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PA, I challenge you to create a PVE ONLY server
Dec 13, 2021, 14:00 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 11:33 (UTC)
# 11
On: Dec 14, 2021, 10:56 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs

I don't deny that there are those trolls you mentioned. I've seen such even myself. Happened to me too, while I left one of my own toons to afk ride from point A to point B twice or thrice(few of them trolls don't even exist anymore in the game). It was happening like once in the year not literally. But what can I do? I can't shift the game's aims and ideas. I accepted what it is and made peace with it. I've been in both pvp and pve games before(or multiplayer co-op). When I went to those games I wanted to find out, on what ideas they were made.

 

Looking sometimes at the negativism, to me it's like a pestilence. Sometimes even I react in a sharp way.

In this case, if there is a solution and it does not impact other that don’t wish to partake it in, does not give an advantage to them that wish too (e.g. Reduced drop rewards, and as with normal and arsha, life skills have always been unaffected – went over this) Then I don’t see why it should not be up for discussion.

 

Maybe it will take more resources, but that’s a worry for PA, and maybe they can look at statistics and ‘sales’ and make a best guess to, is it worth it. Maybe these life skiller spend cash in game too?

 

I was angry because you shut out the discussion without thought, based on your own personal understanding, and not looking at how other play the game.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 11:45 (UTC)
# 12
On: Dec 14, 2021, 11:33 (UTC), Written by Snoods

In this case, if there is a solution and it does not impact other that don’t wish to partake it in, does not give an advantage to them that wish too (e.g. Reduced drop rewards, and as with normal and arsha, life skills have always been unaffected – went over this) Then I don’t see why it should not be up for discussion.

 

Maybe it will take more resources, but that’s a worry for PA, and maybe they can look at statistics and ‘sales’ and make a best guess to, is it worth it. Maybe these life skiller spend cash in game too?

 

I was angry because you shut out the discussion without thought, based on your own personal understanding, and not looking at how other play the game.

No worries about it.

Another problem, which I have learned in the hard way in my past. Greed for money. And greed is a jealous friend.

Because of this way of development, people believe the game can flourish. No. Quite the opposite. I can give 1 big example.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 12:18 (UTC)
# 13
On: Dec 14, 2021, 11:45 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs

Another problem, which I have learned in the hard way in my past. Greed for money. And greed is a jealous friend.

Because of this way of development, people believe the game can flourish. No. Quite the opposite. I can give 1 big example.

You are so wise.. the games you have played the experiences you have had... very qualified. You are right 'just no' no need to justify any of your statements :)

 

Addition; the part you put in red. This has nothing to do with greed (don’t forget BDO is a business, design for profit before the game ends)… I’m point out that such players are just are valued (humanising the subject, making them relatable to you..i hoped), opinions should be respected and listen too… Then is up to PA to decide if they wish to act.

 

I am not saying, they must be listen to because they may spend cash. I’m try to show that they are no lesser than other players. But go on, I wanna hear your example

 

I ask not because I don’t think you have an example… but that it probably missing the point completely. I cant know this, I Cant know if you have a point, if you don’t state it.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 17:59 (UTC)
# 14
On: Dec 13, 2021, 14:00 (UTC), Written by Durgon8tr

There are people who will not even try this game because of PVP.  This game is awesome.  It's got everything.  I came over from WoW back when the Summer season started and the ONLY think I hate about this game (other than enhancing) is the PVP aspect.  I'm mainly a Lifeskiller and have been PK'd several times.  It's a pain in the ass and the prospect of being ganked out in the woods in my gathering gear is NO FUN!!!  Just create 1 PVE only server and you watch how fast it fills up.  I think you will be surprised at the demand.  The only people that will be agains PVE only servers are the PK'rs looking for easy targets. 

 

Its about quality of player. Not quantity..especially for a MMO. Each connection cost money, so PA needs a positive return per connection. Competitive players just spend more.

Filling up a channel with a buncha Tom, Dick, an Harrys, that cant repect the games mechanincs is not healthy for this type of game. Especially when introducing such a conveniant path of progression for free is completely against their business model. Charging for conveniance.

 

Im not looking for easy targets..Heck my main was a DK. So ur just wrong. Im against it because the type of players such a channel would attract are the type that fail to respect what the game is now, so would only make it far more difficult to push the game in the direction we were promised on sign up. On open world game with involuntary pk.

Id prefer more quality players that paid more, and drove competition, then a greater quantity of players fishing, kill stealing and taking up a whole another channel that should be dedicated to more competitve elvia realms.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 18:07 (UTC)
# 15
On: Dec 14, 2021, 17:59 (UTC), Written by Kynreaa

 

Its about quality of player. Not quantity..especially for a MMO. Each connection cost money, so PA needs a positive return per connection. Competitive players just spend more.

Filling up a channel with a buncha Tom, Dick, an Harrys, that cant repect the games mechanincs is not healthy for this type of game. Especially when introducing such a conveniant path of progression for free is completely against their business model. Charging for conveniance.

 

Im not looking for easy targets..Heck my main was a DK. So ur just wrong. Im against it because the type of players such a channel would attract are the type that fail to respect what the game is now, so would only make it far more difficult to push the game in the direction we were promised on sign up. On open world game with involuntary pk.

Id prefer more quality players that paid more, and drove competition, then a greater quantity of players fishing, kill stealing and taking up a whole another channel that should be dedicated to more competitve elvia realms.

Meanwhile, the most profitable/successful MMO's in NA/Europe make most of their money off of Costmetics and Quality of Life features. You can only bleed a certain time of player base so much, it's time to expand providing new opportunities for cash flow.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 18:14 (UTC)
# 16
On: Dec 14, 2021, 18:07 (UTC), Written by Josiah

Meanwhile, the most profitable/successful MMO's in NA/Europe make most of their money off of Costmetics and Quality of Life features. You can only bleed a certain time of player base so much, it's time to expand providing new opportunities for cash flow.

 

Those were built differently. Completely differently.

Could PA have done better..yep. Will just flicking off the open world Pk button solve the games problems? Nope. It will take A whole alot more to get this game in the state of those other games you are talking about..ALOT more.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 18:22 (UTC)
# 17
On: Dec 14, 2021, 17:59 (UTC), Written by Kynreaa

 

Its about quality of player. Not quantity..especially for a MMO. Each connection cost money, so PA needs a positive return per connection. Competitive players just spend more.

This is BS.

PA actually force players to run the game 24/7 hence burn that connection money you speek for no benefit for them.

 

Running a gameserver is dirt cheap. It's literately so cheap compared to how much money they make on it that it's pointless to even talk about it.

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Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 18:47 (UTC)
# 18
On: Dec 14, 2021, 18:22 (UTC), Written by CatDK

This is BS.

PA actually force players to run the game 24/7 hence burn that connection money you speek for no benefit for them.

 

Running a gameserver is dirt cheap. It's literately so cheap compared to how much money they make on it that it's pointless to even talk about it.

Its cheap because each player is currently paid in full for possibly the next 15 years thanx to whales.

PA starts getting a massive influx of players freemieuming their way to 700 GS, then its gonna be a problem.

 

The first channel gets full instantly then what? whats the next demand? convert more right? Players already have issues finding grind spots in elvia channels. So take away more regular channels, or create more..that cost $$$. $$ they wont ever see a return on, unless they charge manditory monthly fees..which everyone has made known they hate.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 19:14 (UTC)
# 19
On: Dec 14, 2021, 18:41 (UTC), Written by Kynreaa

Its cheap because each player is currently paid in full for possibly the next 15 years thanx to whales.

PA starts getting a massive influx of players freemieuming their way to 700 GS, then its gonna be a problem.

 

The first channel gets full instantly then what? whats the next demand? convert more right? Players already have issues finding grind spots in elvia channels. So take away more regular channels, or create more..that cost $$. $ they wont ever see a return on, unless they charge manditory monthly fees..which everyone has made known they hate.

That's not how getting players in a game works. If it would be this easy to just give muh 700gs to everyone, then every game would do that.

But that isn't helping. Giving away free gear help keeping the players on the short term, but on the long term it destroys the game.

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Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 19:27 (UTC)
# 20
On: Dec 14, 2021, 19:14 (UTC), Written by CatDK

That's not how getting players in a game works. If it would be this easy to just give muh 700gs to everyone, then every game would do that.

But that isn't helping. Giving away free gear help keeping the players on the short term, but on the long term it destroys the game.

 

You misunderstood what i typed. I didnt say PA would give out free 700gs, I said people would abuse all the free aspects of the game trying to get to 700 gs. "freemium playstyle". Fishing everywhere, kill stealing with impunity, Boats parked everywhere, horse trainers running amuk, just a solid mess. A virus that would demand a channel for every 4 players in a grind spot.

Thats not healthy for a game where the whole business practice is charging for conveniance. I agree, giving out such conveniant paths of progression would destroy the game.

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