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How is PA going to address the karma bomb problem?
Jan 30, 2021, 03:55 (UTC)
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Feb 2, 2021, 09:59 (UTC)
# 21
On: Feb 2, 2021, 09:18 (UTC), Written by Eynix
That's the exact same thing. It does not matter if I say "hi" to you or not before I punch you in the face, does it ?
Yes but duel for spot is like "hey dude lets go outside and sort things out like real men do" :D Instead if getting punch in back of the head when you take a sip of beer
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Feb 3, 2021, 12:28 (UTC)
# 24
On: Jan 31, 2021, 09:36 (UTC), Written by Vulpin
Honestly I hope they never address the karama bombing issue cause I don't see an issue here. 4 years ago you could never find a rotation any were you went because you'd always run into some who would flag up on you can kill you over and over and over again or at-least try. Sure it encouraged PVP but made actually grind a chore sometimes I just want watch a lets play on one screen and grind and make gains not have to PVP someone for 5 hours striaght over a grind rotation.
On top of that issue because it basically cost nothing to kill people some players would just run around in small groups of 5 people for hours just KOSing people that couldn't fight back for hours on end which also made finding a rotation a headache. These rules may be strict and punishing, but with how people are complete Aholes in this game there needed otherwise it just be 24/7 griefing (like how it was) to no end and no one would be able to grind.
Even the naval karma system while yes it extremely punishing is sadly needed because people would literally just grief players trying to AFK bartar non stop to no end making the idea of afk bartaring pointless because at any second some griefer will come along and blow up your boat carrying 200m worth of silver on it which results in lossing 200m silver.
So really if you want too complain about the karma system well go yell at the Aholes years ago that explioted it so they could grief others 24/7. Seriously the griefing got so bad that the game almost died because of it no one was playing because no one would grind longer than 2 seconds without someone flagging up on them and trying to kill them. PVP is fun but not when it just pointless griefing that literally never ends.
At the beginning of the game it was much easier and straight forward. If you were killed while you were flagged you lost XP, your cristals may broke and even if you were negative karma your gear could delevel. The spots were controlled by the strongers players and stick together in parties were mandatory to avoid grieffers or spot losses.
A few months since the game launch, they patched the PVP system to be like in theses days... strength and gear level doesn't matter anymore (as much as before) and anyone is capable of griefing anyone messing up the rotations.
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Feb 3, 2021, 18:03 (UTC)
# 25
You can solve the problem of karma bombing yourself.
Step One: Look at Karma.
Step Two: See karma is low, stop killing the guy.
Step three could be to simply outgrind the guy or realize you're beat but the key here is to realize if they died once and they aren't bothered by it; there's no point in continuing to kill them.
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Feb 3, 2021, 18:46 (UTC)
# 26
Or you just feed them to mobs if possible if you feel like flagging up? Remember , grinding spot belong to no one, what ppl care about is efficiency so they are gonna make it sounds like " I was here 1st so it belongs to me ". Well no it doesn't. Fight for it in a way or another.
I made the suggestion of being able to pause some of your buffs such as Lootscroll, so you don't waste them fighting for a spot, and they made it even better now it works just like agris .
If someone comes to a rotation i'm in , i'll try and outgrind or feed him to mob if I can't dec, worse case is i'll go to my red alt and kill (depending on the place I grind in)
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Feb 4, 2021, 04:08 (UTC)
# 27
On: Jan 30, 2021, 03:55 (UTC), Written by Vicious
So, I see this is a trend in EU servers right now.
They come on the spot, lose the duel and the next thing is griefing and karma bombing. ( or they don't even ask for a duel )
Our karma is enough for 4-5 kills or less if he takes down a few pieces of armor.
We need a fix against people like this since this has become a daily routine for them.
Guildless + Ghillie outfit and they grind like I was never there.
I know is not the same thing in KR but EU players are toxic to the moon and beyond.
We need a punishment system for players like this.
It's a little bit sad, I grinded 3 years to get where I am only to be pushed out from the spot by a random kid on a lvl 60 with 250 AP.
The upcoming main server system and server wars will solve *some* karma bombing issues and create more open world pvp imo. They are also working on adding bounties which might encourage more pvp but honestly I feel like it will be a waste of time and just more reason to not flag up at all.
Below are some notes on server war system though (from Calpheon ball announcement):
- All guilds will now designate one server and gain benefits when playing in that specific server
- An example of one of the benefits you gain is that you can freely move between the different numbered channels under the same name without a cooldown
- Invasion week and server wars are also planned to add more content that ties in with the new main server system
- Invasion week will be held every 1 – 2 months and during this period you will be able to obtain attack and defense buffs and better benefits. However, your guild will become hostile with all guilds from other main servers and can freely “invade” other servers in open PVP battles. The details are still in development but the idea is that the main goal will be to steal the other server’s relic and if successful, your server will gain additional benefits
- Once Invasion week is over, each server will be placed into Calpheon or Valencia territory, with the hopes that it will be somewhat evenly split. Guilds belonging to each territory will then take part in a grand battle to invade or defend from opposing server guilds.
- Guild Campsites and tactical elephants will be added to serve as frontline headquarters in these battles and add more strategic elements.
- Developers are hoping that this content will be more open to all guilds despite their size and strength. The aim will be that guilds from the same territory will work together and protect eachother.
- Certain restrictions will be added to this content to ensure that adventurers who do not enjoy PVP are not effected. More PVE and life skill content will also be added that will effect the server war and create competition within the territories.
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Feb 5, 2021, 23:40 (UTC)
# 28
There is no karma bombing problem. In almost every case, the friction is caused by the player with the elitist/entiltled attitude & not the normal player....then they come here to cry about an unfair system. Laughable. Guess what? friendly players don't get karma-bombed.
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Feb 6, 2021, 11:06 (UTC)
# 29
On: Feb 5, 2021, 23:40 (UTC), Written by BIGREX
There is no karma bombing problem. In almost every case, the friction is caused by the player with the elitist/entiltled attitude & not the normal player....then they come here to cry about an unfair system. Laughable. Guess what? friendly players don't get karma-bombed.
Now thats a bs, I can see you re not grinding high end spots.
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Feb 6, 2021, 11:17 (UTC)
# 30
On: Feb 2, 2021, 09:06 (UTC), Written by Eynix
I honnestly can't believe how entitled and arrogant some players are. As said, karma bombing is not the root of the problem. The problem is some geared player think they can have it all. Not all of us like PvP and/or are hardcore players. Does that mean we don't have the same right to grind and to play the game than everyone else ?
I honestly cant believe how arrogant some players are. Instead of investing some time to properly learn their class and some match ups, which by the way doesnt take so long that you need to be a hardcore player, they ll whine about their rights on forum. You should be glad there is a dfs otherwise every constested spot would be full of griefers. I am 606 gs grinding SE. I still duel ppl that are a lot higher gs than me and i lose because of it sometimes. Its still a better alternative than every other player, higher or lower gs than me, just coming to the spot, either trying to kill me or simply griefing me when he realizes he cant.
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