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Reboot "All" Classes
Oct 8, 2021, 21:10 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Oct 8, 2021, 21:30 (UTC)
# 1

I've been playing BDO for years so far.
I am glad that PearlAbyss had finally started listening to users voice and trying to fix what should have been already fixed long time ago.
Nowadays, checking updates on global lab became one of joys for BDO players.
One of the big changes and what people are waiting for the most is definitely Class Reboot.
I am more than happy to see this wave of changes and PearlAbyss' new vision and the direction of improvement.  


I just want to write here about what I've been worried and what should be the baseline of class reboot.

I could be wrong. I want to see how other people think.
First of all, I know it is too early to judge because not all class reboot has been released yet.
However, I do think this is the right time to speak out about concerns or give feedback before it is too late.


It seems like now old classes will get increased skill range, damage, utility, or improved skill combos (which is very good).

But, I feel like PearlAbyss forgot about a major premise which is Perfect class or skill set does/should not exist.

If it does, then everyone will play the same class.

This had not come into my mind just because of class reboot but long time ago as I play bdo for years.

Let me be more specific.

If a skill has slow skill motion, it should be compensated with tremedous damage or AOE(area of effect).
If the skill has slow skill motion, big damage, and huge AOE, then it should not have CC(crowd control).
If the skill has all that above, then the cooldown should be long enough.
It can be applied to opposite examples.

I feel like 'new classes' will be the 'new old classes' after the class reboot. 

When the classes such as Guardian, Awk Hash, Succ Nova, Succ Sage, got slowed by debuffs, it is even hard for them to apply second CC after the first CC or apply any damaging skill in between CCs.
On the other hand some classes, they put 2~4 skills in between first and second cc so quickly but still does tons of damage.
And now, these classes are even getting huge AOE or getting improved their strength that they've already had.
So, this is the first thing that I think should be considered. 
'give and take'

And the second concept is 'cancelling skills'.
Some classes like Warrior, Valk, and etc, are able to cancel their skills in the middle of the motion.
So, good players use this cancelling skills to bait the enemy or to dodge enemy's grapple.

Some of the slow skills of classes that I have mentioned above should be able to cancel in the middle of motion.
When there are tons of engaging skills that are either super armor, frontal guard, or invincible in BDO, those slow skills (or classes itself) are no more than suiciding skills.

I am not just saying those classes or skills should be buffed and motion be shortened.
They should at least be able to do something instead of being killed helplessly in PVP.
Especailly now many old classes with short skill motion and small AOE are getting improved, then those classes with slow skill motion and big AOE should be improved as well.

I hope PearlAbyss take chance to look closely into the 'new classes' after they finish the class reboot.

Lv Private
Azir
Last Edit : Oct 8, 2021, 22:51 (UTC)
# 2

I agre and have been saying we will never get a balance because it's just a matter of perspective. The closest thing we cna get to balance is everyone having the same claaa with same skills...I think they shouldn't have wasted ther time giving in to so thing that never can be accomplished theres a bias to your class I play and no one cna all be satisfied look at the balances so far the people that play that class are Excites while the classes that don't play ranger and warrior striker etc are pissed lol plus there will have to be another reboot for the classes after archer to keep up with the huge gains of striker b warrior n the reworked classs

 

i wish u guys would have just stuck to the plan and road map for once..never gave in tot he critiques (haters gonna hate) and just do minor fixes maybe to like archer (he has no succession, no one cna deny he doesn't need a buff or too) or a few huge maybe one or too problems not reworks the whole clas skills etc. I mean I remember u guys talking about the lad of kmusa and lahn by this time way after the winter world..it should ha e Ben dine and gone but all this time wasted on trying to make the wrong people happy. Just like the dungeon (everyone wants it. We got it and they hate it only problem) I will say the most negative vial game players play this game it's not a passion it's a hate for other trying to take there spotlight...it has bred crazy players and hate in the chat and towards u devs who I believe so try ther best but get nothing back for your work!!!..thanks

Last Edit : Oct 9, 2021, 01:35 (UTC)
# 3

I concur. Newer classes that haven't been performing as promised should also get reboots.

Last Edit : Oct 9, 2021, 05:54 (UTC)
# 4

Idle speculation - what if all classes had retained their release specs (with bugs fixed), and not been nerfed... seems a lot of this would never have been necessary in the first place.

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Doiportne
Last Edit : Oct 10, 2021, 17:19 (UTC)
# 5

Agree 100%, some of these changes are pretty insane. I'm at a loss, when Succ Sage struggles against Warrior and Striker ALREADY. To see protection on failed grabs, when Succ Sage doesn't even have a decent protected CC to begin with is a joke. Both classes also have more mobility and better utility to boot. If you're going to "Rework" only 17 classes? Why are they all getting good buffs? If it's to compare to some of the newer classes, that aren't top like Succ Sage...then it's a different story. Awa Hash too struggles in PVP content outside of 1v1. But some of these reworks are taking the gaps/punishable mechanics out and giving more speed and damage then both mentioned above? If you're going to launch those "Reworks" should literally just revisit ALL of the classes at this point. What's a few more for balance sake? 

Last Edit : Oct 16, 2021, 19:08 (UTC)
# 6

It took 2 years to them to realise that many of the old classes are underperforming in awakening, succession or even both...

At this point I would not hope that they fix things like succ sage or nova anytime soon. 

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Last Edit : Dec 30, 2021, 01:13 (UTC)
# 8

This thread should be alive, non-rebooted classes need some love now since reboots are so damn strong. Otherwise, those classes are gonna be dead in just some weeks.

Last Edit : Dec 30, 2021, 16:44 (UTC)
# 9

This is just laughable seeing the fotm player cry, when they actually need to brain to compete with veterans.

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