some will argue lifeskills shouldnt be at top income levels per hour... I say, at 2k mastery being maxed out... why not?

being 2k mastery isnt easy to achieve... nor is getting the gear to get 500mil+ per hour.... for a game that is more about what makes the most per hour though, this is an issue IMO.... the game needs competitive income variety... not everyone wants to login and farm in a circle for hours, days, weeks or months on end... and if you can do this more power to you.... (btw if you dont build AP and PVE circle farm, youre looking at over a year+ difference in reaching your goals, if not longer for hardcapped) ap builds = quick death in pvp. my goal is to pvp. not circle farm ai, thats fucking boring repetition.

sidenote and sry in advanced this post is all over the place Im just spilling some of my thoughts...... I hate dying in bdo, whether its due to laggy desyncs, being to weak and dying in 1 combo, or just the common, oh I got cc'd 1 time in a group of people and its over for me, Ill now have to hit release, watcha  loading screen, run back.... etc etc.... that being said.. Im building pure DP, I dont care about killing other players, I just want to live, push the buttons, see the things happen and let my teammates kill as i just become a 'useless' cc bot with my DP build.... so now that you know Im going DP build, Ill let you know now, because of that, Im not going AP build... Im just lifeskilling instead. because i don't find it fun to farm in circles.. the only pve circle farm bore fest i do would have to includes exclusive drops, such as the infinite potion peice... so you maybe understand why Im a lifeskiller going dp....

the gap is continueing to widen as grinding gets caphras drop increases... and yet gathering and other lifeskills get neglected. gathering is less APM req for the moneys. I play a ninja... pve ninja APM or gathering APM?... keep in mind bdo is a game that takes years to get geared... so I dont wanna burnout my fingers doing things that aren't fun for me. I chose lifeskilling.

-gathering.

with gathering.... there is no chance for big ticket items, Ill never have a pri black disto drop, the highest item values come no where near what a pve circle farmer can pull...

with gathering.... you need energy, which got nerfed so you can do it less than in the past.....

with gathering.... you can spend, lets say 600-650 energy per hour... and lets say that's ~700 actual gathers, since sometimes a gather cost 0 energy. so with gathering you need to spend ~2 seconds to gather. this means you are spending 1400 seconds, or 23minutes worth of time wasted due to a gather animation....

with gathering... if you do 3 hours a day, you are wasting 1 hour or more on gathering time..... ( wtf, please lower or get rid of the time wasted on animations? )

with pve grinding, 3 hours... you can net 1.5billions or more.....

with gathering.... even at 2k mastery, this is impossible, youll get closer to 750m, half... and thats 2k maxed... people pull 500m+/hr without being maxed...

with gathering, you are capped on how much a day you can actually do.

with pve grinding... you have no cap

uhhg and the caps of preorder on things like meat with hundred of thousands of preorders, having hards/sharps capped on prices, just overall supression of possible profits

-fishing, has no manos tool. can anyone tell me how much a 2k fisher doesnt make for active fishing per hour at the best spot? I still want a manos fishing chair, https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=13569 a brandable repairable one. the lack of prize fishes, even if you were maxed out 2k fishing, seems out of date and too low... getting items like a 'bottle with a note' that leads you on a quest because you fished it up with a very low chance, really its just a waste of time for an extremely small prize. silver keys...wow.. gold chests..... would seem cool if it wasn't so out of date. wtf... the list goes on..

-hunting. has no manos tool. personally i never touched this one, wasn't interesting at all to me except if i reach a high maxed level and went sweaty pvp tryhard status in which i would need to hunt for house furniture buffs, since they rarely are listed

-cooking, has no manos tool. hitting 2k cook is tough. cooking imperials is what people look towards for profits with this one, and the imperial system still sucks, npc only buys X amount, because they are worried about inflation? yet grinding has no cap. im not askin' for unlimited turn-ins. Im just wanting to turn in my half cp amount daily, without any bullshit server swaps only to run into 0 guru boxes. ... it's a video game FFS... future meta should be, daily reset, grab all boxes, 1-trip, turn-in. done.

- reduce the box weight and allow players to hold up to ~300 boxes

- remove the amount of quantity the NPC will buy ( this is already limited by the players CP on their account )

- remove the refresh banner for imperial crafts per hour ( this is now, resets once per day )

-alchemy. I dont bother with it, most dont, they go for cooking. alch is limited in how much you can actually do it. I'd only bother if i was sweaty tryharding and needed pots that i couldnt buy from the market, or crafting certain mats my workers get. even then I don't bother, enjoy my savagerys...

-processing. profits just really aren't that great. even if your 2k mastery, and have g50 trading and box them up from grana and turn-in to val etc... I dunno

-training. I did it afor alittle long long ago before all the t9's.. its often the alternative to overnight fishing.. but for me, I started waking up to a horse just standing... i saw how its had p2w elements with horse breed resets... I hit arti 1 for auto-sprint and gave it up..

-trading no manos or tool, and mastery is half assed. but trading is getting a rework later this year. Im expecting a questline that no one asked for, wouldn't be suprised if they time gate for 1-3 months worth of effort, all I really want is relevant profits and manos / mastery for all lifeskills. only having 1 transport wagon... with limited space... almost seems impossible to transport materials even if transport was used non-stop ( your workers with triple pack will produced faster than you can send).... and the difference between like master2 and g50... really? it's not an interesting bump in pay at all

-farming, no manos or tool, half assed mastery perks. the new pit-a-pat moles are dogshit. you need to rng a giant mole, then rng the pit a pat event ( since i've had 1 giant mole spawn one and 1 giant mole that didn't ) and once you get both of those rng's you get 1 petal. you then need 10 petals.... and im guessing once you get all of these 10 petals, youll get a t1 pet. tldr you will never get  a t4 pit a pat unless you play for literally years. why are farms capped to 10 per account? why cant this be capped based on CP?

if I have 300 cp why can't I just have 30 farms? lame. profits for time is ok though.. could be better but you know....

-sailing, i haven't done it in years it feels, but when I did, it pissed me off that if you were sailing closer to mainland, you didnt get sailing exp, you had to sail in deep ocean waters to get exp... that was fucked up, its like oh.. you aren't sailing.. you get no exp... and even if you did, or do now... it still would take a really long time before you hit high levels, g50 sailing? forget it. you better get sailing exp if your in a  boat sailing. if not, i feel for all those players doing the activity only to get bent over

-bartering. no manos, and is the mastery even good? Im not sure.. It didnt have my interest, partially because If I did it, I would have to get a carrack. which im not interested in 1-3 months grind, for this. knowing the sailing exp was bugged, but yet it ties in with ship speed, its needed for min max. I also viewed it as... if i learned all the routes and systems, what was a good value to turn in crow coins etc, If I learned that... then quit or stopped doing it, then went back to it. I wouldn't be certain what i was doing is the best values for my items... though bartering does sounds like decent semi afk money once you get it all setup

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sry for the rant, the typos, the bad formatting, etc etc, if you read any or all of this, and if you know the game.... then you know... and Im not talking about the amount of time or money needed to reach the highest levels.

Im just stating the fact that a maxed lifeskiller, even if your account was maxed on all of them.. will never make anywhere close to a max pve npc ai killer. why?

the variety is important to keep players interested is it not?

Please PA,

....HELP~!!

Trading rework will surely help/boost a lot of actual lifeskill.

Just be patient ^^. Pearl Abyss cannot do 2 things at the same time.

Pointless to be negative or shout the Apocalypse.



BDO has always had a phase where for the progression it is better to do X .  keep doing what you love, one day it will pay off ^^.


I was a full time lifeskiller. now I mix my activities. and in fact I am having more fun as well.

Lifeskilling is only here, so they can boast about "we also have this".

But that was never intendeed to be a main way to make money. This is a korean grinder, you supposed to grind. Everything else is second class activity, with scond class  rewards.

I don't think they gonna change it soon.

IDK which is the more pathetic. The fact that the situation in KR is so bad the people now raging in groups, or the fact, that the devs keep speaking BS and nonsense instead of doing a mere 5minute work to fix what their costumers pissed about since years...

No wonder why Lost Ark beat hard bdo in KR, it's just pathetic.

You are the pathetic to compare bdo with Lost ark. There is no rage group or anything. it's like here 3-4 crybaby Careabear pve who whines like Mademoiselle while they don't even play the game. the KR's whiner are no different from here. There are PlasticDK vomitizer on the KR forums too.
You are not a customer. You are squatters.


Lost ark is a traditional Themepark mmo  Daily quest/raid based. Boring gameplay( Already ultra redundant just after a hundred hours.), boring 6 pl raid, no character progression. You play alone for 200 hours like  damned j-rpg during the boring leveling, that you can do 100% solo including dungeon.
It is an all public game whereas BDO is not.  You might as well compare BDO to Fortnite as much as you can.

So go play a little on the Russian version for get a unbiaised view of the game.
Lost ark is literally a mobile game on PC, perfect game for the PC Bang business where 95% of all KR play., and its mobile version is coming.