15 to 18 hours (estimate, as I take brakes), 2 embers.. Running blue scroll (+100 drop rate), when i force me self to do an hour straight, +50% tent buff (rare that I do, more that 15mins grinds is hard work).
293k AP. +18% ecology, +3% pet, node was level 10 for the first 12 to 15 hours(estimate, as I take brakes), , then i dropped it, it’s now back up to 4.
No belts, less than 100 chapras I would say. I know this seems imposable, but these are the result of a burst grinders (grinds for 10-15 then rest) in a group zone.
Cant group up (not explaining why, just how it is)

The feedback is... for what ever reason I’m getting such poor drops, it’s not fun, and if 2 embers in 15 to 18 hours (estimate, as I take brakes) is what I’m looking at, that’s  around 850 hours for a pitty flame.

Not an enjoyable part of the game, but for now, I’m doing the dailies now and again, just for the dailies and not as a target to get the flame (as its not looking likely, unless I get a straight drop)

Please can we have Thornwood solo area that drops embers (doesn’t even need to have the flame drop) , So solo burst players (people how play for 10-15mins at a time) have a sensible option for obtaining the flame.

How much trash do you get in that 15 minute session?  Also aren't you a Shai?  She obliterates Turos solo.  Are you 293k w/ blackstar or Kzarka, because that's a big difference as well.

I will say, that it is your fault for going to a duo grind spot solo and expecting any decent results.

kek , you just had too :P 

Did i expect decent results? pulling that out your ass like normal.

in fact re; 'I will say, that it is your fault for going to a duo grind spot solo and expecting any decent results.' is the opposite of what im saying. as i do not expect decent result and that why im asking for a solo area...<see why i think your trolling? I just rote this and you did not process it at all

i dont look at the trash, why would i? i get what i get? not seeing the issues here are you?

okay ... you are the frist. you really want to know?

or just trolling?

watch the downvotes a trollery, and this time i did not start off rude in the slightest. They will miss the point and argue thier own reality, again ><

I fact, nah. not going though this stupidity again... the feed back section is hostile even when im beeing nice, and the same epople seem to be hovering on the section waiting to not read my post, and post random stuff that dose not relate to what was said.

GG, gonna avoid feedback on the forums and use othere methords. (Please delete thread, i wish to give these trolls none of my time) this section is not a healthy or usefull part of the site

IM out :P but i will be posting in the fan art sections. Back to loving BDO and away from these trolls :)

I will cheer you up: even turo boss doesn't want to give me ember. 

All party zones in BDO = epic fail, but Toros are outstanding in this regard.

Thousands of players have no progress because they are unable to get it flame or embers (and hearts; why, tell me why blue item has less chance to drop then yellow?).

I'm nice, tell your story to me 😊

Actually trying to help you out, the fact that you took what I wrote in any tone is on you not me.  The reason I asked about trash is because that gives an indication as to how many you kill in those 10-15 minute stretches.  If you are getting 700+ with agris and +blue loot scroll, you are doing decent with your kill speed, but if you're getting less than 200 with agris and +blue loot sroll then that means you are killing extremely slowly.

I would put money on it being the later option, and the reason you are not getting many embers is because you are not actually killing them at any decent speed, which is a you problem not a grind spot problem.

but you put "Cant group up (not explaining why, just how it is)" in there, that isn't being nice, that's being confrontational from the get go.

 Thornwood doesn't drop embres, but it does pieces to get FG armor via an alternate path using the fragmented Elviayed.  

Hope you don't behave like a spoiled angry person your whole life.  

you dont want to grind for it.

Just brough your fallen god on CM.

That actualy the same price to buy a base Fallen god that make one. you even get a DUO for only 5 billion more.
Dim tree 12 billion + 8260 caphras( 25 billion) = 37.

If i had to have another fallen god/be a new player, will definitly just buy a Duo directly.

ROTFL. Why pay for something that is free? Season give you Tuvala Pen armour chest for free (100% stone for pen). Then you only need pay 4b for oquilla piece (which is an epic fail that you can't get them for free), rest of the mats can be obtained for free.

Caphras can gain it naturally - just by playing, and there are tons of ways to get them.

So in raw money you need only 4b for oquilla and 600m for flame (but you can't buy it with over 4,000 pre-orders) so 4,6b not 40b.

Problem is that you can craft more than one Fallen and should be a limit of 1 same as with black star.

Second problem preorders of people who no longer play, therefore the preorder time should be shortened to 1 week.

Your math sucks. Crafting fallen god armors isn't even profitable