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The % is all an illusion.
Jul 25, 2021, 12:41 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 00:19 (UTC)
# 11
On: Jul 25, 2021, 12:41 (UTC), Written by Muncha

Something else came up recently about carnival games that gave me a pretty good idea whats going on with enhancement success and RNG or certain elements in the game. Ever wonder why you cant turn off the guild/party enhancements notifications, and you KNOW that streamers get carried, because PA want you to see that, but they will never show you the failed attempts.

 

Lets say, PA allows 50 PEN items to be enhanced per day, or per week, per server. Once that quota has been met NO ONE will be able to enhance to PEN for the rest of the day/week. No matter how many times you try even with a 70% chance stack you will allways fail, then you try again the next day and succeed first time. I tried to TET a red nose armor FIVE times in a row with a 50% chance stack and ended up with a DUO. To get my Tuvala weapon to PEN I wasted 1000 cron stones. thats like worth $100 if I bought them with pearls.

 

Some players did a test a year or two ago and tested enhanceing with different stacks at different times and found that if they had succeeded multiple times in a row, then tried to enchant something higher, no matter how many times they trried after X ammount of successes they would allways fail no matter how many times they tried for the rest of that day. Then the next day they tried and succeded multiple times in a row, and then nothing at all for the rest of the day despite the enhancent stacks they had.

 

My First Tuvala TRI and TET attempt succeeded after 2 attempts (with crons), then the next succeded after 4 attempts, then I swapped to a different piece of gear and tried to TET at the same enhancement % cahnce and succeeded after 5 attempts. Still using my remaining crons I succeeded to PEN the main weapon after 6 attempts, The Sub weapon PEN succeded after 1000 crons were used (7/8 attmepts), then my awaken weapon just would not pop PEN after another 1000 Crons, I only hed enough Crons by that stage to do 1 more attempt and said Ill try again tomorrow, which I did, I got some crons from some bosses and the awaken weapon popped on the second attempt.

 

This applies to every RNG in the game, Item drop chance, enhancement cahnce, boss loot, etc. The % chance you are shown is an illusion. a scam. each player is only allowed to have so many successes every day, or week, and only so many people succeed per server. If you are going to try a PEN attempt, wait untill the next day, and go to a server with a low population, then try to PEN it and let me know the results here.

 

 

Always has been. Also, percentages aren't guaranteed unless it's 100% or 0% as a general rule.

Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 01:37 (UTC)
# 12

I'm not being mean at all, so please don't take this the wrong way; I honestly would recommend taking some time to learn about statistics, probability (especially) and math in general. Because it is abundantly clear to the vast majority of us that play this game, that those that complain about enhancing simply do not seem to grasp some very fundamental concepts. 

 

I know it may not seem so, but outrageously ludicrous posts only serve to tarnish ones own image, and devalue anything you have to say in future, be it reasonable or no. And that is no good to anyone, for in future you likely will have something worthwhile to add to the community at some point, and I would hate to see it dismissed entirely from the outset simply because you've previously soiled your reputation. 

 

I hope with increased understanding, players will sincerely try to understand how the system works and cease with perpetuating nonsensical (and completely unfounded) conspiracy theories. I know it's extremely unlikely - as some vocal gamers theses days blame anyone and anything but themselves for any shortcomings - but it is my hope.

Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 08:16 (UTC)
# 13

You cronstoned pen tuvala ? O.O 

 

 

80% success rate means u can hit the 20% corner, thats why its posible to build up 40+ fs wit white gear

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Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 09:43 (UTC)
# 15
On: Jul 25, 2021, 18:37 (UTC), Written by PootyPoot

 

This guy is so full of crap

 

again, why would people lie to fit their views? 1-0.5^5 comes out to a 96.875% chance of success a tet armor.



I was at that site when I attempted the TET enhancements, that site is complete BS, the numbers are waaaaaaaaaay off. It doesnt take into account all the other factors that affect your enhancement success, because the person who made that calculator has no idea whats realy going on. Those are just wild guesses based on the probabilities that we're shown on the front end, which is not the results ANYONE actually sees when they enhance thier gear.

 

Yes, I did exagerate to get my point accross, it was 40%, but even at 40% I should have hit TET by the third attempt.

Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 10:05 (UTC)
# 16
On: Jul 25, 2021, 18:37 (UTC), Written by PootyPoot

 

This guy is so full of crap

 

again, why would people lie to fit their views? 1-0.5^5 comes out to a 96.875% chance of success a tet armor.

ROFL, that is NOT the algorithm PA uses.

Get it to fail 20 times in a row regularly on 60% duo an tri stacks, then you may be working with the right simulator.

Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 10:32 (UTC)
# 17

Im pretty certain that crons also give a big % increase seeing as theyre pearlshop items. PA give you some crons every time an event happens to entice you to buy more when you see they help you succeed. But they wont show you that % increase on the UI to try and hide the fact that is a big pay to win mechanic.

Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 11:34 (UTC)
# 18
On: Jul 26, 2021, 01:37 (UTC), Written by Reverielle

I'm not being mean at all, so please don't take this the wrong way; I honestly would recommend taking some time to learn about statistics, probability (especially) and math in general. Because it is abundantly clear to the vast majority of us that play this game, that those that complain about enhancing simply do not seem to grasp some very fundamental concepts. 

 

I know it may not seem so, but outrageously ludicrous posts only serve to tarnish ones own image, and devalue anything you have to say in future, be it reasonable or no. And that is no good to anyone, for in future you likely will have something worthwhile to add to the community at some point, and I would hate to see it dismissed entirely from the outset simply because you've previously soiled your reputation. 

 

I hope with increased understanding, players will sincerely try to understand how the system works and cease with perpetuating nonsensical (and completely unfounded) conspiracy theories. I know it's extremely unlikely - as some vocal gamers theses days blame anyone and anything but themselves for any shortcomings - but it is my hope.

Actually knowledge on statistics wont help anyone here. PA never certified their software through any scientific gaming regulatory body. Its fixed to maximize profit.

Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 14:58 (UTC)
# 19

Not at all.

It's not a chance either. It isn't a fix rate of success, it is probability, and probability, can be infinately unobtainable.

Accept it. Move on.

 

Last Edit : Jul 26, 2021, 15:12 (UTC)
# 20

There are three types of people in the world

Those that can count, and those that can't

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