PVP dies or not, its a meh for me. I don't play this game for PVP - I do it for the PVE. I only play MMOs for PVE w/ interactions with others. Games like RuneScape, WoW, FFXIV, and BDO, only do it for the pve and nothing else. Idc if I'm losing out, nor do I care about this new Crimson Desert game (which isn't even a MMO, considering it's centric on a singular character - and is going to be a single-player game). (Single player like ASC, GDW, most FF series, etc). 

You gotta stop generalizing. 

Besides, people claim hundreds of games are dying, and boy, wait until you find out that literally every MMO has class unbalance issues. WoW being a big one. Like you think BDO is bad? You never met Blizzard.

So yeah.

BDO is NOT going to die. You do know it has a large player base right? And they made over 1 billion USD? This is not the sales of a game thats dying.

Look at Runescape, only like 500-600 million USD, and after 20 years, it's still going kinda strong.

PVP dies or not, its a meh for me. I don't play this game for PVP - I do it for the PVE. I only play MMOs for PVE w/ interactions with others. Games like RuneScape, WoW, FFXIV, and BDO, only do it for the pve and nothing else. Idc if I'm losing out, nor do I care about this new Crimson Desert game (which isn't even a MMO, considering it's centric on a singular character - and is going to be a single-player game). (Single player like ASC, GDW, most FF series, etc). 

You gotta stop generalizing. 

Besides, people claim hundreds of games are dying, and boy, wait until you find out that literally every MMO has class unbalance issues. WoW being a big one. Like you think BDO is bad? You never met Blizzard.

So yeah.

BDO is NOT going to die. You do know it has a large player base right? And they made over 1 billion USD? This is not the sales of a game thats dying.

Look at Runescape, only like 500-600 million USD, and after 20 years, it's still going kinda strong.

Simply put this game PVP is dying fast because it ruled mostly by 5 classes witch, wizard, Ninja, guardian, and valk. 

Stopped reading after the first sentence. I knew with your introduction sentence that you're a severe case of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. 

I can't believe this thread made it to the 3rd almost 4th page. It's basically a 4v1 pissing match because some people.  That took something said about the game as a personal attack. Just wow guys. Oh, my  queue just popped in another MMO BBL.

Simply put this game PVP is dying fast because it ruled mostly by 5 classes witch, wizard, Ninja, guardian, and valk. 2 of these five classes are completely OP in ways that make zero sense with having the highest DPS in the game, the most and biggest AOE skills, the most protected skills in the game, the strongest utility in the game, the most CCs that are also completely protected, and if you play succ versions of them they have some of the best most protected movement in the game. The only counter to these 2 OP classes that we all know to be witch, and wizard is and equally broken mechanic called grab which the only counter to grab is stacking grapple resistance and praying to RNG that you resist the grab.

What left when the PVP scene completely dies is PVE but with Crimson Desert coming out this year which will be similar to BDO in design (sense it made by the same company) most of the people that enjoy BDO's PVE will flock over to that game than anyone who remains cause they feel invested will slowly trickly over to crimson dersert do too a dropping # in players on BDO.

Simply put if PA doesn't nerf the two OP classes in this game this year this game will die. But sense PA response on balancing this game in 2018 when they were laughed out of E-sports for think BDO was a balanced game was "We are aware that BDO isn't a balanced game and that some classes preform far better than others on multiple levels and in more scenarios. However, we have no interest at this time in balancing the game cause we are currently hard at work developing future content." (AKA making new classes to promote inventory slot sales and other character bound only items.) An that has been their stance on balancing this game since 2018 to now I can't see them fixing the issues pledging the PVP community anytime this year.

So when Crimson Desert comes out with a better more refined and improved PVE systems to BDO's I can't see this game surviving this year unless they some how completely fuck up Crimson Desert and it dead on arrival. But, hey maybe their plan is to kill BDO to make room for Crimson Desert, tbh I wouldn't be surprised sales for BDO cash shop have greatly decreased sense whales are now sitting at full PEN with nothing else to upgrade.

At least for NWs and Siege I can agree it's pretty dead. same caster meta makes for boring wars and with that not a lot of guilds take up warring. Would be nice if it was easier to accumulate nw ready guilds but getting gear takes time and getting geared players willing to to take a chance even longer. Although I'm not really sure what they could do to fix this I would like to see more exicting nws.

I say just make gearing less aids. Make it easier to hit Full PEN would greatly help the NW/Seige environment. Sense as it stands now a new player can't hope to ever be compeititive in NW or Siege unless they spend 1-2 years playing the game to catch up with the gear curve. Which let face it if someone coming into this game to PVP is an extremely discouraging grind wall. I know for a fact that I would never play a game in the hopes that I can PVP in the game after wasting 1-2 years of my life PVE grind not spot. But sadly this will never happen, it goes against PA business model of depressingly unrewarding progression to encourage cash shop sales for outfit melting.

Than the only other option would be to start capping GS on NW but than this makes gear irreverent which again discourages people to spend money on cash shop outfits and melt them to catch up with the gear curve which goes against PA's business model. Plus T1 cap NW it just emphasizes the major isses with class balance in the game sense some classes in T1 cap NWs are physically unplayable due to how their stats scale. An example is kuno sense kuno AP scaling is dogshit but accuracy scaling it decent, but in T1 cap NWs evasion is capped so low that it doesn't even matter thus it all about DR. But this goes completely against how kuno's stats work so she does zero damage to other players and also instantly dies sense she also scaled for evasion and not DR. An than you have Nova's who can just hold Q block forever and never die while their summons delete everything cause how stacked their DR scaling is, and how busted their summon damage is at those DR levels.

The end of the day the issue is PA doesn't want to sacrifice any source of income no matter how small it maybe to make actual in-game improvements this game depressedly needs.