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Let's ACTUALLY talk about Awakened Sage Changes. (From the perspective of a day one sage lover)
Aug 14, 2021, 22:24 (UTC)
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# 1
First of all, I'm ready for hate on this post. Its a post from a player who's played and enjoyed sage since day 1 on a platform who's vocal majority hates sage. So it's whatever


             It feels as though this community uses the games various feedback system's in a sort of spiteful, petty way in order to make other people feel bad and punish them for playing "X strong class" instead of using it for the purpose of bringing a class in line or to give other classes a helping hand. By this I mean the general thought shared among the majority of posts both here and on reddit isn't "let's help bad classes get better changes and buffs. While gently bringing op classes in line without debilitating them" Instead its "let's get whatever class is deemed strong nerfed as hard as possible so that they're just as bad or worse as x class is currently and people lose their interest in playing the class."

With this being said, I do agree sage needs nerfs. But the nerfs he's planned to receive? No, not only do they drastically change his core gameplay for the 4th or so time since his release, but there are better changes that actually make sense and target what makes the class strong. The crit changes on LP are whatever, but changing his main source of damage avoidance "bolt iframe" into an SA without giving him any other sort of damage mitigation whatsoever is just kinda laughable. Especially with how absurdly squishy even a 400+ dp sage is, and especially when there are other changes that can bring him in line without changing a large part of the classes core mechanics and game play for the 3rd or 4th time since his release. (Also, rip to all ash forest sages if our bolt gets changed to an SA.)


Whether you believe he is the most broken thing on earth or not, surely you can understand how disheartening it is to have the class you fell in love with constantly receive huge gameplay and core mechanic changes constantly. 

Since I might get called out for saying all this yet not giving better ideas for nerfs, ill do that now:

First, we keep the crit damage change on Lightning Prison. The skill was really strong and removing its 100% crit is fine. Pretty okay change.

Second, we make bolt (our Iframe) fully visible the entire time but instead of changing it from an iframe to an SA, it stays an iframe. This way us sages still have a way to avoid damage both (PvP and PvE) to our frail, nimble boned bodies while also giving players fighting against sage a far easier time tracking and catching him.

Lastly, to further address sages huge amount of damage we look at what ACTUALLY gives him the ability to dish out an absurd amount of damage no matter the scenario. This being his insane amount of accuracy that he gets for free in his kit. He currently has so much accuracy, that going any sort of accuracy gear whatsoever (including crystals) is seen as a waste of time, and its better to just go full human damage and ap accessories. So if we were to lessen the amount of accuracy he receives from his skills and buffs, it'd force sages to have to gear according to their match up instead of having a one kit fits all fight scenarios type of thing that he has going on right now. It'd also lessen his overall damage potential by a pretty decent margin in general which would bring him closer in line with other classes. No longer would he be able to one combo every class build in the game without any real specific gear requirements besides AP. 

I could go deeper into more change ideas I have, but honestly I think these three are enough. They both allow sage players to keep the same play style they fell in love with, makes sages more visible which gives players the ability to learn how to catch and fight against him, as well as it addresses his currently pretty insane amount of damage potential.

Is this post biased? Obviously.

But it still needed to be said I guess.


ALSO!!!, PLEASEjust leave poor succession sage players alone. They ain't hurting anybody anymore man (for the most part.....),


let them keep their pve prowess. No need to kick them while they're down just because big brother awakening sage is getting the nerf belt again.
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Last Edit : Aug 14, 2021, 22:37 (UTC)
# 3
On: Aug 14, 2021, 22:33 (UTC), Written by Franklins

I disagree, I think they  need to be nerfed harder, Sages need to be nerfed as hard as they hit now.

 

Also Sage's biggest problem is not the I-frame, it's not the damage, it's not the accuracy.  It's the ability to cast THROUGH fort walls.  No class should be able to do damage on the other side of the LoS, but here we have sages that bug abuse to do damage.

Yeeaaaaaaaaaaah, the through fort walls thing is an obvious problem. Although I didn't mention it because I assumed everyone already understood it as being a bug and not an intended feature. 

But this idea; 

"I think they  need to be nerfed harder, Sages need to be nerfed as hard as they hit now."
Just damages the community. It's all fun and games until it's your class that's up next for nerfs y'know.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2021, 22:45 (UTC)
# 4

The changes are good, we see if they are enough or not.

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Last Edit : Aug 14, 2021, 23:07 (UTC)
# 6

I disagree with the fact that you write Sage's iframe needs to be visible. It should stay just like it is... If Sorc/Hash/Ninja still exist with their disgusting iframes, why should another iframe class suffer? Either remove the iframe mechanic completely from all classes, and just make it an invincible frame not invisible frame or just keep it as it is - I don't understand the logic of completely DESTROYING a class the way they are doing right now.
Sage needs to be nerfed Damage/Acc wise, not in his core playstyle.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2021, 23:25 (UTC)
# 7
On: Aug 14, 2021, 22:56 (UTC), Written by Franklins

They are not nerfs they are bringing Sage to a more reasonable power level, Sages are vastly over tuned, and buffing up everyone else would be worse for BDO, so the logical solution is to balance Sage.  

Saying the changes are fine is easy if you don't actually play the class or know what the changes actually mean for it.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2021, 23:35 (UTC)
# 8
On: Aug 14, 2021, 22:45 (UTC), Written by PlasticDK

The changes are good, we see if they are enough or not.

I can't help but feel like this is a little disingenuous honestly. 

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2021, 23:46 (UTC)
# 9

This entire post is ignorant to the fact that other classes have gone through this process too.

 

Many have been brutalized.

 

Sage will not be spared. 

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2021, 23:48 (UTC)
# 10
On: Aug 14, 2021, 23:46 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

This entire post is ignorant to the fact that other classes have gone through this process too.

 

Many have been brutalized.

 

Sage will not be spared. 

I think you're blatantly ignoring the point. Your mentality is the reason it continues to happen, and the reason classes it's happened to stay the way they are currently.

 

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