You probably feel like you made a really good point, but dunning-kruger does that to people. OP is crying about reworks in general (which would included my class) and other person is crying about a class that isn't their own (which is one of my class). 

Infact, how does "So then why are you in their space?" even connect to what I said? 

LMAO what a stupid guy.

The overwhelming mayority of the players would never say or promote anything that would hurt his class, and would indiscriminately support anything, that is a buff for his. The people are greedy, and they are only interested in their own benefits.

btw you are a great example, bitching here trying to defend your broken shit lel. Like that berserk one only an example, but seemingly was a great hit :)

But don't worry, PA don't give a damn about the feedback here, so even if your shit getting fixed that won't be cause this topic.

Not like that would matter either, the whole rework is pathetic so far, that's merely the tip of the iceberg...

Completely ignoring Warriors, Gauntlet classes (Striker hello?), Lahns, Current Novas. 

Do tell me how Zerk is more overtuned than these classes. Infact tell me anything you think is busted on the class, without it being a bug.

You clearly lack critical thinking if you think going into other discords (or here) and calling everything busted is going to be productive. So tell me in your opinion, what's the best way to give feedback?

Try being constructive and giving ideas for changes. Not babyraging *waaaaaaa* busted class *waaaaaaa* I see stuff I don't like *waaaaaa*

Also every post I've seen from you in the rework section has been bitching, so go on. Do tell me who's bitchin. 

I may have a zerk and played with the class myself. However I haven't spent much time with that class. I don't believe currently he is broken. Nor the rework will make him such from what I have seen. That's just from my PoV and my own opinion.

You people forget that this rework you see is NOT final and is still subjective to change. It is said by Anders(an youtuber, whom I personally like the way he speaks and thinks) and the devs themselves both - written by CM. Go read/hear this yourselves, if you don't believe that.

How to be constructive about a potential change? Simple. Be mature and criticise with constructivity not with whining. Why this and why that must be this or that. Be aware, that it can be also refused. Cry about it, if you want. The chance to be heard is 0%. I've tried that in the distant past too and believe me it never works. Absolutely never regardless of what you do.

What makes you think they will change major things again? you expect a rework of the rework? that is not going to happen. Anders just parrots what the CMs say. He doesn't even mention the broken things that everyone figures out after few minutes playing on Lab.

There is only time for minor adjustments and bug fixes. Not to change major flaws. We still have:

- super speed (hello nova)

- ranged grabs (hello every new class released since a year)

- literal 1shot skills (hello seismic)

- some classes elevated to be viable in everything, others still crap in all but one thing. some have plenty of hard counters, others none.

etc...

And not a single word to change the newer classes, that will most likely still be at the top after reworks.

That's why people are upset. They are realistic and know there is simply no way to balance without adjusting some mechanics by a LOT.

All right. Whine all you want with a round 0% contribution and I'll just sit and watch. Oh. And in case anything changes from all this whimpering, I would like to be called. I'm just curious to see, if it will work... From me-чао.

Edit: You're not correct about Anders. In several vids, I've heard him sharing his own personal opinions on the current matters.

You talk about parroting but this entire community is an echo chamber of, "this is busted or overtuned" without any reason. For example, they see a bug on zerk leap and now the class is busted. Their continued justification is, "these changes look different - this further drives my narrative". They don't have any understanding outside their own class and view any half-decent changes as "busted". 

One reason I only want the most skilled players to speak their minds and opinions. Why? Because they understand much better how the game works and actually have knowledge and experience. Thus making much more successes in the game. A better understanding of the circumstances too. Not the "Students that have a low grade" at something. They either skip the details, ignore them(dismiss them). When it comes to being constructive and ask them personally, what would they do it's like this: I would do this or that from false info(obviously).

Logical mind is much more important than emotions and having black eyes at someone else.

who have guessed the rework is a failure. this game is dead.