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BDO is not proper mmo
Jul 19, 2021, 20:25 (UTC)
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# 22
On: Jul 19, 2021, 20:25 (UTC), Written by Zaolee

I think in every spot you should be able to group up with people. I mean grouping with 1-5 people so it would scale mob hp / xp / sp / items. Currently only place is 3 in miru, but for my gear that is bad silver.

 

Currently I have to grind solo and only interraction I get is DFS. And ofc when one lose other person feels pissed. I have grinded solo now past like 1-year after I stopped mirus. Only exception was duo in turos for week until got my fallen chest.

 

If any new player is getting invested to this game remember that this game is single player instead well built mmo. 

Padix, Abandoned Monastery, Seasonal Shultz, Seasonal Basilisk, Seasonal Waragons, Gyfin, Mirumok, Altar Imps, Turos, Oluns, Castle Ruins...

 

Maybe play the game some more before commenting that there are only two grind spots available for groups.

Last Edit : Jul 21, 2021, 12:52 (UTC)
# 23
On: Jul 21, 2021, 03:07 (UTC), Written by Franklins

They are doing a seasonal stream every Friday in BDO, the GM doing the stream is grouped with other players the entire time, and those other players are actively helping him through ever aspect of the game, making it go far quicker than if he was to do it solo.  But hey keep telling yourself more lies, I for one believe none of them.

Only one telling themselves lies is you. Cause lol people stand next to you watching you play isn't considered helping. It just go inhibit them either.

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Last Edit : Jul 21, 2021, 14:54 (UTC)
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Single player is how I like it, and the fact that they changed some of the spots to group spots for the season is extremely annoying IMHO.

 

PA is trying to do more with group content (e.g. Atoraxxion), but personally, I think that it's making the game worse. If I wanted to play with other people, I'd play a different game.

Last Edit : Jul 21, 2021, 16:20 (UTC)
# 25
On: Jul 21, 2021, 14:54 (UTC), Written by Quelnar

Single player is how I like it, and the fact that they changed some of the spots to group spots for the season is extremely annoying IMHO.

 

PA is trying to do more with group content (e.g. Atoraxxion), but personally, I think that it's making the game worse. If I wanted to play with other people, I'd play a different game.

No they didn't just make those zones group zone. They have always been group zones, they just overall buffed the mobs and are now forcing people to group to clear them, which also resulted in nerfing the silver per hour in those zones. I remember last season I lvled my guardian at shulz the whole season with one of my guildmates who was using the season to hard roll to scor. We grouped there all the time making 60-80m an hour, but now they thought it would  be a good idea to overall buff the mobs and make it so at best your making 40m an hour there but that also requires a full group. Making shared loot in all zones is one thing, making mobs unkillable solo is another thing.

 

It just PA incompetence showing that all, they have no idea how to improve the game and are just tossing in features and changes without thought as to how it negatively affects the game. They literally completely nerfed whole zones to force people to group in them, not to make them group spots, because they already were group spots no they nerfed them to force grouping. Than they wonder why people call them incompetent.

 

This is literally the exact same thing they did with gate keeper mobs. No don't increase the rewards for killing them in a group, no just flat out buff them to absurd levels and force people to group to kill them. Than wonder why no one kills gate keepers any more.

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Last Edit : Jul 21, 2021, 16:32 (UTC)
# 26
On: Jul 21, 2021, 16:08 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

No they didn't just make those zones group zone. They have always been group zones, they just overall buffed the mobs and are now forcing people to group to clear them, which also resulted in nerfing the silver per hour in those zones. I remember last season I lvled my guardian at shulz the whole season with one of my guildmates who was using the season to hard roll to scor. We grouped there all the time making 60-80m an hour, but now they thought it would  be a good idea to overall buff the mobs and make it so at best your making 40m an hour there but that also requires a full group. Making shared loot in all zones is one thing, making mobs unkillable solo is another thing.

 

It just PA incompetence showing that all, they have no idea how to improve the game and are just tossing in features and changes without thought as to how it negatively affects the game. They literally completely nerfed whole zones to force people to group in them, not to make them group spots, because they already were group spots no they nerfed them to force grouping. Than they wonder why people call them incompetent. This is literally the exact same thing they did with gate keeper mobs, no don't increase the rewards for killing them in a group, no just flat out buff them to absurd levels and force people to group to kill them, than wonder why no one kills them annoy more.

PA specifically stated in the season announcement that the Waragon Nest, Basilisk Den, and Shultz Guard areas were changed to "party monster zones" for the duration of the season. Prior to that, there was absolutely no need to have a group when grinding there. I have no clue why you would think that they were group spots before. Sure, you could choose to grind there in a group, just like you could choose to do that in any zone, but it was completely unnecessary, whereas PA went and made it pretty much necessary for the season, which is the problem. I couldn't care less if someone wants to grind an area with their friends, but IMHO, it shouldn't be forced. And if they keep pushing content that has to be done in a group, then I'll likely end up quitting the game. I'll help out a guildmate when they need it, but really, I have zero interest in doing content with anyone else. Part of what makes BDO great is that for the most part, it is effectively a single player game even though it's an MMO.

 

In any case, I definitely agree that the fact that PA has increased the difficulty for stuff like the gatekeepers and those three zones in order to promote group play is bad. I just don't understand why you would think that any of these spots were group spots before when there was zero need to use a group before, and PA basically said that they'd been temporarily changed to group spots for the season. They just used the term "party monster zone" rather than "group zone."

Last Edit : Jul 21, 2021, 19:14 (UTC)
# 27
On: Jul 21, 2021, 16:32 (UTC), Written by Quelnar

PA specifically stated in the season announcement that the Waragon Nest, Basilisk Den, and Shultz Guard areas were changed to "party monster zones" for the duration of the season. Prior to that, there was absolutely no need to have a group when grinding there.

Yet prior to this you could also still group and all get loot from killing the mobs. Here the issue here your being manipulated by the BS cup that is PA BS excuse to implemented bad changes. Fact stands before this season loot sharing was enabled in these zone, once season started loot sharing was still enabled they just made the mobs unkillable solo. So the point is you've been had and need to realize PA's reasons are complete BS an non existent. These zones were already group zone, PA just nerfed them and made up a BS excuse for the nerf one that clearly fouled completely.

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Last Edit : Jul 21, 2021, 22:55 (UTC)
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On: Jul 21, 2021, 19:14 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Yet prior to this you could also still group and all get loot from killing the mobs. Here the issue here your being manipulated by the BS cup that is PA BS excuse to implemented bad changes. Fact stands before this season loot sharing was enabled in these zone, once season started loot sharing was still enabled they just made the mobs unkillable solo. So the point is you've been had and need to realize PA's reasons are complete BS an non existent. These zones were already group zone, PA just nerfed them and made up a BS excuse for the nerf one that clearly fouled completely.

Isn't loot sharing always enabled if you're in a party, and your levels aren't too far apart? Since when did that have anything to do with any particular zone? There are exceptions (such as bosses), but by your definition, pretty much every zone in the game is a group zone. From what I've seen, most folks don't consider a zone a group zone unless you pretty much need a group to grind there, and that's what PA seems to have considered to be the case with these zones, since they specifically stated that they changed them to be for parties.

 

Regardless, the core problem here is that PA went and took several zones that you could trivially do solo and went and made it so that they pretty much had to be done in a group, and that's what sucks. So, I guess that it's ultimately pointless to argue over terminology, but your definition of a group zone does not line up with how I've seen anyone else use the term or with what PA seems to consider a group zone.

Last Edit : Jul 21, 2021, 23:16 (UTC)
# 29
On: Jul 21, 2021, 22:55 (UTC), Written by Quelnar

Isn't loot sharing always enabled if you're in a party, and your levels aren't too far apart? Since when did that have anything to do with any particular zone? There are exceptions (such as bosses), but by your definition, pretty much every zone in the game is a group zone. From what I've seen, most folks don't consider a zone a group zone unless you pretty much need a group to grind there, and that's what PA seems to have considered to be the case with these zones, since they specifically stated that they changed them to be for parties.

 

Regardless, the core problem here is that PA went and took several zones that you could trivially do solo and went and made it so that they pretty much had to be done in a group, and that's what sucks. So, I guess that it's ultimately pointless to argue over terminology, but your definition of a group zone does not line up with how I've seen anyone else use the term or with what PA seems to consider a group zone.

I have so far soloed waragons as there was nobody there while I was. I will see what happens with basilisk and Shultz when I get to them. I actually like the challenge of doing the big waragon solo as you relly need to be aware if positioning at times. I also care not at all for min/max so I guess that helps.

Last Edit : Jul 22, 2021, 00:06 (UTC)
# 30
On: Jul 21, 2021, 22:55 (UTC), Written by Quelnar

Isn't loot sharing always enabled if you're in a party, and your levels aren't too far apart? Since when did that have anything to do with any particular zone? There are exceptions (such as bosses), but by your definition, pretty much every zone in the game is a group zone. From what I've seen, most folks don't consider a zone a group zone unless you pretty much need a group to grind there, and that's what PA seems to have considered to be the case with these zones, since they specifically stated that they changed them to be for parties.

 

Regardless, the core problem here is that PA went and took several zones that you could trivially do solo and went and made it so that they pretty much had to be done in a group, and that's what sucks. So, I guess that it's ultimately pointless to argue over terminology, but your definition of a group zone does not line up with how I've seen anyone else use the term or with what PA seems to consider a group zone.

Loot sharing is not enabled in 90% of the game zones. Most zone it who ever got the last hit gets the loot even if your in a party with someone. However in the few zones with loot sharing like shulz as long as your in the same party and everyone hit the mob once everyone gets loot from the mob. So no not every zone is a group zone because most zones physically punish you for killing mobs with someone who does more damage than you sense they'll be the ones getting the last hit on the mobs more often thus getting all the loot. So ya when I say this wasn't PA making these zones group zones I mean they didn't actually change how loot works in them, cause they already had loot sharing enabled. All PA did was buff the mobs HP and DP for no logical or explainable reason, but they congured the BS reason that it was to encouraging grouping when in reality it just discourages people from wanting to grind there now.

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