (UTC), Written by Seeryus
Meanwhile DK dash moves a half meter and gets killed mid iframe, best balance on the market /LMAO
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Aug 1, 2021, 23:34 (UTC)
# 27
On: Jul 27, 2021, 02:51 (UTC), Written by Xenon
That ap is good if it's with kutum, but your dp is really low. Anything below 350-360 is too low for modern pvp. Now I understand why you guys complain about your survivability and supposed non-existent base stats. You guys have paper for armor. Going to gvgs with 320-330 dp is asking to get blown up in two or three skills.
299/307 (kutum)/375 atm - I dont think sage is op, it has many gaps, dmg skills must be used to chain SA rotation, he is quite squishy (not as much as archer). U have to be really skilled to outplay others with good gear and skill. I think he is in a good spot atm - in right hands can be deadly in 1vs1 and small scale BUT same goes for most well rounded and geared classes. And in opposition to Archer - when I loose a duel I know I had messed up (or my opponent played better) and there is a spot for improvement ...
On: Jul 27, 2021, 17:39 (UTC), Written by Sadoir
Yes dude, you forgot the golden rule : if 50% of the players have a sage tag nowadays it's because the class is super weak and so hard to play it's well know, just like wizard and witch were for a period "Go buff sage" since only 50% of the players play it, make it 100% of playerbase.
But of course it's well known, sage awakening is a "weak" class (with hard gameplay, or low stats) like ranger, valk awake ... That's why only 50% of the playerbase play it.
Kewk, those main sage never stop to surprise me.
hmm so why is Sage getting less used? Maybe u shouldnt stop counting tagging him for free hystria/akman/sycraia/harsah teleport?
On: Jul 28, 2021, 23:32 (UTC), Written by Seeryus
So what do u want to prove? There are no Gear check etc. There are plenty of such clips "proveing" that Ninja, kuno, Lahn, Warior, Mystic, Wizard, Witch, Striker and Hash or EVEN Archer is OP.
Posting such clips proves ONLY how far certain person is from understanding what OP means...
Go watch some https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC958ajcDbXyVxhOluKZgxQA Sage pvp wideos and you will find out that after buffs/nerfs Sage cant win most fights as stated OP class would. Even in a hands of skilled player.
P.S: I especially suggest to check sage vs mystic and vs striker videos:)
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Aug 2, 2021, 05:58 (UTC)
# 28
On: Jul 20, 2021, 19:23 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz
Couldn't agree more, class isn't broken compared to where Casters STILL stand and it's always those same casters complaining who have more defensive abilities AND damage then an Awakening Sage could dream about.
Infact, Awa Sage has zero defense passives, is susceptible to magic damage AND has shitty heals. Even our movement is full of gaps (Can kill a Awa Sage in T1s with blizzard alone because of the gaps and any multiple hit skill landing during overcharge cast) and majority of our skills are mid to close range often putting us into danger with a mainhand kit that is unseasonably slow in pvp limiting the kit even further...Ppl get hit with Lightening Prison the only decent long range high damage skill in the kit and cry for nerfs when we're already the weakest class defensive speaking in the game. We are the very definition of a glass cannon with no defensive stats unlike all the other glass cannon that have great damage, evasion/dr and/or heals on top of it lol.
Awakening Sage excels in offense AND only offense. Every Sage will tell you this. We are one of, if not the weakest class in the game when it comes to taking damage. Also, in the same vein, we're one of the few classes that has actual balance for the way the kit was designed...unlike casters who still have everything.
No, they are way more broken than wizzards were before nerfs.
They have way better mobility, more protections and infinitely more dmg with each single skill dealing shit ton of dmg, and there is nothing you could do when you see a well played sage, he counter everything and everyone thanks to the dmg modifiers and accuracy that he has over 40% on skills for no reason whatsoever.
At least with wizzards u could rekt them 1v1, and they were pretty useless vs classes with magic DR, but sage? Lol
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Aug 2, 2021, 13:52 (UTC)
# 29
On: Aug 2, 2021, 05:58 (UTC), Written by balans
No, they are way more broken than wizzards were before nerfs.
They have way better mobility, more protections and infinitely more dmg with each single skill dealing shit ton of dmg, and there is nothing you could do when you see a well played sage, he counter everything and everyone thanks to the dmg modifiers and accuracy that he has over 40% on skills for no reason whatsoever.
At least with wizzards u could rekt them 1v1, and they were pretty useless vs classes with magic DR, but sage? Lol
As many ppl only whine but avoid reading posts that can threat illusion they used to ill repeat myself:
Go watch some https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC958ajcDbXyVxhOluKZgxQA Sage pvp wideos and you will find out that after buffs/nerfs Sage cant win most fights as stated OP class would. Even in a hands of skilled player. I especially suggest to check sage vs mystic and vs striker videos:) (YES sage also suffers from magic dr classes).
Oh and PLZ tell me which Sage skill has 40% accuracy? I just check all of them and 2 awk skills has 10% (rest have 2-8%, mainly 4%) and succ - few have 15% acc (I dont play succ anyway since its overnerfed).
Even if we add passive acc modifier there is no way we can reach 40%.
Oh and about summons: all summon based skills in game have 50% acc.
Maybe those well played sages overgeared u or u just need some more pvp practice? Maybe its not a best reason to cry about non-existat sage op-ness?
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Aug 2, 2021, 14:35 (UTC)
# 30
Am 24. Jul 2021, 16:48 (UTC), von Ichbin
Since I both played Musa and now Sage I can agree about Musa needing a buff since ages. He is skillkitwise one of the weakest classes right now and PA should adress it.
But on the other hand, no sage is neither broken op nor very bad. In awakening he is very punishable after every 0.5 second iframe he does, has no defensive passives and bad sustain + the only protected cc sage got is Core: Lightning Prison which has a long cd. Succ spec is even worse after all the nerfs it received.
There is counterplay vs Sage so there is nothing that makes him op.
And Shai... yes sure make that class good in grinding and you got a class that has everything... She is already the best lifeskilling class and the only real support in the game. There is no need to also make her capable of grinding fast or deal tons of dmg.
Shai isnt the best in lifeskils... Her animations her speed, for gatherring is musa the best class or u mean cuz she starts with gatherring and xD i dont wnt so say the name of this meme life skill "alchemy"
No class can kill ppl in 1o1 with 90les gear score, but this sage can.
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