Combat Silver Inflation...
Sep 23, 2021, 12:40 (UTC)
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Sep 24, 2021, 19:05 (UTC)
# 21
On: Sep 24, 2021, 00:55 (UTC), Written by Pretzelicious
That's a lot of people exaggerating then s: seen/heard it in too many streams/discord. I've seen in the Archer Discord people submissions with Garmoth.com from 400-600m and a few with even more.
There was this golden era where the weapon drops in high frequency where you literally see it stacks in the inventory space. I know I grind Orc at that time. Now it is significantly lowered at least from what I experience.
Anyways you can test it yourself. There is a 10m Weekly boss weapons anyone can do.
Also most people dont' account the value of the drop rate increase (tent buff), perfumes, or even the weekly weapon turn ins to that mass "400-600M" . As a 300K AP Witch i'm at the region of 300-350M h (only weapons no perfumes, or tent buff).
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Sep 24, 2021, 19:28 (UTC)
# 22
On: Sep 23, 2021, 23:43 (UTC), Written by maRee
@ArchaicTriad
Nevertheless, i don´t see this topic right on saying there is a inflation. Inflation also means, that people cannot buy anything anymore, or their cash what they have in their hand is nothing worth anymore, even they earn money, for them a piece of bread would be more worth than a thousand dollar bill, for example, thats inflation.
It is not a real world capitalized market, the whole company -Pearl Abyss- can limit and make changes in an instant in the game, which you won´t see in the real world doing by the governments, except they are socialist governments and control the market, but than they don´t have such like similar inflation thing what happens automatically in the capitalism markets - unfortunately for them (socialist countries, at least what could be seen in the past), they have other problems of less or slow development, poverty, etc.
(Kindly correct me anyone, if any of my statements about inflation is wrong or only half-true, since i am definitely not an expert...)
Imma give my take on this one
While what you're saying about value of silver being true, the value of "time" is really inflated right now. While people are making 400m/hr in low level spots, we have every single lifeskill that isn't cooking being out from being an option. People don't consider anymore "oh yea if u dont like grinding you can try other lifeskilling like active fishing or bartering or sea monster hunting or trading" but its more like "if you're planning to semi afk, you can do bartering but the profit is neligible compared if u grind"
It's now a compromise rather than an option
Here's the result of the "inflation". You can either get 5 bil with either 10 hr of grinding, or 10 days of bartering. The options suddenly now became obvious, and this is the result, lifeskilling became dead. Speaking from a sailor perspective, all two viable ocean grindspot is dead, and iliya island become deserted if you compare with stars end era where you can't even park. Im not even going to talk about horse training or hunting other than feather wolves or active fishing (harpooning included) or active imperial trading or alchemy or tanning
Also with the rate how money and gear progression is being pumped, 1 year ago softcap gear now become absolute trash, which is pretty much concept of inflation except the value of items that are always needed are artificially capped and PA keep controling droprate for popular needed items. The players who spend 500 hours playing last year vs player who spend 500 hours this year will see totally different gear at the end while still being clapped by hardcap players. It won't be long till full fallen god set is released and suddenly full pen gear c10 + pen acc is the new softcap while imperial trading from margoria to valencia only makes 20m/hr
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Sep 24, 2021, 21:16 (UTC)
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Écrit le : 24 sept. 2021, 19:28 (UTC), par : Gooyoung
Imma give my take on this one
While what you're saying about value of silver being true, the value of "time" is really inflated right now. While people are making 400m/hr in low level spots, we have every single lifeskill that isn't cooking being out from being an option. People don't consider anymore "oh yea if u dont like grinding you can try other lifeskilling like active fishing or bartering or sea monster hunting or trading" but its more like "if you're planning to semi afk, you can do bartering but the profit is neligible compared if u grind"
It's now a compromise rather than an option
Here's the result of the "inflation". You can either get 5 bil with either 10 hr of grinding, or 10 days of bartering. The options suddenly now became obvious, and this is the result, lifeskilling became dead. Speaking from a sailor perspective, all two viable ocean grindspot is dead, and iliya island become deserted if you compare with stars end era where you can't even park. Im not even going to talk about horse training or hunting other than feather wolves or active fishing (harpooning included) or active imperial trading or alchemy or tanning
Also with the rate how money and gear progression is being pumped, 1 year ago softcap gear now become absolute trash, which is pretty much concept of inflation except the value of items that are always needed are artificially capped and PA keep controling droprate for popular needed items. The players who spend 500 hours playing last year vs player who spend 500 hours this year will see totally different gear at the end while still being clapped by hardcap players. It won't be long till full fallen god set is released and suddenly full pen gear c10 + pen acc is the new softcap while imperial trading from margoria to valencia only makes 20m/hr
Cool paragraph based on big fat lies. Nobody makes 400m/h on low spots, especially not the overwhelming majority of the playerbase and literally nobody on a sustainable basis since Agris points and loot scrolls aren't an infinite ressource.
Lobbying for a balance with lifeskills is good, however just don't blatantly lie to make you point and lose all credibility.
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Sep 25, 2021, 14:40 (UTC)
# 26
On: Sep 23, 2021, 21:43 (UTC), Written by Boink
It is the affect of Fakegurus. Fakegurus that been dominating online space especially on Twitch and Reddit. They create this high standards, set a video of someone else grind, set it as a standard or fact. If they try to replicate said value and they can't do it, they just fall back to well "someone did it, or here is the video of someone that did it". Although the video might be an hour long and could been good streaks, or that video cut off to the point where the player in question just bought stuff with real money and show case their gear to get views.
It is essentially an ego trip. They just want to be part of that crowd that is "smart" or "successful".
I still don't understand why lifeskilling has to compare with grinding when the AMOUNT of real money one spent to grind effectively in this game trumps lifeskilling by a huge margin. Again lifeskilling has it's own perks, I just don't see the reason why Pearl Abyss has to make them equal to grinding. Especially as a business.
Yeah this is a good point.
Let's work out how much us grinders have to invest real and ingame monies:
Not only 100s of billions of silver on gear but pots,buffs and vell heart fuel.
Real money: kama, loot scrolls, tent, maids, vp oh and cool looking outfits for morale, to grind longer.. not to mention our real life limbs are taking a beating
Really there should be more perks for the grinders like grinding mastery lifeskillers get there perks and they're just sitting about.
So I suggest depending on your monster kill count you get a % drop rate buff at 2 million 5 million etc this would be fun(and I'm not just saying this because I have 4.9 million kills)
It's unlikely people will be killing grass beetles en masse as this would be inefficient and defeat the object
Also, to hit 600 million an hour you have to pull in 10000 trash minimum at BM continuously this is not possible because if like me you've grinding almost 4 years straight you will have 0 loot scrolls left apart from 1 a day from vp and I don't double them up and only have only 20000 agris per day, or the alloted daily amount, point is you will mostly be grinding with just kama. I've used the 600 odd free ls's they gave out and bought over 500
And ofc the you have to account for dfs in high end areas hence why I'm at aakman
Yeah once I dropped x3 disto in one hour at SE in no way can I say I make 1.2 billion an hour, as I've gone 30 hours twice with no disto.
I would say I average over all, 175 an hour at aakman and my trash is over 6k raw, thats including the 4 pri tungrads that have dropped over the years
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