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Awakening Sage's Overcharged Bolt Needs To Be Reverted Or Removed Completely
Sep 12, 2021, 23:34 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Oct 5, 2021, 15:17 (UTC)
# 1

                          Try and look at this post from an unbiased point of view. 
            Don't disregard it completely because you just hate sage players


The changes to sage were not well thought out, and the devs really did not think about how the changes would react with the rest of awakening sages kit.  It was a quick knee jerk implementation to quiet people calling sage OP in order to go back to working on other projects. 


After the 3rd overcharge bolt change, it was made to be a restriction to sages iframe, meaning he'd have to sacrifice another abilities cooldown if he wanted to iframe consecutively (most of the time the abilities used to do so would be completely unprotected.)

And this was fine, he had a clear handicap to how many times he would be able to iframe consecutively and he needed to sacrifice another abilities cooldown to do so, in my honest opinion this is how every i-frame spammy class should be (which they're not.)

But ever since Bolt was changed from iframe to 100% an SA, the overcharge requirement to using it is now nothing more than a heavy handed handicap to being able to move freely on sage. most of sages in-combat movement ability is locked behind having a target and engaging directly into them, and his only free forms of mobility are:
- Bolt (which is locked behind cycling mostly unprotected skills inbetween each SA (also it's extremely buggy with MASSIVE gaps on the timing between skills like relay) 

- Divine (long CD, and using it mostly just gets you killed since it keeps you in place mid air for like 3 entire seconds)

- Rift Pretty decent, but in order to use it - it's a bit like bolt, whereas you need to use a different ability in order to start the 2nd ability which is rift. And directly after you leave rift you're completely unprotected making it extremely easy to grab/cc you as soon as you leave it because it's insanely easy to track. Essentially making using this ability in front of someone an immediate death sentence. 

Before when Bolt was an iframe, it made sense to have the overcharge feature as a forced limitation. Like I said, every iframe spammy class should have a very clear limitation on their ability to iframe repeatedly (AHEM, sorc, ninja, kuno, lahn, ranger, tamer, [[[[[CORSAIR!!!!!]]]]], and nova in accel - unless they nerfed nova already - )  But they don't. And every other class that's able to spam iframe or sa is able to do so freely with free range of motion and no prerequisites for doing so. 

So to force sages main and only real free range of movement to not only be forced to have SA on it, AND have to completely sacrifice it's main combo abilities in order to have access to that SA, is completely ridiculous. Especially when you have multiple other classes that can spam iframes and SA without any sort of prerequisite and the only limitation they have is stamina (and in ninja and kuno's case Cooldown.)

So either revert the change and give awake sage the ability to iframe with overcharge, or just completely remove the overcharge limitation on bolt entirely. 







tl;DR


Sage is forced to sacrifice prerequisite abilities (most being apart of his main dmg combo rotation) in order to move during pvp. This made sense when his movement ability (bolt) was an iframe, but now since it's only an SA the need to sacrifice prerequisite abilities needs to be removed. Or it needs to revert back to being an iframe. 

No other iframe spam or SA spam class in the game has any sort of forced prerequisites or limitations on their iframes and SA's aside from stamina consumption (and again, in ninja and kuno's case cycling low cd's)

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 15:12 (UTC)
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100% fact you have to blow skills, usually ones with no protection, made it the most balanced movement in the game. Couldn't cheese infinte protection...how Sorcs, Ninjas, Musa, Mae, Striker, Mystic etc can Spam free movement is beyond me. It should be removed if they're keeping it SA, especially with the way Reworks are looking with movement...

 

I'd much rather see Sage players get Overcharge left as SA and Bolt iFrame...why it's not, is beyond me when the class has mostly melee to mid-range skills with a third its kit actually being TP to Target...horrible desgin. A class that can't move w/o it being directly with a Target in Range but no reliable Iframe lol OR Class that has to blow all it's Skills just to move when no other class is required to do so....

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 15:38 (UTC)
# 3

?1

 

Sage literally dances around, T-poses and does all these comicbook stances.

 

Then lightning just storms around killing things. It's silly. 

 

He's really just a better version of wizard. 

 

He's a fanservice/marvel kid/zoomer centric character. 

 

He's does not deserve the mobility he has for being so protected all the time. 

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 16:15 (UTC)
# 4

Those sage nerfs were really uncalled for. I lost both my arms in a milling machine accident at work a few years ago, and I have been playing PC games with my feet. None of the classes did well for someone that plays with their feet, and it was difficult for me to do well in RBF and NWs. When PA finally released sage, it was a godsend for a handicap person like me. I was able to achieve 1k RBF points consistently and outfrag the succ wizards in my NWs. Now they nerf the shit of the class, and I can't play anymore.

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 19:41 (UTC)
# 5

Those sage nerfs were really uncalled for. I lost both my arms in a milling machine accident at work a few years ago, and I have been playing PC games with my feet. None of the classes did well for someone that plays with their feet, and it was difficult for me to do well in RBF and NWs. When PA finally released sage, it was a godsend for a handicap person like me. I was able to achieve 1k RBF points consistently and outfrag the succ wizards in my NWs. Now they nerf the shit of the class, and I can't play anymore.

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 20:12 (UTC)
# 6

Can clearly see the salt from players less skilled and adapt at fighting fast classes. Sage isn't even the fastest, has the slowest untargeted movement in the game, needing to use a skill between each dash in order to activate overcharge mode. Fact no one has even touched that topic or, IS EVEN AWARE that it was mandatory to do so, clearly explains how bad and unknowing some players are. When you have Streamers out right saying they've not lost against a Sage, haven't fought enough to even know it's skills and are relegated to watching the few pro high gs players to get an understanding of the class is rather telling. For a class that's touted as being FOTM, why isn't it still as prevelant as Succ Wiz? As Warrior? As Zerker...ect lol. Logic apparently has left the building.

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 20:22 (UTC)
# 7

Can clearly see the salt from players less skilled and adapt at fighting fast classes. Sage isn't even the fastest, has the slowest untargeted movement in the game, needing to use a skill between each dash in order to activate overcharge mode. Fact no one has even touched that topic or, IS EVEN AWARE that it was mandatory to do so, clearly explains how bad and unknowing some players are. When you have Streamers out right saying they've not lost against a Sage, haven't fought enough to even know it's skills and are relegated to watching the few pro high gs players to get an understanding of the class is rather telling. For a class that's touted as being FOTM, why isn't it still as prevelant as Succ Wiz? As Warrior? As Zerker...ect lol. Logic apparently has left the building.

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 20:32 (UTC)
# 8

Bolt iframe, Overcharge SA, done.

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 20:58 (UTC)
# 9
On: Sep 13, 2021, 20:32 (UTC), Written by NamelessTreasure

Bolt iframe, Overcharge SA, done.


No brainer for me too...why it's not this, I won't understand...it's not like other classes have to Spam their combo skills to reuse an SA movement skill that costs as much. Meanwhile, Tamer's iframe spamming 100 stam. Sorc spamming Iframe chains, Musa/Mae spam RMB, Mystic/Striker spam movement...but nope, the only class in the game with shittier versions of block jump and arid and nightmare is a class that can't even have a reliable iframe.

 

"Use Impalling Flash" lol, you mean the skill that requires an entire skill and cancel to get a shittier unreliable Striker backstep? The skill is ONLY iframe for the fraction of a franction of a second when you're starting up and traveling to target, it's 99% SA on an 8 second cd lol. Lack of class knowledge and Sheeping is insane.

 

"It does insane damage!" You mean with 310 AP and FULL HUMAN DAMAGE, yeah, any class does at that level. I can't tell you how many ppl come into discord asking why their Arkanon skills are bugged w/ only one appearing...b/c it was 3 skills chained together...but ppl literally load vids of it "one shotting", when it's 4 skills w/ full buffs in trial gear. If you're getting one shot by an Awa Sage, please clip and send, we'd like to copy the build b/c we've been theory crafting for months and are unable to replicate.

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2021, 21:15 (UTC)
# 10
On: Sep 13, 2021, 20:38 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz


No brainer for me too...why it's not this, I won't understand...it's not like other classes have to Spam their combo skills to reuse an SA movement skill that costs as much. Meanwhile, Tamer's iframe spamming 100 stam. Sorc spamming Iframe chains, Musa/Mae spam RMB, Mystic/Striker spam movement...but nope, the only class in the game with shittier versions of block jump and arid and nightmare is a class that can't even have a reliable iframe.

 

"Use Impalling Flash" lol, you mean the skill that requires an entire skill and cancel to get a shittier unreliable Striker backstep? The skill is ONLY iframe for the fraction of a franction of a second when you're starting up and traveling to target, it's 99% SA on an 8 second cd lol. Lack of class knowledge and Sheeping is insane.

 

"It does insane damage!" You mean with 310 AP and FULL HUMAN DAMAGE, yeah, any class does at that level. I can't tell you how many ppl come into discord asking why their Arkanon skills are bugged w/ only one appearing...b/c it was 3 skills chained together...but ppl literally load vids of it "one shotting", when it's 4 skills w/ full buffs in trial gear. If you're getting one shot by an Awa Sage, please clip and send, we'd like to copy the build b/c we've been theory crafting for months and are unable to replicate.

Co-signed ^^^^

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