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PA, I challenge you to create a PVE ONLY server
Dec 13, 2021, 14:00 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Mar 31, 2022, 15:58 (UTC)
# 51
On: Mar 31, 2022, 15:52 (UTC), Written by CaptainCourage

And how would you be able to earn more if a player totally outgrinds you, leaving you no mobs to kill ?

If a player kills you with 2 hits, don't you think he will also vastly outperform you at the mob killing race ?

I predict that his answer will be: "Mobs are not your private property." :)

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2022, 16:03 (UTC)
# 52
On: Mar 31, 2022, 14:08 (UTC), Written by Alphaeus

Exactly, NA needs a 7th channel on all the clusters, and EU needs a 7th and 8th if not a 9th due to their population.  Which is why the vast majority of people are against the PvE server suggestion. 

Personally I would like to see a full Arsha cluster, 5 Arsha servers and only one of them with a monthly ranking/point total like RBF has giving out some stupid prize at the end of every month like 100 crons and a title, make that the only drop bonus server, but I know that is not going to happen and even if it did it would convert existing clusters not add more clusters.


On the contrary, the vast majority want PvE servers, it's just the people remaining (and chatting on the forums) are divided between either not wanting them or wanting them but making sure it's not going to be a contested overgrindzone for PvE stuff.

The truth is that PA can fix this to appeal to everyone and the thought that "BDO is now PvE friendly" would attract SOOO many new players and bring back returning players. In fact, I would argue it would be more profitable than their current model because people would be more willing to buy outfits and other things just because they can see themselves dedicate more time to the game.

PvE servers isn't just about going out to grind mobs over and over again, it's to do things at your leisure, without worry or stress. It's to just hop on your donkey or horse and take in the sights more casually, have fun on a boat or do roleplay activities. It's to be able to take part of events in PvP enabled zones without being griefed (remember halloween?) and to fish wherever you feel like fishing.

Yes, there is the downside that a lot of people will play there but isn't that proving you wrong? That a lot of people would want this? Wouldn't that mean we would want more PvE servers and perhaps even instanced grind spots? People don't need to have super high level characters but they can if they want to and they can pick which server to go to with or without PvP and perhaps one day we'll have instanced grind zones like they keep talking about.

I personally enjoyed the existing PvE servers during the time I was allowed on them and it changed my outlook on this game, so much so that I spent another $200 on it. I know PA is eyeing PvE solutions because they know that they could make a lot more money this way. Nobody would be forced to play on those servers and if you don't want to deal with outgrinding each other if that is a problem. But they can rectify this with instanced grind spots and they will start with 1hr daily instanced grind spots next week I think.

Tell me again how optional PvE servers are a bad thing?

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2022, 19:37 (UTC)
# 53
On: Mar 31, 2022, 15:52 (UTC), Written by CaptainCourage

And how would you be able to earn more if a player totally outgrinds you, leaving you no mobs to kill ?

If a player kills you with 2 hits, don't you think he will also vastly outperform you at the mob killing race ?

Because 700 gs p2w noobs don't play ash forest, crypt, olun or gyfin where is their place but they play where they kill mobs 10 times faster, thanks to which they earn more from thrash. Which is why this game is so pathetic. 

And people like you don't understand that bdo is simple math: 10 ap / 10 dp / 10 evasion more and you have no chances because you don't even hit that person. You still don't understand that there are classes that can use 5 skills in 2 seconds and classes that can use ... half skill in 2 seconds. Is this supposed to be a balance?

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2022, 19:47 (UTC)
# 54
On: Mar 31, 2022, 19:37 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Because 700 gs p2w noobs don't play ash forest, crypt, olun or gyfin where is their place but they play where they kill mobs 10 times faster, thanks to which they earn more from thrash. Which is why this game is so pathetic. 

And people like you don't understand that bdo is simple math: 10 ap / 10 dp / 10 evasion more and you have no chances because you don't even hit that person. You still don't understand that there are classes that can use 5 skills in 2 seconds and classes that can use ... half skill in 2 seconds. Is this supposed to be a balance?

You do know your in the class of new , so technically you a noob stop insulting people for no reason. 

Obviously you dont know that the classes that use 5 skills in 2 seconds actually have a lot less damage with the exception of two classes. If your are going to start point digs at least know what your talking about. Im supprised gms havent chat banned you from the forums for abusing parts of the community with petty names.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2022, 20:50 (UTC)
# 55
On: Mar 31, 2022, 15:24 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

I want money too, but I can't earn them because outgeared players / classes kill me with 2 hits.

I can't also earn money from life skills because: 

1. Life skill generate only 1/10 what trash from mobs gives

2. I am attacked while wearing life skill items and on afk activity.

Because you want to go on the best spot without being able to defend your presence. 
And unless you're awfully inefficient in your grind, there are many other spots to make money. Aaaah yes, I know, if you can't grind on the best spots, it's not worth it. 

This

Is

Not

A

Themepark. 

In BDO, you don't go from spot to spot simply because you meet a gear requirement. 

Moreover, if you get 2-shot in a pvpve context, you'd probably get outgrinded in a pve context. Ironically, your best shot is precisely the idea of the a 1-hour personal area, so be happy, BDO is bringing the best for you! XD

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2022, 21:11 (UTC)
# 56
On: Mar 31, 2022, 16:03 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost


On the contrary, the vast majority want PvE servers, it's just the people remaining (and chatting on the forums) are divided between either not wanting them or wanting them but making sure it's not going to be a contested overgrindzone for PvE stuff.

The truth is that PA can fix this to appeal to everyone and the thought that "BDO is now PvE friendly" would attract SOOO many new players and bring back returning players. In fact, I would argue it would be more profitable than their current model because people would be more willing to buy outfits and other things just because they can see themselves dedicate more time to the game.

PvE servers isn't just about going out to grind mobs over and over again, it's to do things at your leisure, without worry or stress. It's to just hop on your donkey or horse and take in the sights more casually, have fun on a boat or do roleplay activities. It's to be able to take part of events in PvP enabled zones without being griefed (remember halloween?) and to fish wherever you feel like fishing.

Yes, there is the downside that a lot of people will play there but isn't that proving you wrong? That a lot of people would want this? Wouldn't that mean we would want more PvE servers and perhaps even instanced grind spots? People don't need to have super high level characters but they can if they want to and they can pick which server to go to with or without PvP and perhaps one day we'll have instanced grind zones like they keep talking about.

I personally enjoyed the existing PvE servers during the time I was allowed on them and it changed my outlook on this game, so much so that I spent another $200 on it. I know PA is eyeing PvE solutions because they know that they could make a lot more money this way. Nobody would be forced to play on those servers and if you don't want to deal with outgrinding each other if that is a problem. But they can rectify this with instanced grind spots and they will start with 1hr daily instanced grind spots next week I think.

Tell me again how optional PvE servers are a bad thing?

No proof of the vast majority you speak of, as usual. Devs know better than you which game they want to create, and they showed us that they're quite efficient when it comes to make players give money. If there's no regular pure pve after all this time, that's an answer in itself. 

And no, this cute paradise is not what will happen. The pve don't deserve to be sacrificed for your utopia, and all the chill activities you mentioned can be done with a level 49.

And there's already one answer to your last question in the previous page. I can also add the additional work to maintain a regular pure pve version of the game, with the expectations it would create.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2022, 06:49 (UTC)
# 57
On: Mar 31, 2022, 19:46 (UTC), Written by Kenshin210

You do know your in the class of new , so technically you a noob stop insulting people for no reason. 

Obviously you dont know that the classes that use 5 skills in 2 seconds actually have a lot less damage with the exception of two classes. If your are going to start point digs at least know what your talking about. Im supprised gms havent chat banned you from the forums for abusing parts of the community with petty names.

Muuuuhahahaaa. So tell us, why you play as Kunoichi / Lahn main chars? Muuhahahaaa.

Show me how you kill (open pvp, not war) hundreds of players playing as Archer - class without grab, almost none protection, almost none cc, 3 sec casting skills, no class melee damage bonus protection, with the lowest number of hp of all classes.

I have all classes and I know what they can do. 

I can fight vs guardian which is just as slow as archer but guardian is 24/7 protecion class.

Give me range grab from 10 km such as berserker or lahn have, I will stop complaining.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2022, 08:53 (UTC)
# 58
On: Apr 1, 2022, 06:26 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Muuuuhahahaaa. So tell us, why you play as Kunoichi / Lahn main chars? Muuhahahaaa.

Show me how you kill (open pvp, not war) hundreds of players playing as Archer - class without grab, almost none protection, almost none cc, 3 sec casting skills, no class melee damage bonus protection, with the lowest number of hp of all classes.

I have all classes and I know what they can do. 

I can fight vs guardian which is just as slow as archer but guardian is 24/7 protecion class.

Give me range grab from 10 km such as berserker or lahn have, I will stop complaining.

Ermm you know i play more than two classes ... I think you need to check the classes i have played... Just a fyi the lahn was actually copied exp from succ nova ...

Oh an kunoichi i play awaken not succession. I played kuno before you even started bdo . I played since sausan days . Oh wait you wont know what that is because you're to new to the game to know anything about before kama. 

Awaken Kuno has always been my main even well she was dog. Bet you think i played succession because your so delusional. There is clips on my you tube account of pre rework me grinding on kuno . Please support.. oh wait im not a streamer nvm. And yes i know you were implying i play succession kuno because it is a  fotm

For reference your whinging of archer is hilarious knowing he can stand on a roof top with a ranger and any range class remove people from rbf or any mass pvp . You do know your a range class.In node war guess which is the classes picking off players who arent following the ball? Do you even know your role in NW considering you whine about pvp . Im supprised you even bring that up.

If you think you need awaken kunos protection cool go for it can have her damage . Wont improve you though because you dont even know your role in siege or in the game kinda funny you troll constantly, but do not have enough braincells to have a full look at someones list of characters.Plus awaken kuno would make you actually have to learn instead of spamming about your life story of hating on pvp. Btw if you had said witch fine . I deleted her because of a multitude of reasons.  Remember the number beside a char level means nothing if you havent met them in game.

Also complaining about protections well having one of the highest burst damage in game kinda seems ignorant.

For you Mr archer , Kuno pre rework:

https://youtu.be/BPLh-c8aY50

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2022, 08:30 (UTC)
# 59
On: Apr 1, 2022, 06:26 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Muuuuhahahaaa. So tell us, why you play as Kunoichi / Lahn main chars? Muuhahahaaa.

Show me how you kill (open pvp, not war) hundreds of players playing as Archer - class without grab, almost none protection, almost none cc, 3 sec casting skills, no class melee damage bonus protection, with the lowest number of hp of all classes.

I have all classes and I know what they can do. 

I can fight vs guardian which is just as slow as archer but guardian is 24/7 protecion class.

Give me range grab from 10 km such as berserker or lahn have, I will stop complaining.

By the way if you think protections mean anything except for iframes you need to put your trainer wheels back on, considering there is to much damage in game for FG's to be worth using and SA's you can be melted through by nearly everyone when trading.Also if you think FGs/SAs will save you in node war show me a clip of any class thats using a SA not being blown up before doing damage. But you know. You do you . Guess being bad aint that bad right?

Edit: if you played all the classes properly why is your profile hidden completely , let me guess you got to level 60 an called it a day and act like you played them properly?

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2022, 08:38 (UTC)
# 60
Écrit le : 31 mars 2022, 19:37 (UTC), par : Senemedar

Because 700 gs p2w noobs don't play ash forest, crypt, olun or gyfin where is their place but they play where they kill mobs 10 times faster, thanks to which they earn more from thrash. Which is why this game is so pathetic. 

And people like you don't understand that bdo is simple math: 10 ap / 10 dp / 10 evasion more and you have no chances because you don't even hit that person. You still don't understand that there are classes that can use 5 skills in 2 seconds and classes that can use ... half skill in 2 seconds. Is this supposed to be a balance?

You might feel relieved from your rant, but you totally and intentionnally dodged my question. We are not talking about balance, which is another question debated in other threads and where yes, there is work to do, but settings. But that's ok, the frustration accumulated by achieving the downvotes record of the forum surely must find some kind of catharsis. By the way, if players earn more on a specific spot, well, one can guess that it's where they're supposed to be.

So let's get back on track : You want PVE servers because you supposedly can't grind in peace in PvX settings. Fine.

Considering BDO's past and current balance and systems, regarding gear gaps as much as class balance or loot sharing which are not prone to change, if a player comes to your spot in a pure PVE server and starts ougrinding you, leaving you with nothing to grind, how does it improve your situation compared to a PVX setting where he would just have killed you first ?

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