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When does BDO gameplay get challenging?
Oct 2, 2021, 19:37 (UTC)
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Challenging in the sense of fighting mobs that force you to avoid certain attacks else be killed? Practically never in PvE, PvP can get really challenging though but unfortunately you have to put up with a LOT of monotonous grinding in PvE to even stand a chance in open world PvP.

 

I'd say the most challenging thing in BDO is trying to maintain your sanity when it comes to enhancing lol

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On: Oct 3, 2021, 11:37 (UTC), Written by EgoAdAstra

 

Again BDO is not a sandbox as it has more restrictions on player agency than most Themepark MMOs. The only challenge in BDO is turning off your brain so you can grind for thouaands of hours if you don't have a boosted account. Or the IRL money to skip multiple years of progression in a matter of a few months.

 

- There is no player drvien economy, as it's completely controlled by the devs. Very poorly controlled might I add. Don't believe just look on the marketplace. And see how many items are forced to be sold, for much less than their base ingredients are sold for.

- You can't realistically progress by strickly doing PvP. You make more progression doing low end grind spots than you do in PvP.

- You can't realistically progress by being a crafter. The devs force a lot of fully crafted items to max sell for less than the components to make them.

- The Devs choose the players road to gear progression or punishes the player for deviating from said road. Grind braindead NPCs or press F and AKF for hours.

- There is very little freedom of player expression. The devs don't even allow the players to express themselves, like most Themepark MMOs do with emotes,

 

When you ultimately look at it. BDO is just a Open World Forced PvP Themepark Grinder MMO. You can hate all you like. But it don't change the truth.

 

Eve Online, Mortal Online, Ark: Survival Evoloved, Scum, and Rust are examples of sandbox games. BDO less in common with them than it does with it does with most Themepark MMOs. Actually BDO restricts the player more than most Themepark MMOs do.

 

 

 

Back on topic now. The only challenging thing about BDO. Is continue grinding the same 2 to 3 NPCs or pressing F enough times for thousands of hours. Till you get geared enough to actually become a player in BDO. Oh yeah also avoiding the meaningless content that are noob traps. That offer little more than to keep the player from progressing. Let me dispell the misconception of BDO is about the journey. There is little meaningful journey in BDO. There is the end result of having enough gear to start to compete with other players in PvP.

 

So many downvotes...I guess people don't like the truth. BDO is only a challenge, if you find it a challenge to sit and grind for months and years to get anything you want. BDO has a great astetic, character creation is amazing (I love making character looks) The combat is very fun. But other than that, there's not much to it. But, just like any MMO it's a grind. You grind to get gear, so you can keep grinding to get gear, all the way till you have the best gear you can have and have all the SP/levels you'll ever need. MMO's are basically a hamster wheel, trying to keep you entertained enough, not to notice the wheel while you fork out hundreds/thousands of dollars trying to reach the end, only for the bar to get raised by them so you need to spend more money.

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On: Oct 20, 2021, 12:55 (UTC), Written by Mariin

So many downvotes...I guess people don't like the truth. BDO is only a challenge, if you find it a challenge to sit and grind for months and years to get anything you want. BDO has a great astetic, character creation is amazing (I love making character looks) The combat is very fun. But other than that, there's not much to it. But, just like any MMO it's a grind. You grind to get gear, so you can keep grinding to get gear, all the way till you have the best gear you can have and have all the SP/levels you'll ever need. MMO's are basically a hamster wheel, trying to keep you entertained enough, not to notice the wheel while you fork out hundreds/thousands of dollars trying to reach the end, only for the bar to get raised by them so you need to spend more money.

 

This is true that how MMOs are, but a lot of MMOs still manage to have challenging content in them. Take Mortal for example you can be in full steel armor with a tungsten sword, but if your not paying attention the wolves can devour you if your not paying attention to what they're doing. Not to say there hard to kill just that even low tier mobs in that game can beat even the most geared players if they choose to try an play the game like a headless chicken. Here though I can legit go afk for 30 mins while mobs are smacking me an still not die.

 

Am I saying BDO should have difficult content like Mortal Online? No, but what the point of having the best action combat system if it's unneeded to clear content due to how easy content is?

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On: Oct 20, 2021, 12:55 (UTC), Written by Mariin

So many downvotes...I guess people don't like the truth. BDO is only a challenge, if you find it a challenge to sit and grind for months and years to get anything you want. BDO has a great astetic, character creation is amazing (I love making character looks) The combat is very fun. But other than that, there's not much to it. But, just like any MMO it's a grind. You grind to get gear, so you can keep grinding to get gear, all the way till you have the best gear you can have and have all the SP/levels you'll ever need. MMO's are basically a hamster wheel, trying to keep you entertained enough, not to notice the wheel while you fork out hundreds/thousands of dollars trying to reach the end, only for the bar to get raised by them so you need to spend more money.

 

You forget the owpvp aspect in your reasoning, which is both the reason why pve can't be too elaborated and a challenge in this game.

 

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On: Oct 20, 2021, 14:15 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

You forget the owpvp aspect in your reasoning, which is both the reason why pve can't be too elaborated and a challenge in this game.

 

 

Yet other games like Mortal Online, L2, and even some areas in runescape have OW PVP with difficult PVE content. So ya they can this just a pure ignorant statement to make, especially when games with full loot/gear drop on death games have done it or are doing it successfully.

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On: Oct 20, 2021, 14:55 (UTC), Written by Contorto

Yet other games like Mortal Online, L2, and even some areas in runescape have OW PVP with difficult PVE content. So ya they can this just a pure ignorant statement to make, especially when games with full loot/gear drop on death games have done it or are doing it successfully.

 

I guess we don't have the same definition of "too elaborated" pve. And if you bring elaborated pve with owpvp, you take the risk of creating new kinds of griefing, people can be jerks, you know ? And you would probably be one of the first to complain about it... 

 

You read half of my answer and throw your misconceptions again, right? And you dare call my statement ignorant, ironic. 

 

(funny, even on mortal online you can find some topics asking for a pve server) 

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On: Oct 20, 2021, 18:25 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

 

(funny, even on mortal online you can find some topics asking for a pve server) 

 

Funny even on Planetside 2 topics you see people demanding the devs to remove PVP, but sug ideas contradicts the game's core design, same goes for Mortal Online. Meanwhile BDO only has PVP because the devs still think they have a chance to save the garbage that they call PVP balance in this game. But really removing PVP wouldn't contradict any part of why PA made this game, because anyone who takes even an hour to sit down an look at this game's gameplay loop can see that at this game's core it designed to be a casino that attracts your attention long enough to empty your bank accounts.

 

The question is can the game function without PVP. An yes BDO can 100% function without PVP, because nothing in this game revolves around PVP, progress, making silver, obtaining core game items, PVE content. This game could 100% lose its PVP an majority of it's playerbase wouldn't care sense on average you encounter PVP in this game every 1-4 weeks, even longer if you try to avoid it. Hell even when going out of your way too PVP you can't even find PVP most of the time.

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On: Oct 20, 2021, 14:55 (UTC), Written by Contorto

Yet other games like Mortal Online, L2, and even some areas in runescape have OW PVP with difficult PVE content. So ya they can this just a pure ignorant statement to make, especially when games with full loot/gear drop on death games have done it or are doing it successfully.

 

L2 has dificult PVE content ? Realy the game is on autoplay atm, you call that dificult.... or some Boss that you learn the mechanic after the first try. Am I misssing something. I mean I play that game 12 years but I stop after they totaly ruin it. Now my father still plays it on autoplay. So Im asking seriouslt, is there realy some new dificult PvE mechanic ?

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On: Oct 2, 2021, 19:47 (UTC), Written by CatDK

lvl 40 is basically not even out from the tutorial phase. You will oneshot everything untill lvl60 areaas, and it takes less than a day to get to lvl61.

Also what is challenge for you? BDO generally only offers repetitive chore tasks, and gambling, neither is challenge.

 

That's where you went wrong. bdo is full of noobtrap useless/obsolate/pointless "content", which is only a waste of time to do. That also shows why you thing having a lvl40 character (like not even half hour of gameplay) is anything worth even saying.

 

I cant figure out why folks downvote you, this is the gospel truth

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