How does that work if you find someone already grinding in the location and then just mob feed them because they won't leave?

Survival of the fittest has already been proven as a failure in attracting a larger cusomter base.

This is NOT the direction Pearl Abyss wants to go in.  Demonstrated by their history of lessening the penalties from players dying.  From removing exp loss to less trade goods.  Pearl Abyss feels it's an essential goal to make a more hospitable environement for everyone.  This is an essential aspect for recruiting new players.

The fact the Pearl Abyss has tweaked a bit the ruleset doesn't change the core concept which as you stated it, is called "survival of the fittest", which remains the determining factor in large areas of BDO.

I'm not sure about the validity of your point about the popularity of this concept since Pearl Abyss made some core choices when designing BDO which made it rather a niche game. The fact that they kept most of those core choiced almost untouched or lightly tweaked seems to show that they're fine with the overall situation.

I think I like  the PvE server idea(season style).

But only a few as a disadvantage. People can grind there with no karma drama, but it will be overcrowded like it is on season.

Would still grind there, cuz i prefer a enviroment where people are forced to share .  new players who are graduating from season should get them as recommended. 

Like I said, only a few ,maybe  4 like season.  Griefers wouldn't go away. But they would become less frequently.

You start the conversation with

"I honestly cant believe how arrogant some players are"

But have you taken an honest look in the mirror?  How arrogant and miss informed would it be to suggest that players are just "unskilled" and that is the issue.  Meanwhile class blance, FPS, Gear Score, PING, are some of the most determining factors in PVP.

Also how does kicking customers out of an area help the long term survival of the game?  Wouldn't MORE customers be good for an MMO.  MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE.

How about proposing a real solution like less over crowding in the game.

Complaining about pvp in a pvp game is kinda ironic lol.  Don't claim a rotation if you don't have the gear to maintain it.

Last 6 months I've only dealt with people askin for duals and them having a lack of dp.  The one person that got salty over the duel I outgrinded and they shortly left.

I get pvpers want to pvp or force pvp in a pvp game.

But pvp is being avoided because their target is either handicapped against the pvper or has nothing.

That pvper, also, don't care about that target until they do not want to pvp anymore. Then I see people come to the forum

and call someone a carebear because they don't want to pvp against someone, especially if they are not built for it. They don't have the gear but you do, so it's ok for you to kill them and they should love it. That is all I am reading.

You want pvp but you're not going after the pvpers, you're not giving potential pvpers a chance, you're driving people off that really want to play the game and get to the point where they can pvp, or you just downright call them names because they dare not pvp you. This is all that I see anymore.

Maybe they don't want to pvp you because they cannot pvp you, for one. Maybe they don't like an unfair fight that you're giving them or the fact that the game's economy is very expensive and it's going to take them months, maybe even years to catch up to you and what do you do? You pk them and tell them they're wrong and are carebears for not wanting to pvp you.

What, also, makes things worse is that the Majority of you talk a bunch of crap. You drag that person through the mud, you go on server chat and you talk crap. And a lot of you will pk camp. "Well, they should get good." You're literally killing someone who is less fortunate than you. It's like a pressional MMA fighter beating up someone with no training and no sparring gear on. You literally are complaining there is no pvp but you're chasing away any potential pvper because they can't do anything or get anything because you're in their way.

And it's also Ironic that a lot of you want the game to be more and more active but you're chasing away people, potential new pvpers, new then saying it's ironic people are complaining about the pvp.

Simple solution: Be a shai with 505DP full eva and inf HP pot. Have a set of AP gear for your grind and a set of DP gear for when someone bombs you. It'll be funny for you and it'll make them question their life choices.

I fixed this for you.

PvPers have a whole server dedicated to no penalty while the only options a lifeskiller/PvE are take off 30 days from the game or stay level 49.9. I think this thread has no actual value because of this.

This is a nonsense. Why do you do PvE on a PvP game? Please, leave these non-PvP activities which don't reflect the game you think you are playing on.

Narrow-minded answer for a narrow-minded argument.

It's one thing to pvp out of joy of pvp-ing. It's another thing when you pvp out of necessity of defending yourself and your resources.