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PA, I challenge you to create a PVE ONLY server
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Last Edit : Apr 5, 2022, 18:14 (UTC)
# 101
On: Apr 5, 2022, 18:03 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

ROTFL, what? Party content? Nobody wants that. All party content in the game is / was DOA. Because it requires end game gear unavailable for 99% of players and gives no meaningful rewards in return. Did you want dungeon? And you have. Nobody's playing it. In every "normal" mmo, the boss at the end of the dungeon gives you something of value or ultra-value, but not in BDO. In BDO you have only 1% chance for crap acc worth 1/400 end game item. ROTFL again. Who will waste time on something like this? This is the same as stronger versions of world bosses. No one cares because it gives nothing. I got, I don't know, 25-30 boxes from these bosses. 100% 0 grade item. Muuuuhhaaa. PA thinks boss gear pri-tet has some value today. This box should always give a pri-tet item and even have a REALISTIC chance for pen.
Sorry but no one will waste time on some s. rewards (och sorry, only chance for s. rewards) worth 50-100m when end game items cost 50-100b and you get 100m from mob thrash in an hour.

Next question: where is new Belongings of an Adventurer II with new accs?

Castle ruins wants to talk to you about nobody wanting party content same with turos and oluns these are actually quite popular...

CR you can go to now with just having the pen gear from Jetina and the remainder as pen tuvuala

Last Edit : Apr 5, 2022, 19:18 (UTC)
# 102
On: Apr 5, 2022, 18:03 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

ROTFL, what? Party content? Nobody wants that. All party content in the game is / was DOA. Because it requires end game gear unavailable for 99% of players and gives no meaningful rewards in return. Did you want dungeon? And you have. Nobody's playing it. In every "normal" mmo, the boss at the end of the dungeon gives you something of value or ultra-value, but not in BDO. In BDO you have only 1% chance for crap acc worth 1/400 end game item. ROTFL again. Who will waste time on something like this? This is the same as stronger versions of world bosses. No one cares because it gives nothing. I got, I don't know, 25-30 boxes from these bosses. 100% 0 grade item. Muuuuhhaaa. PA thinks boss gear pri-tet has some value today. This box should always give a pri-tet item and even have a REALISTIC chance for pen.
Sorry but no one will waste time on some s. rewards (och sorry, only chance for s. rewards) worth 50-100m when end game items cost 50-100b and you get 100m from mob thrash in an hour.

I think you helped illustrate the points that have been made thus far. You mentioned about gear being unobtainable to the majority of the population, hence the need for an enhancement rework and PvE focused servers. You also mentioned the lack of value in rewards, again, a need for a focus on PvE content and evaluating drops. Group content being not existant or DOA... that's part of the concern around the lack of interactions. Dungeons don't have to be the be-all, end-all to the game. That's not what I am saying. But, there is nothing to really do with friends.

The most interaction I have regularly is doing Sailing daily quests... and that's one person doing everything and everyone else just chatting and riding on a boat. How can I invite my friends to play BDO? Tell them about how enhancing gear can fail, downgrade or destroy your gear? Or how about how I cannot trade anything to them other than some potions.... Or, what about how they are pretty much going to play by themselves because there is no real group content. Sure, there are boss scrolls, some daily quest activities, and you can always grind together. But, realistically, all of that is done solo. Loot is a competition in most circumstances. And, with no trading, you can't even grind for something together. 

I don't claim to have all the answers or the fix. I think small steps and improvements will help drastically. But, I really think a shift to some PvE focused activities would be the best scenario. 

On the same note, I recently did one of the guild bosses. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, I didn't get anything awesome. I didn't expect to get anything. But, it was a lot of fun to have the guild together, doing something together (other than Node Wars). 

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Last Edit : Apr 6, 2022, 07:59 (UTC)
# 104
On: Apr 5, 2022, 19:16 (UTC), Written by BlackIsleDragon

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Short story: no rewards = no fun.

How many years have we waited for the memory scrolls bosses to change?

Absolutely no one wanted to do it in the party if only the leader was getting the boss bundle. It's a little better now, but only slightly better. 

You don't have your own scrolls? It still makes no sense to you doing these bosses in party. Why? Because you don't get reward.

Typical killing of mobs also does not make sense because:

1. We have too many classes and these can differ significantly from each other

2. Party zones where everyone has their own drop requires too good items

3. You have only 5 ap / dp less than the other players, you stand out, you won't be able to cope, and getting these 5 ap is impossible because it costs a fortune (e.g. annual grind)

And nothing will ever change because the Koran people have a different mentality and do not understand that Western players must have their own version of the game the way they want.

For me, this game has not existed for a long time, until there is visible players gear progress and rewards for playing. Pointless grind does not make sense to me. So I will do new class vl 61, armour and weapons tuvala pen and back to Mass Effect Trilogy.

Last Edit : Apr 6, 2022, 10:28 (UTC)
# 105
On: Apr 6, 2022, 07:58 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Short story: no rewards = no fun.

How many years have we waited for the memory scrolls bosses to change?

Absolutely no one wanted to do it in the party if only the leader was getting the boss bundle. It's a little better now, but only slightly better. 

You don't have your own scrolls? It still makes no sense to you doing these bosses in party. Why? Because you don't get reward.

And nothing will ever change because the Koran people have a different mentality and do not understand that Western players must have their own version of the game the way they want.

For me, this game has not existed for a long time, until there is visible players gear progress and rewards for playing. Pointless grind does not make sense to me. So I will do new class vl 61, armour and weapons tuvala pen and back to Mass Effect Trilogy.

No rewards does not mean it brings fun at all.

By fun one can define it as something that keeps him/her entertained in a good and positive way by any non-specific means.

Many months ago I've decided to make scroll runs with friends. I didn't care if they had scrolls or not. I've decided to bring them regardless after reaching for them first. They accepted. And one here I am almost sure he might see my post and definetly confirm this.

Surprisingly we had our own fun and were defining a multiplayer experience. One day, if he asked me for a scroll run, I'll do the same(and ofc. whenever possible). I would not care for any game rewards, because I got a reward in a completely different way and I highly doubt it, you'll understand and also I would get my own fun.

Black Desert is and was always a game made by Koreans and they(Pearl Abyss) currently own the title. And I highly doubt it, they would sell the title to a different company, because they don't have any reasons to. Which makes it impossible for a western company to own the title. IF you don't like that fact, you can always quit the game. It won't be the end of the world.

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Last Edit : Apr 6, 2022, 11:02 (UTC)
# 107
On: Apr 6, 2022, 10:28 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs

No rewards does not mean it brings fun at all.

Each hour that follows in this game does not bring me any meaningful closer to character development. 

Enchanting is too "drastic" and the prices in market are unrealistic.

Period. End of story.

I have already written once, I will repeat: PA gave the guaranteed boss pens? I have them. I bought flame and i have fallen god armor, I will buy another one and I will have a helmet. I bought all accs tet (tungrads), black stars tet weapons and pen kutum. 

And what am I supposed to do next? I'm not going to collect 600b for pens because it will take me 10 years (or 30 years if we want to earn with life skills).

So where is fun?

I can grind if it makes sense and purpose. 

I can try bs for pen with 3% but only if there is no degradation to tri (crons are useless here because their price exceeds the value of the item).

Also I can try accs for pen but also if there is no degradation to tri (their disappearance is completely sick).

And finally: I don't see any problem with getting everything guaranteed and with items that cannot be sold.

This game for me will not end after getting 710 gs because I also want to have all manos pens. 

All mobs S knowledge, all life skills Guru x (absolutely impossible with such a zero exp), all greater marni stones, all treasures and many others games activity. 

But it cannot be achieved in the game:

1. with open pvp

2. sick enchanting system

3. no drop game.

4. and probably something else that I don't remember now.

On: Apr 6, 2022, 10:28 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs

IF you don't like that fact, you can always quit the game. It won't be the end of the world.

Which is why 99% of new players leave after a month. Because dev / publisher doesn't listen to players and ..... because by toxic players like you.

Last Edit : Apr 6, 2022, 11:19 (UTC)
# 108
On: Apr 6, 2022, 10:59 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Each hour that follows in this game does not bring me any meaningful closer to character development. 

Enchanting is too "drastic" and the prices in market are unrealistic.

Period. End of story.

I have already written once, I will repeat: PA gave the guaranteed boss pens? I have them. I bought flame and i have fallen god armor, I will buy another one and I will have a helmet. I bought all accs tet (tungrads), black stars tet weapons and pen kutum. 

And what am I supposed to do next? I'm not going to collect 600b for pens because it will take me 10 years (or 30 years if we want to earn with life skills).

So where is fun?

I can grind if it makes sense and purpose. 

I can try bs for pen with 3% but only if there is no degradation to tri (crons are useless here because their price exceeds the value of the item).

Also I can try accs for pen but also if there is no degradation to tri (their disappearance is completely sick).

And finally: I don't see any problem with getting everything guaranteed and with items that cannot be sold.

This game for me will not end after getting 710 gs because I also want to have all manos pens. 

All mobs S knowledge, all life skills Guru x (absolutely impossible with such a zero exp), all greater marni stones, all treasures and many others games activity. 

But it cannot be achieved in the game:

1. with open pvp

2. sick enchanting system

3. no drop game.

4. and probably something else that I don't remember now.

Which is why 99% of new players leave after a month. Because dev / publisher doesn't listen to players and ..... because by toxic players like you.

LOL....

Realy I just cant understand you. You hate the game, you dont see a reason to play it, but you are still here. You dont find a reason to grind, but you want every item in the game to be PEN... Do you want to log in and have every item max enchanced right away? And later you will complain that mobs kill you or you dont kill them fast enough.

Its clear that BDO is not your game. Serously why you are still hear. I mean, I dont want to be rude I just wonder. Every time I play a game and I start not to like it I just quit. I cant understand people like you. To stay all day on forums shiting on games but never leave. I want a simple explanation. What is that to makes you play a game that you clearly hate?

Last Edit : Apr 6, 2022, 11:27 (UTC)
# 109
On: Apr 6, 2022, 10:59 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Tralalala... Drun drun.

Which is why 99% of new players leave after a month. Because dev / publisher doesn't listen to players and ..... because by toxic players like you.

Toxic person with imaginary numbers, questionable math knowledge(I can never forget this joke "6=0" from you) and ethics calls the others toxic. Classic.

Last Edit : Apr 12, 2022, 20:22 (UTC)
# 110

i would say ok to that idear BUT in that way:

Arsha = 50% drop rate

Normal server = 10% drop rate ( something like that )

PVE server = 0% 

if not there wud be no reason to grind in normal server

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