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Rare Items
Mar 1, 2021, 12:36 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Mar 1, 2021, 12:36 (UTC)
# 1

Hello Devs/PA

Welcome to EU/NA as self-publisher, now that PA is the one who publishes the game to our regions, I hope our voice can be heard! I hope/wish to see rework for Rare items, like Compass/Map/Infinite Pots, an alternative way to obtain, a mechanic that already exists in-game with La Orzeca costume. I am from last June 2020 grinding at Manshaums for the last piece of Infinite pot MP with 0 success, yesterday even from early morning till evening was grinding with fully buffed, kama/2FA/Ls/etc still nothing! My question is, it was so difficult to code second mob not only Shamans? The game is already heavily RNG-based why not try to minimize it?  I am not expecting from killing the 1st pack of mobs and obtain the piece but from my experience being at Manshaums so long, I have seen people obtaining with 1st kill and people like me grinding 10000h with 0 success, same goes for everything in-game Enhancement/progress, people with 1st try getting Pen and others at 100th try! From day one that you started self-publishing, every 2 hours you spam in-game about your Twitch Drops because you and we know the power Twitch has, see what happen to Among-Us last year! People will come but when they hit your RNG wall they are gonna quit, if Casinos were most loved, trust me in every corner there would be one Casino in the world but it's NOT! How I am gonna recommend to my friends (yes me and my friends we love games and we play games) and people around me when I am playing already 1y and a half and having bad time, games are supposed to be fun that's why they are called games, not like second work! The best advertisement is by people to other people. Your Twitch viewership barely passes 20k, who is gonna watch streamers killing brain-dead mobs 24/7, people love to watch action/PVP! Go see yourself games being popular on Twitch are PvP games with less RNG involved. I am not gonna speak even about your P2W aspect of the game! I would love to support more by buying cosmetics(I have spent over 2k $ in other games for their cosmetics and support them) but I won't! Because the game is beautiful but with an ugly personality!  Sorry for the long post, just wanted to share my thoughts as a player of your game! 

 

Best Regards

MamoruKin

Last Edit : Mar 1, 2021, 13:15 (UTC)
# 2

Hey there!

 

There's a few things in here that I can agree with you, and regarding this part:  "hope/wish to see rework for Rare items, like Compass/Map/Infinite Pots" - they spoke about this on their last CALPHE:ON if I'm not mistaken, and they revealed that they have no intention in changing that. A treasure is just that. A treasure. If you don't want to spend hours grinding for a treasure, it's best if you don't! Those things are usually more in tune with those that have had tons of progress in the game already!

 

Now, regarding the money aspects and whatnot, I think that this is a very touchy subject when it comes to company politics and etc. I do not think there are enough players speaking out about the prices being overly exaggerated. Most players, usually use the discounts as an excuse for us to buy things. That's not a reason not to lower general prices, though.

 

Regarding the enhacement, the developers also said that they have no present will to modify it. Enhacement will stay as it is, but they will continue to improve and add features, to make it easier to get into enhacement itself.

 

Regardless of anything, I do hope that PA will listen more carefully to us. There are some aspects of the game that really need to change, and I think now's the right time to do so.

 

PA might be a Korean company, that crated a Korean game to a Korean audience, but the West works differentely, and I believe that as a company, it's okay to be smart and flexible. If our game (EU/NA) is a bit different from the Korean one, but if it satisfies clients (we, players), then it's a win-win situation.

 

Happy adventuring!

 

Cheers!

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Gyush
Last Edit : Mar 1, 2021, 13:28 (UTC)
# 3

 

 

PA might be a Korean company, that crated a Korean game to a Korean audience, but the West works differentely, and I believe that as a company, it's okay to be smart and flexible. If our game (EU/NA) is a bit different from the Korean one, but if it satisfies clients (we, players), then it's a win-win situation.

 

 

 

many games adjust by audience and region, i don't know whats the mentality for Korean gamers but in west we tent to play games for fun! By implementing an alternative way to obtain its still Rare item, i didnt said, i am expecting to obtain by killing 1st pack of mobs but just have progress like La Orzeca outfit, obtain 100piece to trade for 1 etc 

Last Edit : Mar 1, 2021, 13:31 (UTC)
# 4

I agree with you there. The game shouldn't be as grindy as it is. Sure, it's fine to be grindy, I like it myself - but maybe tweak the grindiness in a few bits, here and there...

 

Who knows! They might listen! *fingers crossed*

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Gyush
Last Edit : Mar 1, 2021, 13:40 (UTC)
# 5
On: Mar 1, 2021, 13:31 (UTC), Written by Ashlar

I agree with you there. The game shouldn't be as grindy as it is. Sure, it's fine to be grindy, I like it myself - but maybe tweak the grindiness in a few bits, here and there...

 

Who knows! They might listen! *fingers crossed*

Indeed we want to end up for the END game for Pvp/GvG not grind the same mobs over and over not fun! Go watch right now at Twitch 1st 2 channels they are just killing mobs who is gonna watch them for fun? no thanks! 

Last Edit : Mar 1, 2021, 16:57 (UTC)
# 6

Truth right there

 

Too much fricking rng and they seem to love doing this rng based progression with some disgusting added inconvenience to p2w

 

And yes bdo content is legit just doing 5 second combat loop on same mobs repeated for thousands of hours who would want to watch that lmao

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 02:34 (UTC)
# 7
Écrit le : 1 mars 2021, 16:57 (UTC), par : Gooyoung

Truth right there

 

Too much fricking rng and they seem to love doing this rng based progression with some disgusting added inconvenience to p2w

 

And yes bdo content is legit just doing 5 second combat loop on same mobs repeated for thousands of hours who would want to watch that lmao

 

Progression would be based on RNG if there was no alternative. Given the fact that most progression features a RNG-less alternatives, BDO's progression isn't based on RNG.

 

The "disgusting added inconvenience" is how businesses operate on planet Earth since thousands of years and is called premium services for premium prices. Why most likely RL capitalists become wannabe communists while playing video games is beyond me.

 

Lastly with your BDO content comment you just described grinders, no more no less. If you don't enjoy grinding you might consider looking for another game.

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 03:42 (UTC)
# 8
On: Mar 1, 2021, 16:57 (UTC), Written by Gooyoung

Truth right there

 

Too much fricking rng and they seem to love doing this rng based progression with some disgusting added inconvenience to p2w

 

And yes bdo content is legit just doing 5 second combat loop on same mobs repeated for thousands of hours who would want to watch that lmao

But than people call that poor game design content for some reason and say killing bigger mobs that do more damage per hit and just have more HP is considered end game content for that content. Why cause idk. Not like the mobs are really harder to kill their mechanic the same which is they have no mechanic beside waiting in place for a player to kill them. Only thing that makes them harder is that it takes more gear to kill them effective. 

 

The day when the 300 AP zones are grindable by everyone is hopefully the day that people realize there isn't actually any form of PVE content in this game worth doing. Infact as it stands right now beside mob grinding all other forms of PVE content is basically you not even playing the game. Fishing cast your rod minimize the game and play something that isn't bdo until you feel like reopening the game and seeing if you cought anything good. Cooking/Alchemy walk to a crafting bench que up few thousand crafts than minimize the game for few hours and play something else while the game auto crafts the items for you. Trading/bartaring load up your inventory open the map than right click were you want to go press T than minimize the game and play something else while auto path plays the game for you. Horse training open the map, right click anywhere on the map press loop button, T than minimize the game and play something else while the auto path mechanic lvls your horse for you. Processing press L select what you want to make than minimize the game and play something else while the game again plays it self for you. Farning place down a farm plot place items on that plot than minimize the game while those items grow themselves. An gathering and hunting well that just another form of brain dead mob grinding in the end of the day soooo ya.

 

So really what the only way to keep such brain dead content enjoyable easy rare drop rates that make you feel warm in side when your 1000 hours of doing the same thing over and over and over again is finally reward with your character cheering and the message popping up over your head saying you pick up sug and sug legendary item. Thus the reason why rare items can't be acquired without mob grinding cause than no one would grind mobs. Is it a stupid design fuck ya it is but it the BDO design that encourages gambling behavior. Cause people would rather swipe and get shit right away than spend hours doing mindless brainless dribble.

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Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 11:29 (UTC)
# 9
On: Mar 2, 2021, 02:33 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

 

Progression would be based on RNG if there was no alternative. Given the fact that most progression features a RNG-less alternatives, BDO's progression isn't based on RNG.

 

The "disgusting added inconvenience" is how businesses operate on planet Earth since thousands of years and is called premium services for premium prices. Why most likely RL capitalists become wannabe communists while playing video games is beyond me.

 

Lastly with your BDO content comment you just described grinders, no more no less. If you don't enjoy grinding you might consider looking for another game.

why try to bring politics in game, whats this new trend that came out of Reddit!? "Bdo doesn't have RNG" do we play same game?! 

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