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[Great Marni´s Stone] Marni's Research Box - Rework the rewards!
Sep 5, 2021, 13:38 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Sep 5, 2021, 14:18 (UTC)
# 1

As the title says - I highly suggest you to rework the rewards of the Great Marni´s Stone!

 

Little Info on Great Marni´s Stone and it´s rewards prior to now:

Patch Notes - May 8th 2019

A new item, Marni's Supply Box, has been added. When you open the box, you will randomly get one of the following items.

  • Tungrad Belt
  • Tungrad Earring
  • Ogre Ring
  • Laytenn’s Power Stone
  • Eye of the Ruins Ring
  • Valtarra Eclipsed Belt
  • Orkinrad's Belt
  • Basilisk's Belt
  • Narc Ear Accessory
  • Ring of Crescent Guardian

Source: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/582660/view/4549154898511374164

Great Marni´s Stones require usually around 50.000-60.000 monster kills in the specific zones, which is (if you are good), done in 24 hours, if you do 2.000-3.000 kills per hour.

Probably nobody is doing that effort in one day on 24 hours, and will instead split that up in one or more weeks, of each day 2 hour sessions or similar. 

 

It has been now more than 2 years, since you released the Great Marni´s Stone. In this 2 years, there has been enormus changes and improvements to the game, including certain possiblities added to enhance the gear of the characters, to increase the AP/DP, etc.

 

With the increased AP/DP, we also have now a much faster pace on gaining silver at grinding in monster hunting zones and many people also gain a decent amount of silver through lifeskilling. Additionally to that, we thankfully receive plenty of free monthly rewards and more from you.

All of that combined points out, that the amount of silver we gained is very fast nowadays, once you get into the game and know how certain mechanics work. With this amount of silver which is gained by many people in hundreds of millions per hour or even a few billions in a day, we can buy easily some of the accessories twice/trice or more often and can enhance them with a small amount of work and luck to a higher grade version of the accessories.

 

That makes it in the end pointless to hunt/grind serveral days in so called low-monster-zones, for the reward given of a "Great Marni´s Stone". A marni-stone which is rarely obtained from monsters on several monster-zones who drop the Marni´s Research Boxes.

 

So to this, i see it as definitely the majority of other players to have no reason to grind for that great marni stone, which only gives you a level 0 (zero) accessory of the following accessories stated above.

Not even to mention, the amount of hours and days wasted when doing the great marni stone.

Instead the suffering person who is doing the great marni stone, could gain probably 1bil. silver or more than 2bil. silver on "medium-high"-tier grind-ones, like Mirumoks, Manshaum, Stars-End, Thornwood Forest, or similar, and/or also gain that 1bil.-2bil. silver through Guru-Lifeskilling in 1-2 days.

So the time spend on the marni stone in the mostly "low"-tier grind-zones gives roughly the half amount of silver, if not even less. Not to forget, the loss of silver, what you could have gained, when using your normal "med-high"-tier spots or your lifeskills.

 

To come now to the point:

A reward of a level 0 accessory from achieving the requirements of the great marni stone, comes close to an subtil insult for me as a player. I felt trolled with that and just like someone who got stolen a few days of grind worth 2 billion silver. Great marni reward accessory level 0 - worth 10mil. - 50mil. silver is a very bad joke... 

 

- I expect you to replace the rewards to same accessories with at least each of them to TRI versions, and NOT one single level-0 version!

- I want to see a 100% chance of those rewards of receiving a min. TRI accessory, if not, even some of those a min. TET level (example Orkinrad Belt TET - worth 2.4bil, Basilisk Belt TRI - worth 850mil.), compared to their silver amount.

- The accessory rewards, need to be at least worth 700mil.-1.5bil silver or more (NOT LESS THAN THAT)

 

Other important reasons to rework the rewards of this Great Marni´s Stone:
- very rare drop-rate of Marni´s Research Box (no exploits possible, and the market prices would stay anyways as they are right now due to the rarity of the drop rates)

- increased player competition in less played monster-zones

- players are more motivated or have a higher reason, to also stay longer/permanently in more remote locations of the BDO-world, so the community is not only centered around Heidel/Calpheon

 

 

 

My personal thanks for some suggestions in this topic go to:

(FAMILYNAME) QQforRNG

(FAMILYNAME) TrueDeath

Last Edit : Sep 5, 2021, 15:29 (UTC)
# 2

A "free" TRI accessory for killing 40k mobs (as requied by the Marni Stone for Roud Sulfur Mines) would be quite ridiculous and would probably have quite the impact on the game's economy, especially seeing as grinding is already the best (as far as I know) silver/hour.

For example, as it stands, the value of the trash loot from that area is very low, don't have any on me but if memory serves, around 1.5k each trash item, mobs dropping between 1 and 9 (9 being with blue loot scroll and Agris).
Now,  giving you a free TRI accessory (like a Ring of Crescent Guardian, valued at roughly 1 billion) would boost the value of every single mob by 25k silver flat out.
1'000'000'000 / 40'000 = 25'000

As a Shai, I can easily kill over 2k mobs in an hour (I'd say 2.5k if I avoid goofing around), increasing hourly income by 62.5 million and, like I said, I'm a Shai.
As a side note, the worst item you can get (if memory serves) is Orkinrad's Belt and the TRI version of that goes for roughly 0.5b, meaning you'd cut above silver/h in half.
Granted, such a massive buff would have a larger silver/hour impact (in % increased) on low AP zones than high AP I guess but it still seem way over the top and a rather unnecessary buff to something that's already quite profitable.

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2021, 00:58 (UTC)
# 3
On: Sep 5, 2021, 15:29 (UTC), Written by Bubblebell

A "free" TRI accessory for killing 40k mobs (as requied by the Marni Stone for Roud Sulfur Mines) would be quite ridiculous and would probably have quite the impact on the game's economy, especially seeing as grinding is already the best (as far as I know) silver/hour.

For example, as it stands, the value of the trash loot from that area is very low, don't have any on me but if memory serves, around 1.5k each trash item, mobs dropping between 1 and 9 (9 being with blue loot scroll and Agris).
Now,  giving you a free TRI accessory (like a Ring of Crescent Guardian, valued at roughly 1 billion) would boost the value of every single mob by 25k silver flat out.
1'000'000'000 / 40'000 = 25'000

As a Shai, I can easily kill over 2k mobs in an hour (I'd say 2.5k if I avoid goofing around), increasing hourly income by 62.5 million and, like I said, I'm a Shai.
As a side note, the worst item you can get (if memory serves) is Orkinrad's Belt and the TRI version of that goes for roughly 0.5b, meaning you'd cut above silver/h in half.
Granted, such a massive buff would have a larger silver/hour impact (in % increased) on low AP zones than high AP I guess but it still seem way over the top and a rather unnecessary buff to something that's already quite profitable.

Thing is, at this age people are making 300-600m an hour. You can definitely keep your extra 65m per hr, cos from what i remember those areas are like 30m per hour zone? Some pathetic number iirc. So in the end you get like 150ish mil per hr? Seems reasonable to give ppl something to go for in the trash zones

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2021, 09:42 (UTC)
# 4
On: Sep 5, 2021, 15:29 (UTC), Written by Bubblebell

A "free" TRI accessory for killing 40k mobs (as requied by the Marni Stone for Roud Sulfur Mines) would be quite ridiculous and would probably have quite the impact on the game's economy, especially seeing as grinding is already the best (as far as I know) silver/hour.

For example, as it stands, the value of the trash loot from that area is very low, don't have any on me but if memory serves, around 1.5k each trash item, mobs dropping between 1 and 9 (9 being with blue loot scroll and Agris).
Now,  giving you a free TRI accessory (like a Ring of Crescent Guardian, valued at roughly 1 billion) would boost the value of every single mob by 25k silver flat out.
1'000'000'000 / 40'000 = 25'000

As a Shai, I can easily kill over 2k mobs in an hour (I'd say 2.5k if I avoid goofing around), increasing hourly income by 62.5 million and, like I said, I'm a Shai.
As a side note, the worst item you can get (if memory serves) is Orkinrad's Belt and the TRI version of that goes for roughly 0.5b, meaning you'd cut above silver/h in half.
Granted, such a massive buff would have a larger silver/hour impact (in % increased) on low AP zones than high AP I guess but it still seem way over the top and a rather unnecessary buff to something that's already quite profitable.

On which part it would make an impact on the economy, if the great marni stones are already very very rare?

 

Usually people would either enhance the accessories of them further to TET versions, if they are able to do so, or they are going to sell them, and other people would try to enhance them.

In both cases you have to expect to have those lets say "TRI"-accessories destroyed again anyways.

 

And your statement shows, that you are not even interested to make your own game or your own time make more profit from it for yourself...

instead you rather defend a long outdated "Great Marni´s Stone" which nowadays nobody doesn´t even care anymore. While probably 75% of the whole playerbase instantly throws those "CRAP"-Stones away, because it is simply a waste of time to grind for those rewards. Nobody will waste his/her valuable time for something like that, if he/she knows, that he/she can earn way more silver on the usual way they are used to do. Hence nobody will also waste the time on that, while knowing, they are going to make a big loss, if they are used already to grind in their "med-high"-tier spots or their usual life-skill-routine.

 

You should really think smarter, especially also for the lifeskillers this reward-rework will also benefit for them, since they can get a little more profit additionaly from that and gives them also a little variety to their lifeskills, while they don´t need to always worry on thinking about to get killed by other players on higher spots, who are used to PVP or something else, so most lifeskillers want to avoid those hardcore grind-spots or high-level areas like: Stars-end, Manshaum, Mirumok, whole odyllita, and especially Hadum/Elvia..

So for them a increasement on the great marni reward would motivate them to go on those low-spots, and they have easy time on grinding mobs there, plus they can get a nice reward afterwards, and they can upgrade their maybe mostly not so good gearsets to make it at least also a little easier to compete on spots with rare resources for lifeskilling items. 

Aside of that mentioned, it will be especially also a very nice reward for new players who have a hard time to get a little bit competeable gear sets together. 

 

I mean if you wanna stay in the game in the year 2019, do it, but i am totally against that and don´t see any comprehensible reason to not rework the rewards there.

 

You should also not forget that every single one of us, got already a very free DUO-accessory around 2 months ago, which can be easily crafted to TRI for most of us. So where is the point of not giving that great marni stone reward on TRI too? 

 

And not to forget the atoraxxion rewards.. i just cite a fellow discord member where i am in a streamers discord - the guy called "Chaos" mentioned following: "Well. Imo the least you should get is a pri and pretty okay rates for a duo. Like lets say 10 or 20% like. The dungeon for example. Its also very likely you get pri accessories from there. Why not for something that takes 10x more time to complete? (Marni stone). The dungeon takes like 40min and you got urself a pri accessory and maybe even a vaha's dawn earring which will result in like an easy 500mil from doing jackshit" so to say, he is definitely on a point with that. Especially when you see you get (if you are lucky enough) a Vaha´s Dawn Earring worth 500mil, for the work of 40min-1 hour.. plus not to forget the plenty other rewards there.

 

Where is the logic of yours with the great marni reward to not give a better reward from it, while grinding for that bull*hit stone for a week.. I mean i honestly doubt it, that it will make a economic impact..
If that would be like that, than the atoraxxion rewards and all other free monthly rewards, etc. would already messed up the games economy since months.. think about it, what you want to keep outdated with your lifeskill char.. 

 

And again i don´t see any big negative impact on the game as it is right now, i see it will bring positive new air into it, more players on remote places grinding on lower zones, especially for the lifeskillers and new players..

# people will see more bugs, problems whatsoever on those remote regions, so the devs has also a more detailed feedback on those regions and not only the massively played regions Heidel/Calpheon/Velia and similar centered..

# people will have more diversity, when not being always on one place, because only the one place around Heidel or Kamasylvia is the most attractive prior to now..

# and it will also further balance the whole games environment, since the playerbase is a little more spread out, and not only centered in the central maps locations.. 

 

If you are so worried on the games economy than at least support the reward to get reworked to a estimated amount of 500mil. silver, which is for most the stated accessories there a DUO version. The worst accessory in terms of silver gain Orkinrad Belt could be as only accessory to be a TRI version. 

Last Edit : Sep 6, 2021, 21:44 (UTC)
# 5

I got one of those for polly forrest. It's like the reverse potion piece. You never want it but the game trolls you with it. 

Last Edit : Sep 7, 2021, 18:59 (UTC)
# 6
On: Sep 6, 2021, 21:44 (UTC), Written by Findubar

I got one of those for polly forrest. It's like the reverse potion piece. You never want it but the game trolls you with it. 

another reason for you, to grind great marni stones, when getting accessories of min. DUO and TRI orkingrad, what do you think? no more trolling

Last Edit : Sep 8, 2021, 13:00 (UTC)
# 7

REWORK THE GREAT MARNI.. FREE PEN! :P 

Last Edit : Sep 8, 2021, 19:42 (UTC)
# 8
On: Sep 6, 2021, 21:44 (UTC), Written by Findubar

I got one of those for polly forrest. It's like the reverse potion piece. You never want it but the game trolls you with it. 

 

 

I was gunna post:

 

"the great marni boxes are not for anything other than collecting"

Last Edit : Sep 8, 2021, 20:08 (UTC)
# 9
On: Sep 8, 2021, 19:42 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

 

 

I was gunna post:

 

"the great marni boxes are not for anything other than collecting"

xD sadly remembers me now about people making funny with racoon collections xD hahaha

 

but i honestly mean it very honest and pretty serious, please rework that great marni crap.. it only costs u a few minutes of coding only to replace the levels on the accessories, and all players are more happy on grinding for great marni stones.. at least DOU :P including TRI orkinrad :) 

Last Edit : Sep 11, 2021, 17:13 (UTC)
# 10
On: Sep 8, 2021, 19:42 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

 

 

I was gunna post:

 

"the great marni boxes are not for anything other than collecting"

Rofl :D:D

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