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Remove Shai leggings/censorship, same as global!
Jan 29, 2021, 19:12 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Mar 28, 2022, 21:23 (UTC)
# 281
On: Mar 28, 2022, 20:06 (UTC), Written by Brassica

Am I? And you say this while aware that half the Shai players in the game already bypass the patch because of an underwear box from half a year ago? And BDO has been beseiged by neither lawsuits nor mass Shai orgies since?

The law which mandate mormon underwear are a convenient myth that people have imagined into existence since they lack any actual arguement. If such a convenient reality existed, PA would swiftly respond to threads such as this with a copy/paste "sorry your locals laws require it, it isnt an option."

And legalize pedophilia? lmao. When you have nothing left, call names. It's a good one too, nobody wants to defend pedophiles. The only problem is that is the laziest regurgitation of an arguement that has only ever made sense to unaware virtue signaling pedophiles.

Normal people dont see Shai's feet, ankles, calfs, legs, face, hands, arms, shoulders as "sexualizing" because we do not view Shai as sexual objects. Just as you do not(hopefully) view your dog as sexualized, even though it may be a naked adult male with a dingus swinging around. Just as you(hopefully) do not view your cat walking over and putting his butthole in you face(because they love doing that for some reason)as a sexual act because you do not inherently view them as sexual objects.

People who honestly believe in that arguement are just ironically unaware that they are just projecting beliefs and a world view that only makes sense to other people who view Shai sexually. So yeah, if playing Shai made you feel all tingly in a way that you shouldn't, I totally support you deleting that character and maybe seek some counseling.

What the actual f..k did I just read?

I am stopping my comments here. You've outdid yourself going in THAT direction.

Best of fortune the censor to be removed. :)

Last Edit : Mar 28, 2022, 22:31 (UTC)
# 282
On: Mar 28, 2022, 21:23 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs

I am stopping my comments here.

Thats probably for the best, you didnt have much to offer.

I can't be sure if it was a good comparison. I'm trying to get on your level and put it in terms that you may be able to understand, but it is difficult to get in the mindset of somebody who sees Shai shoulder and thinks "sexy"

I hope there are no public beaches in your area

This was deleted by the writer.
Last Edit : Mar 31, 2022, 15:41 (UTC)
# 284

loli argument

anti lolis never have any good arguments only feels.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2022, 15:53 (UTC)
# 285

As a Shai I'm honestly quite happy that this class isn't over sexualized like the other classes because I enjoy wearing actual armor that looks like it's designed to protect and the goofy looking outfits are just hilarious. Last thing this game needs is more bikinis, high-heels and party dresses because it feels so done and outdated.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2022, 05:01 (UTC)
# 286

I read through about 19 pages of this before skipping to the end to see if the "pedo" argument is still happening. It appears to be so. Regrettably, it seems the people crying "Pedo" have a serious problem with comprehension, so I've made it simple for them:

That... is all this argument is about. 
Shai mains want option 1, but are forced into Option 2, which make purchases of in game outfits for real money look attrocious and feel like a wasted expense.

Personally, I choose to hide my "underwear" pajamas and have the default crappy texture plain cloth under layer under my clothes for the most part, but even that shows through my outfit. Though I can tolerate it:

The failure to even try to understand the definition of the terminology is the key problem in this conversation. We just want to wear an outfit without another outfit showing through underneath. That's. It.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2022, 07:50 (UTC)
# 287

Even if this post is the second most popular post...Really, I can't understand why if some players got some of this item from random underwear box, after more than 4 months... still, we can't buy they in pearl shop. I think is very unfair to rest of Shai players. the items are in game, they can add for pearl shop easily!

While NA/EU Shai players are discriminated and force to wear ugly pajama, I think as Shai players, we shouldn't buy anything from pearl shop as protest, may can be unique way to make PA hear the voice of players...or how about a manifestation in heidel? :D

At the end in NA/EU we only want same rights than rest of world about Shai underwear. I think our voices here are clear!

Last Edit : Apr 2, 2022, 17:37 (UTC)
# 288

For all of those who are confused as to what we are asking for, let me provide some examples.

We want the same models and textures that are present in the KR version of the game.

Here is a side-by-side comparison of the default underwear.  This is the underwear that is painted onto the Shai when the underwear slot is empty.  You can see this with the Pearl shop open and you select the "View Underwear" button.  This is also the underwear that is seen whenever an outfit has open areas, such as exposed shoulders and exposed knees.

As you can see, the default underwear in KR is very modest in comparison to the other classes in the game, yet the company decided to edit/self-censor the clothes as part of the localization process for the NA/EU version.  We are asking for this change to be reversed and nothing more.

Here are some examples of the Shai character creation process.  The first video shows the Shai from the KR version:

(Jump to 2:20 for the body editing which shows the underwear)

The second video shows the NA/EU version:

(Jump to 11:30 for body editing.  Also note that editing the Shai's muscle definition is greyed out and disabled)

As you can see, the default underwear is not obscene in any way.  I see no reason why the localization/censorship in regards to the Shai model and textures cannot be reversed so the NA/EU version of the game matches the KR version.

Last Edit : Apr 3, 2022, 01:08 (UTC)
# 289

I'll go a step further. 

Sexualize the Shai theres literally no good argument that they shouldnt outside of some people finding it "icky"

"it normalizes pedo" theres no evidence for this. Also this implies an imiganiry problem of there being a huge community of people accepting of pedophillia in kr,jp mmorpg communities and anime communities which there is also 0 evidence for.

"it will attract pedos" theres no evidence for this and even if it did by that logic bann all violent video games because they will attract violent psychopaths.

"if u like it your are a pedo" So if u like rape porn u wanna rape or be raped. if u like vore u wanna be a cannibal. incest porn means u wanna have sex with your sis, age play pedo, race play slave owner wannabe., etc

So its fine if shai is sexualized theres no good arguments against it. Its literally just a bunch of pixels so put her in a string bikini or whatever it dosen't matter.

Last Edit : Apr 4, 2022, 17:51 (UTC)
# 290

Hi, I read your responses and heard your concerns. I'm cool with the censorship going away, I like armors and prefer armors but recently have tried a few more casual wear for outside of wars. I do not see any issues with giving all the Shai underwear options to all the regions at this stage of the game. I hope the devs continue to make good outfits for us, that is all. Thanks for reading!

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