1.) I'm not the one who is making countless threads, crying about the game's systems.

2.) I personally don't care about being good at PvP in a game. Where the lion share of players PvP power comes from IRL cash, and/or RNG progression. Sorry, I play actual PvP games that focus on a balanced non-P2W PvP experience. That actually give PvPers full agency over their performance. I guess shitters like yourself need to brag. About being good at games that give them a inherent unfair advantage.

3.) I do find it super funny that you call me fearful. Meanwhile you are so scared to the point you don't post with main open for all to see. We call that projecting. What a joke you are, only good for a laugh.

Lol you don't need P2W to have stuff I don't have P2W and I have 690 gs and I didn't have rng, I just was patient, and I've been playing since the release of the game, after if you are bad there is little nothing changes just the game

Dude.  Stay on track.  I already said karma can be a good thing. You're reafirming what I just said, so Moral superiority complex need not apply here lol.  Stay on track.

>> I presented a proof that karma can also be a bad thing.

1) Be guildless.

2) Find someone already grinding a good end-game spot. IE: Elvia Red Orcs.

3) Do not ever flag up.  Hit mobs right in their face.  Where they can obviously see you.

4) Ignore the person.  Do not communicate, no matter what they say to you.

5) They will get frustrated and likely PK you. 

6) Keep on ressurecting if PK'd and repeat.

^ What do you make of this situation?

Your previous response didn't state your opinon on it, you merely said "go to Arsha", which is a fallacious solution and I explained why:

(1) Arhsa and Normal have a different set of rules, therefor, should be treated differently.

2) People normally don't grind Normal servers seeking PvP, they seek PvE, like myself and OP

3) "Go to Arsha" doesn't do anything for Normal Channel, the problem still exists for people who PvE there.  People can disrupt the gameplay of others in a negative way with no viable recourse.  There are countless accounts, and countless talk about this issue, it is not new.

There's only so much handholdig one can do to keep this discussion on topic, and on track, from these deflectors.

I grind normal channel to PvE.  Not to PvP.  BDO etiquette, generally speaking = Solo grind spots are designed to be grinded solo.  Conlfict happens naturally, this is part of game design.  Players can resolve conflict by many ways in this sandboc game, major ones are = 1) Talk it out (diplomacy), 2) Mutual contest (most usually DFS), 3) Brute force (PK / guild dec).

There is a fourth way.  And it's called Karma Bombing.  Refer to bolded text.  I am willing to bet most players will agree that scenario is toxic.  That's the topic of this thread, refer back to Original Post.

1) Be guildless.

2) Find someone already grinding a good end-game spot. IE: Elvia Red Orcs.

3) Do not ever flag up.  Hit mobs right in their face.  Where they can obviously see you.

4) Ignore the person.  Do not communicate, no matter what they say to you.

5) They will get frustrated and likely PK you. 

6) Keep on ressurecting if PK'd and repeat.

^ You support this, apparently.

The words of a perfectly toxic person, I play should give us the means to fight against guys like you, the proposals that I asked are perfect for that, but for the moment thus leaving this game, your departure will participate in its improvement

I mostly pk(or try to) everyone on sight in grind zones if i have karma. Yesterday some guy told me he was going to report me because i killed him rofl. And the funniest part is that he even killed me since when i pk i play with my food a bit and he used that chance to kill me. 
The reason i pk is because it is fun for me. I never expect them to leave the grind zone if i pk them and nor do i care if they do. If he keeps on ressurecting you can just not pk him :-??

That doesn't mean it's "your" spot. As it is open PVP. Meaning, anybody can join in. It is not your rotation. The spot is not yours because you were there first. The concept of griefing in this case is a laughable matter. The only way you can grief in a open world is when you purposely go out of your way to hinder somebody to level. This is not limited to: Stalking, harassment, killing for the intent of pushing somebody out, so on, so forth. That is griefing. Not if somebody randomly went to your rotation and killed a cluster of monsters. There is such a thing called sharing, or politely asking if one can leave as you need this specific spot for a reason such a guild mission or a timed quest.

Whenever I am in an area with a few friends to combat grind, and the spot has been empty for quite some time, somebody occasionally will politely ask if they can hoard the spot for x and y reasons. I always say yes unless it's a guild mission. They reply with "wow no dfs? really? i can have it? thanks man. really!" and we move somewhere else/next channel. If those spots are taken, we leave to do/kill something else until it becomes less crowded. Monsters and money are materialistic as BDO is just a game to me.

A war declaration on anybody is also a silly concept. A person can go out of their way to war declare somebody out of spite. I've been to Polly's several times as a lifeskiller, and many times a random person immediately assumes I am there to combat grind and tries to kill me(but they cannot because I am 49) tells me to get off of their spot because I am distracting them, or switch servers before they report me for griefing(which once again, I am not even combat grinding there in the first place) and that if my guild had more members they would find and kill me wherever I go.

It's apparently okay to immediately kill people over a spot because it's ~your~ time and ~your~ spot, but as soon as you get Karmabombed it's a problem? The solution? Don't kill them? Just talk to them? Chances are, you may come to a solid agreement outside the insult battle match.

When I say "you" I mean you as in public opinions. Not you as a person.

Look. I respect your opinion. And I wanted to add something here to clarify:

To your claim about, it's not "my" spot: Yes, anybody can join in. However as far as I am not ignored I am there and I am already in this rotation, one can simply ask me personally, if I can allow him to join in and depending on the situation I can either say "yes" or "no". If I am not going there for XP, I am lenient on allowing him to group up with me. I've done it two-three times before. But if I see an aggressive behavior(in some cases unnaceptable) or somebody trying to intentionally push me out(and other rotations are taken or might be), how exactly are you going to deal with uninvited guests in my place? This is what I was trying to say and I even mentioned it before in other threads. One can try to reach an agreement with me personally or just yolo for PK and try to claim the place(not the whole zone).

The second statement never happened to me personally. Most of my encounters were attempts of PK(without KB) or some of them were not that hostile as I have mentioned above. And if I see a person, who I know is hostile, I am on a high alert and prepared to defend myself. Yes. I am not going to give up without a fight.

To your statement about war declaration: Allow me to clarify here, since you're missing something. One person comes back, after I rightfully defended my own spot from that aggressor. Could be a KB-er or he was trying to. If he was with a guild, I would notify my guild he was trying to KB me and intentionally tryis to ruin my day with unsportsman behavior. Even if I defend myself and my spot for the second time, he could potentially come back for the third time. Sorry. But there is a dec inc, because of the said aggressive KBer, who's trying to make me red intentionally. In other words the real aggressor is trying to make the victim to be the aggressor by toxic means.

If this person was without a guild, I would adopt a different strategy myself.

Conclusion: I am minding my own business myself, grinding and don't go in other's rotations to waste their time needlessly. I am not going to be aggressive. If one comes to me, he can ask me nicely or try to PK me. His choice matters and it will have consequences.

There is no solution to this wich will make all happy removing pvp or setting cap can limit ppl farming as gear would be pointless maybe add shared loot table all in group gets loot if they hit enemy  could remove the constant fight of a spot or add a penalty based on gs if you kill someone much lower at a low gs spot could add a debuff of weakness also the more you pk weaker you get and high gs spot with low gs player in will add a buff if you kill low as a way to tell those players to grind up gs also maybe add loot to players that get killed part of their trashloot gained