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FML more grinding, please STOP
Mar 4, 2021, 00:14 (UTC)
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May 11, 2021, 12:08 (UTC)
# 21
On: Mar 4, 2021, 00:14 (UTC), Written by Tristesse
Hi,
You know, I was actually excited today to test out the new 'content', but after a few hours grinding am actually realizing :
Can you guys please stop making more and more and more and more grindspots???
Again am forced to grind even more, atleast if i want the new necklace and enchantments, wich I do ofc bc we all wanna do as much dmg or be as tanky as we can.
Thats all we do in this game ''grind" and thats all you guys come up with ... it is a vicious circle of the same content with a new flavor.
When is the fun content coming? When are you guys actually gonna break the circle and come up with something that is fun instead of a grindfest, just FUN!?
- new rbf/battlegrounds (capture the flag/zone, 10v10)
- arena (ranked, unranked 2v2/3v3/5v5 with some cool rewards, Q-system)
- actual pve content that is not grindy (dungons, pvx content you promised?)
Why does EVERYTHING that you guys come up with always need to be a grindfest?
You keep releasing new grindspots that in most cases are not even better then any other we already have, so whats the point!?
Now you annouced a new class, for what? Nova felt and still feels unfinished? Class balance is still shit ...
It is sureal that you guys don't see that your living in ur own bubble, doing your own thing without listening to the community.
The community has 1000 good ideas, you just aint listening.
Holy s****,
problem is most likely monetization. grind spots require loot scrolls. gear requires enhacements. etc etc. battlegrounds are hard to monetize directly i suppose.
i am actually amazed how much they avoid improving red battlefield
it would need at least simply fixes asap:
1) removing ghillies from rbf (and gvgs)
2) map/radar doesnt work properly, u dont see your team/enemy team properly on it. mix in guildie marks on radar and u have total trainwreck
3) respawn zones are basically invitig enemies to zerg and grind spawning team due to them having to jump down basically defensless into fight
4) spawn protection buff has to be taken manually from npc instead of applying automatically upon respawn
5) various bricks, barrely, plans with ribs that make movement really had
6) camera angle getting brken when u turn your back to wall or even tiniest trees
7) some classes grabs and skill go through walls
8) list goes on
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May 11, 2021, 12:37 (UTC)
# 22
On: May 11, 2021, 11:37 (UTC), Written by Tristesse
so if I understand you correctly you are of the opinion that they should not spend time on good and fun content, nor should we try to get the message across, and that they should just release more grind zones? (bc thats what there doing). Its not that they don't wanna put any effort in creating content, its the fact that they put the effort in the WRONG kinda content.
There are so many people who just AFK fish 24/7 and log in once in a while, is that the kind of players you want?
Bc if $ is the goal then AFK players aint going to give you any of that...
Discord is full of people who want better and more fun content, but you just submit to it.
Wow, aion, neverwinter, elyon, others, all mmos, some of them Korean, everywhere you have to grind for your gear, but, besides that there is fun content like battlegrounds, arena's, etc.
I really don't get these kind of comments, the contrast between what the players want and what we get as players is so big, and your reply is "a well, so be it"
And finally, there is a difference between PA that wants to go in a specific direction and for that reason releases X or Y content, and between a PA that is in the belief that X is what we want while the reality is just the opposite.
In the case of PA it is the 2nd and not because they are korean and that is the meta among korean games, because it is not.
There actually convinced that more grind zones are what we want ... more gear to chase is what we want, more boring lifeskilling is what we want, etc etc etc
Well first of all, believe it or not, Korean players actually love grinding "content". They're a special lot.
Second, don't get me wrong. I'd love more quality story and PvE content in BDO, but I am not holding my breath waiting for it. It's been asked since the launch of the game and 90% of the content we've been getting is new classes to grind with, new zones to grind in, and new gear to grind for so you can grind in even more new grind zones. I don't see this pattern changing radically in the future to be honest. Sure, they're adding the first "proper" dungeon later this year. Maybe they'll nail it, maybe they don't.
Tl;dr: You can keep wishing for BDO to become the game you want (and perhaps it one day will), or you can move onto the game you want to play. It's your choice.
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May 11, 2021, 13:22 (UTC)
# 23
On: Mar 4, 2021, 01:21 (UTC), Written by Catastigma
Your Community must never be listened.
BDO is perfect as it is and your nauseating Themepark ideas you can keep at home on WoW and FF14.
Take the doors.
+1 I highly agree!
Stop crying about a grinding the same NPC for 1,000s of hours in a grinder. If you want meaningful content and progression, just go play one the other MMOs that have it. BDO is perfect for the people who it was developed for. If you want anything less or more, just kick rocks and go elsewhere!
On: Mar 5, 2021, 02:47 (UTC), Written by Kad
I really would like more reasons to group with players that aren't grind zones. Dungeons might be just the ticket to bring in a lot of players & build lots of good relationships with friends/randoms. People forget that dungeons don't have to be the holy trinity but they do have to force cooperation and strategy.
I'm quite positive for the future of BDO - seems to be coming along really nicely!
ESO, FFXIV, or WoW might be the right MMO for you. Hell if you must have a F2P MMO you can even chose shitty ArcheAge. But BDO is all about catering to people who want to play a Singleplayer MMO outside of ganking and harassing noobs. Again if you don't like it just leave. Bye Bye!
On: May 11, 2021, 09:03 (UTC), Written by Tristesse
I think ur all missing the point, or atleast some of you.
Your right and am aware of the fact that this is a mmo, and just like most mmos there is "grinding" either for silver, gear or a mix.
BUT! What once ur done with grinding for the day and you want to go and put that gear to work, have some fun ... ?
That is whats missing, in most mmos there are *arenas, battlegrounds, some sort of fun pvp that is nothing more then fun.
*Imagine doing some control the zone/custom match with some friends, Arathi basin like battleground, (un)ranked arena's, world pvp with a objective like in Aion...
C'mon guys, I mean I understand some of you see a guy complaining and ur like "i will tell this person my 2 cents", but we all agree its a "grindfest" mmo thats missing some sort of fun pvp (*) content.
So many of my friends are doing nothing else then AFK fishing and playing other games bc there is nothing to do ...
Do you really want more grindspots? more new gear to chase a.k.a a more grind spot (kek)... bc that is "content" for PA ... there blind and just do there own thing.
I made this post NOT to complain, but with the hopes that they read this and who knows, there might happen a miracle and they listen.
Grz to all of you!
Um, ESO have everything you are asking for here in Spades. As long as you are not a Skill-let, you'll enjoy equalized Battlegrounds, AvAvA Alliance War where there are 300+ players doing at any time of the day. Sorry to say it, but as other people here have mentioned. BDO is the complete opposite of what you are looking for. And that is what makes BDO awesome for it's target audience. (Can be a Skill-let can be successful. Can be highly antisocial entity that just want to lord your gear over others and grief them out of the game.) It's what makes BDO magical for alot of the target audience that plays it.
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May 11, 2021, 14:35 (UTC)
# 24
On: May 11, 2021, 13:09 (UTC), Written by FearlessMe
+1 I highly agree!
Stop crying about a grinding the same NPC for 1,000s of hours in a grinder. If you want meaningful content and progression, just go play one the other MMOs that have it. BDO is perfect for the people who it was developed for. If you want anything less or more, just kick rocks and go elsewhere!
ESO, FFXIV, or WoW might be the right MMO for you. Hell if you must have a F2P MMO you can even chose shitty ArcheAge. But BDO is all about catering to people who want to play a Singleplayer MMO outside of ganking and harassing noobs. Again if you don't like it just leave. Bye Bye!
Um, ESO have everything you are asking for here in Spades. As long as you are not a Skill-let, you'll enjoy equalized Battlegrounds, AvAvA Alliance War where there are 300+ players doing at any time of the day. Sorry to say it, but as other people here have mentioned. BDO is the complete opposite of what you are looking for. And that is what makes BDO awesome for it's target audience. (Can be a Skill-let can be successful. Can be highly antisocial entity that just want to lord your gear over others and grief them out of the game.) It's what makes BDO magical for alot of the target audience that plays it.
oh shut up, we get it, you hate BDO, you think every other MMO is better, now go away and stop spamming the boards with your hate.
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May 11, 2021, 15:07 (UTC)
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I miss shadowarena. Thats was fun. Spent a lot of time there.
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# 26
On: May 11, 2021, 14:35 (UTC), Written by Werbs
oh shut up, we get it, you hate BDO, you think every other MMO is better, now go away and stop spamming the boards with your hate.
That's not what I said at all. I'm just agreeing with you guys. On the fact that OP should find a game they'd enjoy. Rather than complain and demand changes to BDO core systems. I just did it in a way that show OP their folly.
Again I personally enjoy BDO for the parts I play. I'm not going to sit here and complain about Skill-lets that are gear carried killing me. No I'm going to take a break and put BDO in the tray in build back my EGO in a MMO where geared Skill-lets can't win. BTW did you know BDO is actually one of the best MMOs to look at and make screenshots?
Seems like you got a problem with me even agreeing with you. Because of what happen on other threads. Stop acting like female who is only able to act with their emotions, and not their brain.
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May 11, 2021, 15:12 (UTC)
# 27
On: May 11, 2021, 15:07 (UTC), Written by soobad
I miss shadowarena. Thats was fun. Spent a lot of time there.
Progressing through Shadow Arena in BDO was super fun. But unfortunately these Devs couldn't allow people, who don't spend a insane amount of time and money to have fun in PvP in this game. RIP
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May 11, 2021, 15:26 (UTC)
# 28
My account is over 2 years old and i can count the times i grouped up with another player in just 1 of my hands.
I don't even know how any of my guildmates character models looks like, because there is no point of doing something together.
The only interaction i got with other people is via chat or PK.
BDO feels like it is a single player game, but for some reason it is online lol.
Playing BDO is similar to Let It Die, because all you do is solo grinding.
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May 11, 2021, 15:41 (UTC)
# 29
Let's be real here, I don't see a reason why they shouldn't add more group related content , we have enough grind spots already and with Hadum servers, they gave themselves more room to rework even more spots because there are still plenty of areas in the Calpheon territory that no1 goes to anymore or some actual competitive pvp that feels rewarding that would give them more meaningful feedback on which classes need adjustments, almost the entire playerbase wants it, it would make the game better thus making them bigger profit, hopefully, it's just a matter of time.
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May 11, 2021, 17:26 (UTC)
# 30
OP is right though, and the ones that say bdo is grindfest hell in it's core, is also right. The games main "new" content has really just been recycled things like grind spots or new classes. New grindspots dont bother me at all, nor do the items or gear that come along with it. Cause when I feel burned out from grinding theirs a thousand other things I could be doing to progress.
To be fair the core of every activity in bdo is boring, its repetitive in nature. The fun relies in progression and interaction with the thousands of other players in the world.
Correct me if I am wrong but they are coming out with more PvX content this year, The Kzarka One and the dugeon thing(?) from Sage Awakening Trailer(which is prob another grindspot tbh)
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