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The Reason Why So Many People Quit and Comeback Only to Quit Again and Why This Will not Change
Dec 22, 2021, 21:42 (UTC)
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# 11
On: Dec 23, 2021, 18:16 (UTC), Written by Columba

Not everyone celebrates or appreciates the Christian holiday.   there are many other religions.

Christmas is the only true religion

Last Edit : Dec 23, 2021, 20:17 (UTC)
# 12

I agree with many of the reasons given by people in this post about why people quit bdo. I have not played for quite a while but still come to the forum occasionally. I will not return to bdo until they create some permanent pve servers. If that never hapoens I will never play again.

Last Edit : Dec 24, 2021, 15:55 (UTC)
# 13

Well it's the gear that is the problem
When they add free gear all the players cry when they leave a big gap on gear players cry i mean... :D

Last Edit : Dec 25, 2021, 03:44 (UTC)
# 14

The game just isn't rewarding to play. Some of us have been playing since 2014 because we're masochists. It doesn't matter how much free stuff you hand out, the overall game will be stale quick for a lot of people. The only reason it's still going is because the combat is one of the best MMO's have seen problem is the classes are janky, some filled with useless skills, others taking 20 different skills just to combo correctly.

 

There is no cohesion. No real reward. You grind to "progress", troll in game chat, and wait for a new FOTM class to reroll into and spend an ungodly amount of money.

Last Edit : Dec 29, 2021, 19:55 (UTC)
# 15

I think ppl mainly leave and quit, because PA makes big effort to make BDO game for everything, check all the boxes. Thus not delivering a good result and ppl getting tired of it quickly and leave for other games where its fresh, new and exciting.

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Last Edit : Dec 30, 2021, 02:23 (UTC)
# 16
On: Dec 22, 2021, 23:11 (UTC), Written by AwakenedKuno

Players quit BDO because....

 

No content... 

 

P2W....

 

You need to stay logged in and leave your PC running overnight.....

 

Insane Gear requirements to be able to PVP.....

 

Existence of other better MMOs.....

No content... 

Tons of content.

P2W....

Not really P2W, it takes Tens of thousands of dollars to get a minor advantage via the pearl store.

You need to stay logged in and leave your PC running overnight.....

Actually no you don't need to do anything AFK, If I leave my Computer on for 8 hours when I sleep AFK fishing, sell all the fish and relics, then leave it on all day while at work for another 8 hours AFK fishing and sell all those fish and relics, I make maybe 50m silver.  I can make 50m silver in 20 minutes at any Valencia spot with no agris or loot scroll.  

Insane Gear requirements to be able to PVP.....

You kinda almost have a point, but not really, since there is seasonal Arsha AND capped nodewars and sieges.  If they add Trial only RBFs (really they should), then any claim to the insane gear requirements would be gone.

Existence of other better MMOs.....

Name them, also why are you here if there are other better MMOs, shouldn't you be playing them?

Last Edit : Dec 30, 2021, 02:38 (UTC)
# 17
On: Dec 23, 2021, 06:09 (UTC), Written by EgoAdAstra

Strap yourselves in for a long one. As you go through my throughts, on why BDO can't keep players interested for long periods.

 

I personally believe BDO can't hold players for long term. Because the developers believe fun content, should be something that you have to struggle to get to. Most of the fun content in BDO will take most players years to arrive at. Which makes it a niche game that only sadists and masochists can truly enjoy.

 

If you look at the more popular MMOs. You'll noticed they'll thrust the players into the deep end of fun content really quickly. In BDO it's cost around 120 Billion sliver in gear to start having fun competeting by most gamers standards. Which the average players could more than likely make a average of 175 million sliver in hour. Which comes to around 685 hours of pure grinding just to have fun not being complete fodder.(At this point you are still fodder. Just not complete fodder.)  Most other MMOs will charge their playerbases less then 30 hours to start having fun being competitive.

 

Then you have the other point. Where BDO consistently disregard your effort and time spent playing. You could be grinding hard to try to make gains and what not for months. Only to see someone in game just show up and One Tap 4 PEN boss gear, 8 TET Manos accessories, get 2 vells hearts, and one karanda hearts to drop. In like 15 hours of playtime into their gameplay. Most gamers leave the unfair and bias nature of IRL to play games. Not leave one unfair system to join another one. Making such game niche. (Meaning by very nature, it will not hold many gamers attention for long.)

 

Which in most MMOs would not be a huge issue. Except in BDO it means they can drop your guild. Go to a higher tier guild then can proceed to OHKO PK you at grind spots. Which further rubs it in to your face. Which to most MMO players who are not codependent on BDO is demoralizing. To the point BDO would be lucky if these players just visit BDO for the seasons.

 

Then you have the last point. Why would you play a punishing stat based RNG Solo grinder griefing based MMO. When you and your friends can play another MMO. And have fun with supporting each other most of the way through. Where you have heavy social aspects like emotes, dances, heavy amounts of cosmetics to get immersed in your character. Where you can choose to enter PvP or not. Where BDO has none of this.

 

Bottomline is most gamers come to games to have fun. Not be forced to work another job after coming home for hundreds of hours just to get to the fun. That's not going to hold many gamers interest in BDO. More so when other MMOs are giving gamers more for much less effort and struggle. Which means BDO is one of those games that target masochist and sadist gamers.

 

That just my two cent on the matter. The last 12 months are a indication that the Devs kinda see it this way too. Which is why they are adding more quaility of life changes. To make BDO more for the majority of mainstream gamers. But in my opinion they still have a long way to go. When titles like FFXIV, ESO, and GW2 exist. At least here in the West.

If you look at the more popular MMOs. You'll noticed they'll thrust the players into the deep end of fun content really quickly. In BDO it's cost around 120 Billion sliver in gear to start having fun competeting by most gamers standards. Which the average players could more than likely make a average of 175 million sliver in hour. Which comes to around 685 hours of pure grinding just to have fun not being complete fodder.(At this point you are still fodder. Just not complete fodder.)  Most other MMOs will charge their playerbases less then 30 hours to start having fun being competitive.


No, that is actually wrong, you don't need to be at end game to "enjoy the content", Personally I enjoy the content that is not "end game" more than the "end game" content in BDO.  Unlike other games where you need to get through the first 100 levels because the first 100 levels are boring and has zero content, BDO gives you content from level 1 you can do, and you can stay at leve 49 forever and have tons to enjoy.  Other games even after you hit level 100, you have to get all legendary gear with perfect rolls after hundreds upon hundreds of "speeeeeed" runs to get to mythical level dungeons that you then "speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed" run until you get full mythical gear that has perfect rolls, so you can "speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed" run the mythical level 2, and so on, then they release an "expansion" 2 years later that turns all your hyper mythical legendary supercharged pogchamp gear into gear that is worse than grey level gear in the expansion, just so you can run all those dungeons, mythical, super legendary mythical, and godlike dungeons again with just a slight varriation.  Those other MMOs "end game" are even less fun because unlike in BDO you stand around in the capital cities for hours on end for a dungeon group to form because no one wants to be the "ultra mega rare, super necessary" class due to how boring said class is.  

 

People say BDO Has no content, then they point to this MMO or that MMO and say see they have "Dungeons" that take hours to find a group for.  Other MMOs should really be MMQS (massive multiplayer queue simulator) games instead.  Sorry but you are completely wrong here, and if you do feel that BDO has no content, why are YOU here?

 

Then you have the other point. Where BDO consistently disregard your effort and time spent playing. You could be grinding hard to try to make gains and what not for months. Only to see someone in game just show up and One Tap 4 PEN boss gear, 8 TET Manos accessories, get 2 vells hearts, and one karanda hearts to drop. In like 15 hours of playtime into their gameplay. Most gamers leave the unfair and bias nature of IRL to play games. Not leave one unfair system to join another one. Making such game niche. (Meaning by very nature, it will not hold many gamers attention for long.)

 

This account only exists on reddit where people lie about their "progression" constantly.

 

Last Edit : Dec 30, 2021, 02:38 (UTC)
# 18

Actually a terrible inconsistent position by the OP. First you go on about progression and then condemn BD because it actually has real progression. Sorry this is another thinly veiled QQ that "I lost to a gear score monkey". BDO has everything you mentioned and better than every other MMO game out there. You like vertical progression to kick others butts? ya get 725 GS its there, you want gear score regulated node wars that option is there, like a Battle ground play? its there, like to earn your progression not fighting monsters or doing raids bdo more option that every mmo put together, from gathering, to horse racing, to bartering, to trading to enhancing. you like to prance around with your special title and outfit? BDO gots that also and many many options.

 

The one thing BDO really needs badly is a gear equalized battle ground and more group based content that rewards for playing with people.

 

So bzzt sorry bad post just a disguised whine from another generic player who is whining they lost to better geared people and who are stuck on stupid only following guides to min max silver per hour to determine how they will play the game, instead of just playing the game having fun and not worrying about your silver per hour its a you fault not a game fault and no other mmos do any of it any better with more options except for the group play which is important but not what the OP complained about.

Last Edit : Dec 30, 2021, 02:43 (UTC)
# 19
On: Dec 25, 2021, 03:44 (UTC), Written by Misren

The game just isn't rewarding to play. Some of us have been playing since 2014 because we're masochists. It doesn't matter how much free stuff you hand out, the overall game will be stale quick for a lot of people. The only reason it's still going is because the combat is one of the best MMO's have seen problem is the classes are janky, some filled with useless skills, others taking 20 different skills just to combo correctly.

 

There is no cohesion. No real reward. You grind to "progress", troll in game chat, and wait for a new FOTM class to reroll into and spend an ungodly amount of money.

See these same type of empty comments alot. I mean what exactly is a "real reward" like please provide some example of another mmorpg where it has "real rewards" grinding raids in wow or FF14 is real rewrds? picking up rocks and logs is better in what game? Like not saying your comment is not valid it just says nothing its a hollow complaint because you didnt even define what you think aa real reward is....like what game do you not grind something to progress lol??? Its literally the ENTIRE POINT OF RPG GAMES, you complete content to improve and progress your character.... its like complaining you have to aim when you play COD....its a shooter its the entire point of the gameplay man come on.

Last Edit : Dec 30, 2021, 15:51 (UTC)
# 20

Dears,
i Agree 100% with what the OP is saying and i just want to add something from my experience with BDO.

I'm playing since BDO closed beta (2014) and i remember the hype when it was announced.

Awesome graphics with beautifull combat mechs that i couldn't wait the release.

Since then, many times i quitted and many times i came back to this game at the point i reached more than 10 thousand hours.

I always hoped that PA would add more content and more ways to get a competitive gear for PVP or PVE to make the game actually fun.

But this never happened. Even with the new echanting system, still, i have to face a grind wall i cannot bear.

In 7 years i never get really into PVP, because i know i'm already screwed since my equip is not enough and the game is all about PVP.

I don't want something easy of course, but at least i want some fun worth of my time spent.

Honestly, looking back i feel like i waisted my time. I kept playing because i hoped and i'm still hoping that the game will be good one day, but this left me with nothing.

It's just a endless grinding spot where all you can do is running in circles facing the same issues over and over. This is my life already and i don't want a game proposing me the same.

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