They not going, since it's already adressed, and called Arsha. Use it.

Topic can be closed.

So in other words you what a mechanic the makes feeding people to mobs 100% granetee? This sounds like an terrible idea that would literally kill the game's grinding mechanic instantly thus killing the game in the process. People wouldn't just go into your rotation an grind over you now they'll bring whole guilds to feed you to mobs. Guild like bar code, peepobaba, and other known griefing guilds would have a field day if such a  terrible idea was put into the game.

Not amazed to see so many players "outraged" by the entitled "high-level/geared player" that wants to keep his grinding spot. 

I will explain this like we are in kindergarten:

This is just an example so don't rush to be offended or take it on a personal level.

ME - LvL 65 - 300 AP/ 400 DP - playing for over 3 years - minding my own business on a grind spot.

YOU - LvL 61 - 245 AP/ 300 DP ( Tuvala gear ) - playing for 1-2 months - with the mindset that you can and want to grind in my spot.

Since YOU don't have a guild/expensive crystals YOU don't have anything to lose, so the easiest way to take over my spot is to ruin my rotation.

Loot scrolls are something in this game, people actually paid a few bucks in order to increase their trash count and make more silver. 

Now every player that plays by the DFS etiquette will say "spot taken" or agree to your DFS ( if you ask for one ), but in most of the cases we are slapped with "so what, I don't care"

When YOU force your way like that, the only options we have are to tell you nicely to leave or force PK.

Now because YOU have so much information from Youtube you already know that if I force kill you 3 more times I will go RED and I will risk 3 billions worth of crystals. 

So now, let me get this straight...

It's perfectly normal for YOU to come and grief/karma bomb ME because YOU want to grind there without any penalty, but if I want to keep my spot I need to force PK and risk losing billions.

This is a little bit sad.

Let's punish the veterans who actually worked their arses off for years in order to be able to grind in a certain spot but let's do nothing about low geared griefers/karma bombers.

Anyway, the only solution I found viable for now is an ALT character tagged with 20 billions worth of gear and no crystals that can one-shot any PEN Tuvala.

EU community was already toxic, now is just sad. If this keeps going the PvE will turn into a bloodbath between players.

Funny part is I can just look at what class people play and know what side they're on without reading their post lol.

Good 1v1 class=We need to fix karma bombing

Bad 1v1 class=I'm tired of being kicked out of every spot.

And your name is Vicious. Yup, you're top of the food chain and you have fears. 

The only thing I believe in / affects me is 'wasting' time. 

If a player is driven out on any possible spot. His ONLY gain is by taking mobs on a rotation someone is already doing. Coz it's the last resort he will still gain something, he will lose time compared to owning the rotation himself, but its more than nothing. It's just up to the person who finds what time more valuable.
When I can clear a rotation fully 100% (so when mobs spawn I'm on them) then no one can possibly 'grief' me. If someone does in another rotation clears faster than me, he wastes my time, thats where I swap channel, or find another spot. 

Duel for spot & karmagriefing / bombing PROBLEM is fictional.

I agree with most of what you say. However, if you're grinding in a spot where you're killing packs in one or two shots, maybe you're not in the right area either. (seewhatIdidthere?)

If you're grinding in Stars or O'Dylitta where the GS requirement is considerably higher than shrooms or Fadus, then by all means someone who's not able to grind efficiently should have it explained that maybe they need to go back to a location they can safely grind away. But, if you're a 570GS or better grinding machine, maybe shrooms aren't your mobs either. Yeah, I know pot pieces blahblahblah, but there are many lazy people who are doing it just so they can feel uber. After all, grinding for a pot piece in sherekens is a lot harder than grinding for it in shrooms. An uber grinder might be able to drop down to shrooms to melt hundreds of mobs, but a lower geared player isn't going to be able to do the reverse. 

So, if you're going to say that new/undergeared players should stay in their lanes, then so should the veteran/overgeared players.

Community rules come from the community; if the community is shifting towards a care-bear no PvP plz world then that's regretable for us PvPers but I guess we need to go with the flow.
The point I however disagree with, is that the community is indeed shifting towards a no pvp plz scenario.

In my experience, please forgive the anecdotal evidence, the vast majority of the playerbase on EU servers still abide by the:
"ehy man, dfs?"
"ye sure, bo3 no e no z?"

"aight"

And frankly I find this quite beautiful; a playerbase that has devised its own etiquette on the division of spoils in a sandbox game. With that said, I'm hesitant to ask for any changes from PA regarding the matter, in benefit of karmabombers or that of the PvPers. It would get in the way of future developments of such player-based rules, and subtract from the game's sandbox nature.

If you were to ask me to devise a plan for this predicament I'd have the following suggestion though;

Add a reduction in karma-loss for each subsequent kill on a player happening within a short time-frame.
Add 5 PvE only channels, where the non-pvpers can interrupt eachother's rotations in peace (including immunity to GvG).

Allow guilds to declare on specific players, a guild hit-list of some sort.

Allow guilds to force-dec guilds usually unable to be declared on, with a maximum duration of 1h and a CD of 24h per target guild.

That is just one side of the problem.  I've seen lower geared players who think they can have it all / own everything / are entitled to everything too.

The other side is when a player harrasses another player by way of purposefully - with intent - to annoy and pester someone.  I wonder what your GS is for you to say this.  Only because I don't think you've ever experienced being karma bombed before, so you can't relate.

One day I was grinding Star's End peacefully - minding my own buisness.  Some person comes into the rotaion I'm current;y occupying, hitting mobs.  They are very slow to kill the mobs, which lets me know they have low AP.  I kindly ask, "Yo, I have LS running, leaving in about 20 min."  They ignore.  Not a response at all.  I grind ahead of them, killing the mobs faster.  Person refuses to leave!!  They are guildless, so I cannot send a dec.

What's worse is if that toxic person removed their gear and tried to purposefully die --- This is what Karma Bombing is, and yes, it does exist.  Karma Bombing is when someone purposefully tries to annoy / harrass someone else with the intent of coercing them to flag and lower their Karma.  This has happened to me while I was peacefully minding my own business, and when I interact with people in-game, I try to be as cordial as I can be.

-- AT this point, I know what you'll suggest.  1) Swap rotations.  2) Share the rotation.

These are not very viable solutions in the context of Star's End or BDO in general.  SE is meant to be a solo grind spot. 

Why should I be the one to bend over backwards when someone is negatively influencing my gameplay?  You can see your side, so why can't you see the other side?

Maybe they didn't see your chat? Idk. I won't doubt you have been greifed. But I would have a hard time believing someone could take there gear off in stars end and die to you before the mobs killed them.