The reboots are not looking good. The changes that are being made, are not good.

There are far far too many changes to talk about in one single thread, but most of you already know that across classes, stuff is getting ruined. There is no clear plan, there is no structure, and everything is being done on the fly with most of our feedback being ignored. It's been awful to watch and I honestly hope that none of this comes to live. I expected them to rework entire skills, how they looked, they way they worked and their input commands, but so far, we've nearly 3 months of number balancing adjustments with warrior getting the only actual reboot.

And now for some reason, even the new classes passives are being changed. Why. You said you were ONLY going to do older classes ("All classes from lahn and earlier") None of this makes any sense.

These reboots are a massive dissapointment. It's been a total failure PA I wish you'd stop, and do this properly, or don't do it at all.

Pretty much this, it's a total disaster, just as was expected to be.

But there are already multiple topics about it, and it's not like PA would care about the feedback anyways...

Everything is a mess we have AP/Dp brackets, we have PvP table, CC that works or doesn't work on PvP/PvE... all is even a bigger mess after 2018 patch and that rework was a perfect time to clear all the crap but it won't happen so RIP reboot/rework

no, release it and be done with it, if they don't release they will keep "working" on it what is just waste of time. Pump this shit out and forget about it, new season soon time for new class.

TBF i see alot of ppl are unhappy with the changes and PA does need their time but atleast for the changes "we" suggested they seem to have listened to the part of us who cared and got their suggestions in. OFC it isnt perfect yet but i cant say im unhappy looking at the changes they did last week. Maybe we should just give them their time and keep them updated with feedback when they change stuff. From what it seems pa really wants this to turn out good and takes alot of time for this ( they delayed basicly everything else for this ). Maybe just keep it up with the usefull feedback on the class/es that you care for and see whats gonna happen. 

But tbf on some classes i feel like the suggestions and what ppl want go in all directions and have 0 red line on what they want/need so it seems kinda hard to make changes that the majority of ppl are happy with.

I believe they want to do well on this. 

This is not true, heck actually the opposite. The mayority of the changes look like total random changes.

You're right that they pushed everything else asside for the reworks(smol indie company with a team of 5 devs), and in the last ball (a half year ago) they said that they are already working on the reworks, but in the reallity, they only spent effort on the first few classes, and then quickly rushed the rest within a few weeks in "just get it over with" mentality, and that's clearly visible on the results.

They do not care about the reworks, they just used it as a pure marketing stunt, but they have no intent of any kind to actually balance the game, or make the trash tier classes competitive.

Also they only added bandaid fixes here and there, they didn't cared to actually adress any issues. The grab classes still have advantage over the grabless ones, they completely ignored the SAblock, instead nerfed the regular block what noone asked, they did not removed RNG resist either. The passive changes are a total disaster, classes like wizzard getting 12 extra AP for the loss of 2% cast speed, other, weaker classes got massively nerfed with the passive changes, etc. etc.

Yeah there are a few lucky classes, but if you can't understand how lackluster the changes are as whole, just check the vote on the reddit, according to those who bothered to vote(with like half of the votes), the already overperfoming striker got the most buffs, despite he should've not even got any buffs in the first place...

As many have said already: please give some love to those skills that are either really trash or only usable in situations you will almost never find yourself in. Just an example as casual ranger: this class has a lot of skills that MOST players actually lock, not just for nodewars or something but for improvement in overall gameplay. No this is not only about ranger, as I will go more in depth on that topic where i should, but there are too many skills that are quite useless. As far as i have seen most changes are to improve the skills that are used in the different classes, which means that the trash skills will be considered even worse after the reboot and i can't imagine the developers to be proud of their work if a good part of it is just outright rotten. So please dont just add new things and improve what is already good but do look at the whole kit of skills each class has and properly try to make most use of EVERY skill.

I did ask this in the BDO discord, but i wanted to put this question here: Is the Awakening of a class meant to replace the main-weapon skills, so changing back to those skills is only for rare occasions or was it meant to be a more complicated hybrid between both mainhand and awakening ? Depending on the answer to this question the reboot should either Introduce Awakening skills based on some of the skills in the main-tree like the Prime-Versions just in a different direction or increase the damage and usability of Absolute-Version skills to function as a base-kit of skills that can be integrated in both awakening and succesion gameplay. The changes as of yet seem to try to force the former of both possibillities but in a strange and twisted way....

PA killing their game some more