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Some ideas that I think it could improve the class (And a bit of vent/cry xD)
Aug 17, 2021, 05:40 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Aug 17, 2021, 06:21 (UTC)
# 1

Hello :) I recently realised that this forum even existed ... yea I know silly me xD and I wanted to contribute a bit about this class I've been maining her since release (Yea I'm one of the crazy people that mains her :P) and i think I can help with some information; probably some of the topics have already been discussed but I'm not very up to date with the forum or the shai discord really. I'll just leave this here to be completely ignored and I'll move on silently.

First of all I want to clarify that even if i don't stop saying bad things about the class It's a class that I enjoy playing I'm not a very competitive person I don't care about killing other players and I don't get any satisfaction out if it (In most cases xD) and I like to play support characters in games and do stuff in a group and Shai is good for that and It's a pretty chill class too although I think is half baked class.

 Here I leave some of the changes that I have thought of. There are some of them that they should be easy to fix but who I’m kidding nothing will happen.

 

                 -SHE NEEDS A DASH XD: Yes she needs a middle range dash forward (half of what warrior or guardian are able to do at least) and the dash should make her faster have a reasonable cooldown, invincibility or super armor and it should flow nicely with the rest of her skills. Currently shai is like very old car in a formula 1 race she simply can't keep up she can't engage a combat doesn't have a chance to escape either she's too slow in a game where everyone moves like Flash honestly I can't understand how the game can withstand like 30 to who knows how many people dashing like that at the same time I personally have problems to follow my own allies and give them buffs this is how bad it is.

                  -She needs a skill with invincibility that she can use whenever she wants: Right now the only skills she has with invincibility are Hop and Play Dead skills, since she use Hop constantly as her main way of moving around and the invincible option is only available one every 3 seconds  you can't really choose when you get the invincibility and Play dead has a very high cooldown to be counted and lowering that cooldown wouldn't be a good idea. I think she should get at least Invincibility in one of her usual skills (Twirl-Three for example) or get a new skill that has it (maybe the dash i mention before) as a way for her to dodge, it doesn't need to be a very long one just a small invincibility she can choose when to use.

                 -She needs aoe skill or an increase in her drum skill damage in pve: Currently shai lacks a lot of damage in pve (She's not only cursed with no being able to duel but she doesn't grind well either to the point she almost gets half the trashloot than other classes  unless party spots of course xD) part of it is because since succession release, all classes got a damage % out of his awakening weapon and awakening get damage out of his main weapon ... Shai is like an awakening class that does damage with her preawakening so she doesn't get that damage increased. It is true that part of her main weapon damage goes to the talent but her drum skills that are the ones that should do that damage do barely any. They are useless for grinding. I suggest giving her a damage increase in those skills since she needs more damage in area and those skills have the area.

                  -Hop-Three after buffs/debuffs and drum skills: This is a thing it was added at some point since Shai didn't have a way to transition from talent to preawakening reliably while using any of the instruments which made her very clunky and basically a sitting duck in any pvp encounter so with this skill you could transition and do it with a frontal guard which is great, the problem is that this never worked properly since the beginning, if you don't use the skill instantly after using the instrument it doesn't go off and what is worse it starts an animation where she throws the instrument upwards leaving her even more exposed. It is even worse while using the we're gonna win skill ... pleaseee this needs a fix for a long time.

                   -The weird animation after using any instrument: Every time you left click or wait until the shai completes playing the song she does an animation that leaves her totally vulnerable to anything and she can't move is like she's under a cc and it's horrible this animation should be cancelable at any moment by using a skill or by simply moving.

                    -Over here skill (The bubble): This skill doesn't work properly since release once used and a player  goes into it it should feel like a wall but instead people gets teleported back from inside and outside the bubble like they are laggy or something and it gets very confusing for enemies and allies alike (honestly it's a mess) on top of that attack speed buffs and debuffs affect this skill creating instances where you are stuck with the skill but you're not being protected at all or instances where the bubble disappears but you're still inside it even if you don't see it. I also think that allies should be able to move in and out of this bubble freely in case you mess up while using it and don't leave allies in a compromised situation or at least you should be able to cancel the skill whenever you want(The only way I know to do this is using V).

                     -We're gonna win skill: I liked this skill when it got released but it isn't viable to use even if you can move while using the drums while in this stance the shai feels even more clunkier than without it in part because Hop-three doesn't work while using it I think the only way to make this skill viable is by being able to switch in and out instantly into this stance after pressing the hotkey and ignoring the drum animation she does now.

                      -Play dead skill: I think this skill needs to be able to cancel any skill you're doing at the moment you use it; flute, drums, bubble whatever the moment you press the skill she should instantly play dead I even dare to say that the skill should be able to be used in the middle of a cc (being the exception grab and freeze) having into account the class hasn't a lot of ways to defend herself.

                      -Duels? ...: Everyone knows that this class isn't viable for duels is not like she's weak she doesn't even stand a chance in a duel against the next weakest class in duel whoever that class is, it makes sense she's a support after all but in this game you need to duel to defend a spot a lot and she basically when under that condition generally loses the spot or just leaves (This is basically the main reason barely any main shais make it into endgame without rerolling or outright leaving the game on top of that since everyone knows about it she gets dueled way more than any other class making her imposible to grind certain spots at certain hours or days for example try to go with a shai to bloody monastery, orcs, star's end ... on weekend you'll get ask for a duel once every 10 minutes it's just impossible). I suppose the ideal would be giving her a succession without her support capabilities but able to defend the spot and grind decently but since that will never happen maybe a new skill could be made that gives a 1 hour buff she could trade for a spot something like "eh dfs ... ok if you leave me the spot i'll give you a buff or something like that".

                      - Tagging system :(..: Well out of all the classes in the game for some reason main shais gets the most punished out of them (Even more if you do lifeskill with her which would be pretty common for the class "imperials, trade and fishing and all that") even though Shais are the class that would have more motivation to tag than any other main class since the class is pretty unbalanced in certain areas. (Honestly i don't want to even get started with her artina sol, no blackstar, not able to put carphras on it and forced to get it in Pen by enhancing it  issue).

                      - Gathering movement speed: This is more of a whim than a real problem but since the class is pretty slow I think it would be nice if she gets a like a 10% movement speed for 5 seconds buff or something like that every time she gathers something I also think it would be something suitable for the class.

 

And that would be all that I could think of, sorry for the long boring text I put this post as a way to vent a little in a way. Oh and sorry if my English isn't very good. I think it is good enough to transmit what I wanted to say, at least I hope so.

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Last Edit : Aug 23, 2021, 10:11 (UTC)
# 2

Yes she needs a rework.

Last Edit : Aug 23, 2021, 13:46 (UTC)
# 3

+1

 

This would be among the 1000's other requests to get shai made into a full class. 

 

PA, just make her complete already....

Last Edit : Aug 24, 2021, 19:06 (UTC)
# 4

The class feels neglected and community ignored by the actual devs (not the GM's and Public faces) but I liked the post. Wake me when the community cares enough to take serious action.

This was hidden by admin due to the reports it has received.
Last Edit : Sep 10, 2021, 19:46 (UTC)
# 6

?1

 

btw OP:

 

your records are impressive, kudos man. 

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