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Maehwa awakening reboot Pros/Cons and what it needs
Oct 26, 2021, 15:32 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Oct 26, 2021, 15:32 (UTC)
# 1

Hi,

 

Here is what I think of the maehwa reboot so far after testing on GLab 

 

PROS:

1.) Stub arrows feel smoother than before when using the skill

2.) Range and speed increase on Frost Pillar/Flow: Tip of an Iceberg

3.) Faster charging speed on Petal Bloom

4.) Cooldown reduction on multiple skills, including Opression 

 

CONS:

1.) The new stub arrow system makes it complex for no reasons, not being able to use any of the arrows from Hotbar removes the ability to use the iframe on Charged Stub Arrow while being in awakening

2.) No new mechanic to be able to deal with shield classes, especially Nova Succ

3.) No iframe on Sleet Step

 

What I think the class needs to be able to compete in pvp with other classes:

 

1.) A grab - as a melee assassin class, maehwa needs a grab to be able to deal with heavily protected classes/shield classes, every new classes has a grab while also having good protection and mobility

2.) Iframe on sleet step and lower the CD to 3 secs 

3.) Lower the CD on chase to 2 secs

4.) PVE still feels impactful, buff some PVE damage on skills

 

Last Edit : Aug 29, 2022, 12:59 (UTC)
# 2
On: Oct 26, 2021, 15:32 (UTC), Written by MaeMaeXI

Hi,

 

Here is what I think of the maehwa reboot so far after testing on GLab 

 

PROS:

1.) Stub arrows feel smoother than before when using the skill

2.) Range and speed increase on Frost Pillar/Flow: Tip of an Iceberg

3.) Faster charging speed on Petal Bloom

4.) Cooldown reduction on multiple skills, including Opression 

 

CONS:

1.) The new stub arrow system makes it complex for no reasons, not being able to use any of the arrows from Hotbar removes the ability to use the iframe on Charged Stub Arrow while being in awakening

2.) No new mechanic to be able to deal with shield classes, especially Nova Succ

3.) No iframe on Sleet Step

 

What I think the class needs to be able to compete in pvp with other classes:

 

1.) A grab - as a melee assassin class, maehwa needs a grab to be able to deal with heavily protected classes/shield classes, every new classes has a grab while also having good protection and mobility

2.) Iframe on sleet step and lower the CD to 3 secs 

3.) Lower the CD on chase to 2 secs

4.) PVE still feels impactful, buff some PVE damage on skills

 

I'm seriously not understanding the inconsistency with the lack of iframe on sleet step.  The only classes in the game without damage negation on the low cd side step skill are musa/maehwa.  Literally every other class has either iframes or FG+resistance on the side step skill.  It makes it more ridiculous when you observe that even the bruiser shield classes have this protection.  Even ranged classes have this protection.  Every other assassin class has this protection.  Yet musa/maehwa have to eat any AoE damage if they try to side step...on top of double the cool down of even the longest side step skill of any of these other classes.  You can't even explain this away by pointing out the move speed of chase...since it alternates between iframe and SA...as well as the fact that chase only allows you to run away or run to a fight...not reposition during a fight.  This is in addition to the fact that the other assassin classes ninja/kuno...even bruisers like warrior/zerker have at least equal skills to chase.  Even guantlets get superior skills to sleet step..fully protected iframes...on top of their superior survivability.  I'm just lost on the actual justification for this oversight or intentional slight on maehwa/musa.  This is literally the reason why I can't trust maehwa on end game grind spots that actually do require the ability to evade one shots.  Even my guardian can completely side step incoming damage with several iframes consistently.  Musa/Maehwa seem to be the only two classes with zero iframes on their awakening kit.  I'm told that both sleet step and frost feint used to be iframes about 3 years ago.  I find it ironic that they would remove that while simultaneously proceeding to release every single new class with that same functionality they are still denying to musa/maehwa. 

Last Edit : Sep 24, 2022, 04:50 (UTC)
# 3

Yeh, the lateral defenses, thats a class identity hill they will die on before changing.  I never liked the concept of forced playstyles backed behind histolric references when it comes to gameplay.  Those two have been iconic in their Seek-overwhelm tunnel vision type assassin, Never really ment to be hang back left and right for an opportunity type. Its why their blocks are not a true 'stance' but a take a breath before lift off. 

--Again its been a hot minute since i have pulled my mae out, and i could be wrong; If they have changed, buffed and raised the bar on the quirky defenses they had i don't see why they wouldn't bite the bullet and get rid of the last thing so they can be just another rat (Rotate and Trade) assassin.

Last Edit : Sep 29, 2022, 10:46 (UTC)
# 4

As an old disgruntled maehwa player I shall share some great knowledge with you guys.

In the great nerfening of Sleet steps (Whenever they allowed it to be canceled into from Red Moon), removing the glorious i-frame from it.

..That was only for PvP.

It has been a PVE I-frame this whole time.

(There is a gap/can be a gap if you don't time it properly/spam it, lag can still get you killed.)

Edit: For Clarification I have tested this at Olun's, underground gyfin (Don't have AP for  Calpheon Elvia really?)

I have sleet stepped pretty much all of Karanda/Stormbringer Karanda's stuff, Normal Kzarka's room wide AoE( May have Nightmare i don't remember), Nouver/ Whatever the Special Nouver is,  Kutum (Haven't cared enough to go to Thundercloud Kutum), Garmoth's Roars when they land...

 Things that are generally sketchy or that I haven't figured out the timing to their attacks. Dark Rifts seem Inconsistent not that you really need to dodge things there anyway.

But other then that... Yeah they should give I-frame back to Sleet step in general :^)

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Last Edit : Dec 30, 2022, 19:59 (UTC)
# 5

please give baewha the same jewelry options as the other female human classes

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