I don't like the fps=dps thing but pre awa swaps in your kit is not a bad thing. You need a lot more skillpoints to unlock your whole kit and see its advantages. 

You are acting like the swap animation is so long that it would break the combos. Its practically the fastes move in the kit. Simply hit C then do whatever combo you want in whatever stance you want.

Imagine the advantage of having more skills per stance= more skill points, plus the ability to execute any of them by simply hitting C before.

For all you know this is exactly what they are doing. Are you going to argue on the forums for them to change it back if that is the case?

What's faster: doing the skill directly or pressing C and then doing it? Swapping into awakening is protected but swapping into pre awakening is not protected and very risky if the only way to do it is by C.

If the skill you intend to do next is an awakening skill. What if its not?

You are not taking into accout having to autoswap back.

Lets take Lahn for example since someone mentioned it above. What happens if right after you hit that autoswap to pre awakening you are forced to dodge instead of doing your followup? How much faster is it now?

I can simplify it even more so you can understand why you are wrong. Compare the time it would take you to swap and then swap back if that was your only goal (go ahead and try it ingame)..hitting C twice vs whatever the two fastest autoswaping skills on any kit are. Go ahead ill wait.

This is nuance for the devs to work out. Its of no concern to this conversation.

This post has me kinda baffled; why would you ever use a skill that moves you to another stance, without wanting to be in that stance?

If you're saying "gee I wish I could never have to worry about the two stances and use all my skills" well, good luck mapping that out across our current keybinds. 

And if you say anything even close to "do it like succession", that's just yikes. Succession already heavily limited/dumbed down some of the classes. To do that to awakening would be terrible.

Actually I'm thinking he want's to be in awa mode all the time, but some skills are switching it back to mainhand, and this even on some dodge skills. 
I admit it's pretty annoying if the class always switching back if dodging for example.
But I believe it's true you can lock it. 


MUCH MORE I rather recomment to let us have succ and Awa both at the same time and adjust it a bit...
- Because honestly, if choosing Awa, the mainhand skills are pretty useless, maybe of some classes for stun or grab, but the damage or somteimes as filler if all awa skills are in cooldown, effectiveness is also only the half of the awa- so said you can most likely only play with awa to have the most dps and being most effective...
- Or choose succession (for more than a half of classes even better because it's the same damage output but double as fast), and you loose even more than half of your skills: All awa skills + 4 rage skills compared to only 2 new skills in succ, PLUS not every skill is even using the succession bonus...

In my opinion it's extremely terrible developed, the awa and the succession equal.
No wonder it's soo broken.

As for my mainclass it's even the most worse... Awa animation are by far too long and half of them can't be even cancled, but not having any single protection. It would be totally stupid to use awa while on succ the mobillity even increases more then she already have, and the skills are dealing hell of damage by just half or even less then half of the time.

Rather then removing skills that swap between main/awakening they should just make it smoother to c swap...

Honestly moet classes (even the new ones) C swap animation is clunky as hell. 

Using skills. Because most of them have a movement element as well. And even if they don't at least they can be protected and they can inflict CC. Standing still and pressing C is a death sentence. You're basically inviting people to come grab you. 

If he has an available grab.

Successfully baiting a grab changes a lot of things, and some C swaps are protected. 

Who said anything about standing still? Did you read my second post?

I see a few  posters getting hung up on nuance like protections and CCs and whatnot. My proposal would essentially be a complete overhaul, Which is exactly what they are doing.

When the reboots go LIVE all the protections, CCs and even mobility moves will potentially be completely diffrent, so dont get hung up on things like that.

I am stricly talking the ability to swap weapon stances manually (as part of a combo, smooth seamless etc..) instead of reliying on a specific move from each stance which is what we have now. How it is implemented stats wise would be upto whatever the Devs idea of "balance" is as long as it is there.

To bottom line it for the people who are confused;  

All I am proposing is that instead of havning to open your skill tree, hit reset skills and then choose Succesion or Awakening, you can simply hit C+ any direction giving you a fast cheap attack /linker that swaps not just your weapon but entire skill tree/stance.