Put aside that shai surf skill needs to be hot bar enabled, or you have made a pointless skill, and if you do not address it, it show you only listen to the feedback*1 you wish too, or the gate keeper of the forum only pass on what they wish too –  (see video link at end)

Lahn; It has that flying skill, very powerful. I don’t know to much about it so maybe I have it wrong but... Eveytime I hit them in the air, they do not fall out the sky. So it's protected right, it’s a huge mobility skill right? Be usless to them if i could knock them out of it.

Why is shai surf not protected? You see PA, it's stuff like this that has us very confused. Have I missed something here? Or shall we allow lahn to be knocked out of the sky? I would love that :p

Looking for input from players, as GM,CM and PA will have zero to say on the subject, so we are left to guess why they want Shai to be a professional victim :P

*1) Even though at the ball you just had, you asked for even more feedback..hahah!

video (Surf issue that must be adressed, else PA is not listening at all - it will conflict with how some shai use Forward and RMB in combat, bothe PvE and PvP, meaning, it will have to be disable exept for ....hmm... Racing and RP?)

Yeah, let's give DP Shai's the ability to enter an enemy ball safely and start playing bongos XD. That would change war/siege for sure.

Dp shai is only good against under geared players. Equal level players will one combo her.

I wont be using that skill to enter a blob, even if they fix the hotbar. But this is why i kick ass in NW most the time, i can play the game.

That aside, you telling me, if a shai come zooming in and then bongos, and the blob has not managed to move out of a bongo, counter bubbled, walled, or pressured the shai before hand..OMG! Then they deserve it. 

I see shais bongoing all the time in NW, Thats when shotcaller says 'Ignore the shai',because you can (most of the time)... sure, it's an issue if they get in your base, but then we are back to my first point.

Im one shai that's never gets ignored :P and with the changes to resiste in reworks... gonna be so much fun :) sorry zerkers :P

So yeah, lets give A DP shai a protected mobility and people will have to pay attation..

P.S. forgot to say what i would use it for...

Running away :) like a lahn dose a lot of the time

Bubble's existence on DP shais dictates that protected mobility such as the surfing or say a witchard teleport should never be combined with Shai...

For a similar reason Nova's walls in succ are completely busted with regards to pushes and chokes, but even she cannot just "zoof" into a raid (awa because the swap to pre awa is too clunky, succ because not zoof enough).

Add in that most good shais are aware of how to cancel their bubble, they would also know how to cancel their surf, and you'd have surf cancel bubble cancel mass debuff/bongo engages.

Shais role is not an engage, don't try to take it away from other classes (sorcs, zerkers, valksish, staffs etc)

we have never met on the battlefield have we? I very much enage (then I chease down the zerks :P)... Some guild seems to have people set aside to deal with me, With their High acc and watching what I do ... It’s all part of the game, makes it exciting

Just because most people have used shai one way, does not mean that her purpose, it means people did not work out how best to use her even in the current form. (Some shais are catching on fast,and sometimes, it's right to jsut be a buff bot)

I would not expect the surf to have Iframe, but SA, and maybe not right at the start and finish. Like her current protections. You start to play your de buff, there is a wind up, easy to catch... you cast bongos (if you still into that) you have to cancel else you are left unprotected. Seems to be how protection are for that . I would expect no different for surf.

Bubbles are old hat, if you have a guild with good comp and knowledge. Strikers and maybe zerks (its late I forget) can grab you out of a bubble... I know the guilds we face can do this quite well. I will use a bubble to slow down a chase, slow a group or speed a party, No longer is it the holding zone or wall it used to be, it can be a wall, but that can be then down instantly if you where keeping an eye on the shai

Shai is easy to counter as is, and i can’t see a surf making it anymore difficult (at the level I explained) especially if the SA follow the es pattern of unprotected wind ups.

So what I am hearing is.. and I’m not trying to be rude. A worry of something you can't work out how to counter, or something you don’t want to have to worry about, but can be easily countered (as explained). The idea of shai having more tools available, instead of the predictable things most are now is worring... fair?

Added; Oh, seem we are at war (ingame) maybe we will meet in a GvG :)

Question

incase i have missed something here; you say bubble cancel, I’m not aware of one myself, not ashamed to say it, and I can't find info on it atm. Just want to make sure you not confusing a cancel with the invisible wall always left after casting a bubble, which shais use to debuff / stun from.. as this is not a cancel

So here is what you are saying. Shai skills are balanced around wearing dp gear in a siege setting. What about the rest of the game? Remember DP isn't something that is exclusive to Shai characters, every class can do it and most of them can do a better job. They just don't have to.

i see more shai stepping away from the buff-bot-bubbler meme and experimenting... I think this frightens people. What happen is shai become mid tier  (top tear would be hilarious, till too many reroll and realies shai still needs a team to work with, 100vs100 Shai NW !!! )

Protected long-range mobility is not something that is required in PvE

In PvP Shai has more issues than mobility if you're considering running her in standard AP builds

As for other classes, they benefit less from survivability in that they are not always a combat multiplier. Having the ability to empower 10+allies, debuff 10+ enemies, and cast one of the strongest zoning skills in the game, while not dying, is insanely valuable in a raid setting.