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PA, I challenge you to create a PVE ONLY server
Dec 13, 2021, 14:00 (UTC)
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# 21
On: Dec 13, 2021, 16:33 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Or this bastards call for help others like them. 

Only complete removal of open pvp can remove toxicity from this game.

On: Dec 13, 2021, 14:00 (UTC), Written by Durgon8tr

There are people who will not even try this game because of PVP.  This game is awesome.  It's got everything.  I came over from WoW back when the Summer season started and the ONLY think I hate about this game (other than enhancing) is the PVP aspect.  I'm mainly a Lifeskiller and have been PK'd several times.  It's a pain in the ass and the prospect of being ganked out in the woods in my gathering gear is NO FUN!!!  Just create 1 PVE only server and you watch how fast it fills up.  I think you will be surprised at the demand.  The only people that will be agains PVE only servers are the PK'rs looking for easy targets. 

On: Dec 13, 2021, 15:08 (UTC), Written by Luchina

If you are a lifeskiller and get ganked, just respawn and continue. PKers suffer a huge karma loss everytime they kill a lifeskiller.

 

And if you encounter a perma red player ganking you over and over, just ask server chat for help and I bet more than enough people would love to smack some red buttcheeks.

There are lots of PKers & Open World PVP because Being the BEST PVP MMOrpg game, PA hasn't provided any good PVP system & way to make good money from PVP.
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=18736

here i strongly said how this will keep the world of PVE & PVP players in Check. 
being a PVP game, BDO has supported PVE alot.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2021, 21:37 (UTC)
# 22

People have already mentioned some of the problems that would arise in such a server. Kill stealing, crowded grind spots etc. It also doesn't help how much this game focuses on solo play in the open world. There are several things that'd have to change in order for a lasting pve server to run decently. 

That being said, I'm actually surprised you got PKed while lifeskilling. PK outse of grind spots is pretty rare, that’s my experience anyway. I suggest channel switching in cases like that. 

Last Edit : Dec 15, 2021, 11:40 (UTC)
# 23
On: Dec 14, 2021, 20:35 (UTC), Written by Awgust

There are lots of PKers & Open World PVP because Being the BEST PVP MMOrpg game, PA hasn't provided any good PVP system & way to make good money from PVP.
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=18736

here i strongly said how this will keep the world of PVE & PVP players in Check. 
being a PVP game, BDO has supported PVE alot.

We stop complaining about pvp once pvp players stop complaining about karmabombing.

Anyway I have a statement from the GM of this game: karmabombing is legal

So easy: forced pvp = karmabombing as a defense. Deal with it.

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Last Edit : Dec 15, 2021, 11:53 (UTC)
# 24
On: Dec 15, 2021, 11:38 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

We stop complaining about pvp once pvp players stop complaining about karmabombing.

Anyway I have a statement from the GM of this game: karmabombing is legal

So easy: forced pvp = karmabombing as a defense. Deal with it.

Another statement from the GM - BDO is PvP game
Deal with it.

Last Edit : Dec 15, 2021, 12:19 (UTC)
# 25

All this "overcrowded grind spots" and "5 people in the same rotation" stuff is not an argument against a PVE server, it's an acceptance that that server would be very popular and, in fact, an argument for making the majority of the servers PVE only.

I don't pretend to know the hearts of the corporate number crunchers, but I'd imagine there is some reason that the every channel group's #6 was pvp outside safe zones got changed to Arsha only with bribe mechanics to get anyone to play on it.

 

Last Edit : Dec 15, 2021, 12:27 (UTC)
# 26
On: Dec 14, 2021, 20:35 (UTC), Written by Awgust

There are lots of PKers & Open World PVP because Being the BEST PVP MMOrpg game, PA hasn't provided any good PVP system & way to make good money from PVP.
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=18736

here i strongly said how this will keep the world of PVE & PVP players in Check. 
being a PVP game, BDO has supported PVE alot.

 

How can BDO objectively be the best pvP MMORPG, when there are PvE oriented MMORPGs, that have much healthier PvP scenes? Objectively speaking by the way Eve Online is the best PvP MMORPG. In a hour of Eve more PvP happens there then in a week of BDO. 

 

Also again I find it funny that a PvP game will force a player to spend thousands of hours grinding PvE. Before they can be viable in PvP. Sounds more like a grinder than a PvP game like Mortal Online, Eve Online, CS:GO, DOTA2, LoL, Smite, ect. Can't even really call BDO a PvE MMORPG either because that is neither the focus of BDO either. 

 

Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it!

Last Edit : Dec 15, 2021, 12:46 (UTC)
# 27
On: Dec 15, 2021, 11:53 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Another statement from the GM - BDO is PvP game
Deal with it.

FALSE. BDO it cannot and is not a pvp game because pvp does not work here (core game).

Each mmo = pvp game. EACH. But in typical mmo pvp is separate from pve, and that's good.

BDO contains huge pvp content:
- conquest war

- node war

- rbf

- team battle

- arena of arsha

- arsha channel.

So there are absolutely no arguments for making forced pvp in the game. Especially since it's the main cause of the game's toxicity and causes up to 99% of new players to leave the game.

Last Edit : Dec 15, 2021, 13:13 (UTC)
# 28
On: Dec 15, 2021, 12:46 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

FALSE. BDO it cannot and is not a pvp game because pvp does not work here (core game).

Each mmo = pvp game. EACH. But in typical mmo pvp is separate from pve, and that's good.

BDO contains huge pvp content:
- conquest war

- node war

- rbf

- team battle

- arena of arsha

- arsha channel.

So there are absolutely no arguments for making forced pvp in the game. Especially since it's the main cause of the game's toxicity and causes up to 99% of new players to leave the game.

Its devs words, not mine. I describe BDO as PvPvE.

About your statement about forced pvp. Well yo uare wrong. Many ppl play BDO exactly for open world pvp. And no there is not such tings as pvp is separated in typical mmo. Because you played one mmo that had separated pvp, doesnt make it typical.

Open world pvp is core mode of BDO. It should not be removed. I said it may times, I will again. Making changes to core modes usualy leads to destroing the game. Looke what happened with New World... Saying this Im strongly agains Arsha too. BDO should stay the way it is on normal servers PvPvE. But I gues the new server modes will give you what you want... I hope they wont have negative impact.

EDIT: Also toxicity is due to player, not the game mode. The owpvp is great when done with people who accnowledge that owpvp is the game. We had and have great time.

Last Edit : Dec 15, 2021, 16:00 (UTC)
# 29
On: Dec 15, 2021, 13:04 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Looke what happened with New World...

What happened? 1 million players on premiere. 99% with pvp off. 99% solo content.

But Amazon can't do mmo so without end game content, copy money and item bugs and stupid channel limit with char tied to the channel game "died" after 3 months.

ESO also had a tough start and after a year it was one of the most popular mmo, of course ESO = no forced pvp and almost all content = solo.

If ESO did not have a hidden mandatory subscription, no one would have played in BDO a long time ago.

 

Last Edit : Dec 15, 2021, 17:30 (UTC)
# 30
On: Dec 15, 2021, 15:55 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

What happened? 1 million players on premiere. 99% with pvp off. 99% solo content.

But Amazon can't do mmo so without end game content, copy money and item bugs and stupid channel limit with char tied to the channel game "died" after 3 months.

ESO also had a tough start and after a year it was one of the most popular mmo, of course ESO = no forced pvp and almost all content = solo.

If ESO did not have a hidden mandatory subscription, no one would have played in BDO a long time ago.

 

Ooh boy... New World was crap after removing PvP. Many testers said that the game has no purpose and the devs had to delay it again to make it well just a next casual mmo. And now? How many players left? And all videos I see on you tube are either PvP or why the game fails... most of them gameplay fails, which kinda proves my point.

ESO... well no, subscribtion is not the only reason why people prefer BDO over ESO. Add the crappy combat system, no challenging PvP, lag in Cyrodil, constant change in meta, etc etc. To be hones ESO I had realy great hope for ESO, but got disapointed. I try to play this game many times but its just crap... the hell they event cant make proper character movement.

BDO is what it is, and most players are play the game for that reason. Its not the game problem that you dont like it.

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