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Mythical Dine Appearance Feedback
Jan 28, 2022, 16:58 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 24, 2022, 15:53 (UTC)
# 21

When even the Campsite has more horns than the Mythical Dine.

I borrowed Blackweavile's base and gave it a rendition of my own.

I will use the edit of this post to describe a little more in depth my thought process behind the above design. 

P.s. Most references I won't link directly because I can't guarantee all links or websites are safe. But I do not own the pictures posted below.

My overall theme is "Mermaid", which revolves around Water Elements and colors such as: Blue, Purple, Aquagreen, Turquoise, Lilac, Pink. You can google "Mermaid Aesthetic" or "Mermaid Theme" for examples.

I also wanted to add a more ethereal look that leans torwards the typical "sparkly majestic Unicorn with flowing mane and rainbows". If you search "majestic Unicorn" You will find something like this collection in Google. You can see that roughly the same colors are the same the ones I listed.

I figured a long wavy mane would represent all of this very appropriately. Another cute detail is how some white horse coats have a pink nose and decided to add that as well.

It is very subtle but I expanded on the pearlescent effect on the body with light green on the crest, pink on the chest and blue on the legs. The blue coloring on the Elbow, Barrel, as well as the purple on the Thigh are more evident and are inspired by Drapple Gray horses.

The horn is just like a narwhal's.

The rainbow effect on both the Horn and Tail I imagine it like this:

As for the markings, I wanted to represent Water in many different states. Resting, Waves, Whirlpools, Waterfalls etc. That is why they are composed of many different shapes and angles. The mane and tail specifically represent a waterfall with a very strong and predominant white color with droplets, water effects, etc.

The color of the markings was inspired by Blackweavile's design (Page 2 of this thread). I think the white glow with pastel colors looks very attractive and my idea is that it the different colors such as blue, green, purple would transition through the markings. 

phew.

Last Edit : Feb 7, 2022, 23:59 (UTC)
# 22

Fingers-crossed the water ability it has is well done. Considering how basically all water content in the game is very often a visual and desynced mess I'm concerned it's going to be average.

I do  hope they listen to feedback an add a horn. This is on par with the best horses in the game you can obtain; horse should look amazing. I really wish PA would strive for a best practice policy in their operations and not a 'this will do' mentality they seemingly settle for.  

Last Edit : Feb 8, 2022, 03:43 (UTC)
# 23

On the topic of T10 dine, there's also an extremely important note to add: Skills.

We all know one of Dine's skills is waterwalking, but this does not make up for the fact that t10's overall speed has increased through skills and therefore fast t8's should not be able to compete with an average t10 dine on a straight road. 

T10 Peggy outbeats Dine going to Valencia from grana now, watch:
https://youtu.be/h1FDEfL_LNg
Therefore, the only skill (desert walking) that has kept dine relevant wouldn't be enough for t10 dine,
nor would the short water walking teased. 

Not convinced? Here's a video of my dine (168.9 w/gear)(160.9 w/out- top 0% dine!!) falling behind a t10 pegasus with 168.0 speed (w/gear)


So what kind of expectations does this create for dine? The answer is a speed skill to use on regular land.
I don't want to advocate for a third instant accel because that would be too much like doom.

Some ideas include:
 - Make a skill to combine instant accel and s:instant accel into one accel, making it one accel.
 - Make a skill that enhances s:instant accel, adding 1/2 (half) of an accel onto it.
But I'm not sure what else this may include, something about dine needs to speed it up in it's T10 Version, and giving it extra stats would be unfair to peggy, therefore it needs to be through skills.

Also, the excuse, "We don't want to make it feel like you have to get it" in this instance would be unprecedented. Dine owners have always felt the need to get doom or peggy for speed because dine lacks so much on average compared to the two. 

Last Edit : Feb 8, 2022, 08:58 (UTC)
# 24

I wholeheartly agree with the feedback of OP - lack of horn, bald head and basically just looking like reverse doom truly is not what I had hoped for.

Instead of the water going up, I'd love a floofy mane dripping with water going down - leaving a sparkly water trail on land maybe?. Here's hoping to some adjustment in the right - read, wished for - direction.

Last Edit : Feb 8, 2022, 19:31 (UTC)
# 25
On: Feb 8, 2022, 03:43 (UTC), Written by Kurosity

On the topic of T10 dine, there's also an extremely important note to add: Skills.

We all know one of Dine's skills is waterwalking, but this does not make up for the fact that t10's overall speed has increased through skills and therefore fast t8's should not be able to compete with an average t10 dine on a straight road. 

T10 Peggy outbeats Dine going to Valencia from grana now, watch:
https://youtu.be/h1FDEfL_LNg
Therefore, the only skill (desert walking) that has kept dine relevant wouldn't be enough for t10 dine,
nor would the short water walking teased. 

Not convinced? Here's a video of my dine (168.9 w/gear)(160.9 w/out- top 0% dine!!) falling behind a t10 pegasus with 168.0 speed (w/gear)


So what kind of expectations does this create for dine? The answer is a speed skill to use on regular land.
I don't want to advocate for a third instant accel because that would be too much like doom.

Some ideas include:
 - Make a skill to combine instant accel and s:instant accel into one accel, making it one accel.
 - Make a skill that enhances s:instant accel, adding 1/2 (half) of an accel onto it.
But I'm not sure what else this may include, something about dine needs to speed it up in it's T10 Version, and giving it extra stats would be unfair to peggy, therefore it needs to be through skills.

Also, the excuse, "We don't want to make it feel like you have to get it" in this instance would be unprecedented. Dine owners have always felt the need to get doom or peggy for speed because dine lacks so much on average compared to the two. 

The first video I'm not too sure. I don't understand how it's appropriate to compare a 171 speed horse with a 165.

But the veed.io clips shown tell me that Dine is practically the slowest Dream and we have no word that Mythical will improve this.

Sounds to me like Mythical Dine should have increased base stats because Dine by design doesn't have top speed as its perk.

Also yes, that reasoning given in Heidel Ball: "We can't make it too good so players don't feel forced to get it" is really bad. You don't think the Naphart Campsite is too good? You don't seem to mind when players feel forced to spend $50 on it. You don't seem to mind when players feel forced to play with permanent VP and other 30$ worth of buffs monthly. You don't seem to mind when players are forced to play the Costume Marketplace game to get crons. You don't seem to mind when Trainers are forced to pay pearls for Mount Skill Change Coupons because there is no natural way to raise good horses without them.

So make it too good PA, Why are you against this? Don't you want players to PLAY your game and have a goal?

Is it because you know the Mythical Awakening system is tedious and unfair?

And to talk more seriously about the Water-walking ability. I honestly hope that we can traverse bodies of water at least half the size of Valencia.

Last Edit : Feb 15, 2022, 09:50 (UTC)
# 26

I have to say that I am also totally disappointed. Unicorn (Dine) is not a popular horse because he is the slowest one (Doom has 1 more instant accel and he "overtakes" Dine). But Dine t9 is at least beautiful, unfortunately enhanced version of the t10 is totaly disgusting.

And where, where is his horn?

I mine opinion Dine needs:
1. horn!!! & more contrast/color in mane and tail
2. horse hair, this horse cannot be bald, so he needs some hair contours

-> Looks similiar to Doom? Doesn't matter how long Dine is NOT BALD!
3. prettier face or hair covering his face


And here is my non-skill tries to fix showed t10 Dine in GIMP program:

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Last Edit : Feb 15, 2022, 13:48 (UTC)
# 27
On: Feb 15, 2022, 09:41 (UTC), Written by Vastka

I have to say that I am also totally disappointed. Unicorn (Dine) is not a popular horse because he is the slowest one (Doom has 1 more instant accel and he "overtakes" Dine). But Dine t9 is at least beautiful, unfortunately enhanced version of the t10 is totaly disgusting.

And where, where is his horn?

I mine opinion Dine needs:
1. horn!!! & more contrast/color in mane and tail
2. horse hair, this horse cannot be bald, so he needs some hair contours

-> Looks similiar to Doom? Doesn't matter how long Dine is NOT BALD!
3. prettier face or hair covering his face

Some people mentioned how "water doesn't go upwards" in general and personally, I don't mind if they keep it that way BUT hair and effects going down would be 100x better.

I honestly think it should have a mane like these coats:

I don't want PA to re-use assets...but anything is better than the current design.

I don't understand how they designed such a beautiful mermaid concept for Corsair, but the water horse is so mediocre. Look at this design:

Beautiful, Stunning, Creative! It's so well done that you can understand it's a mermaid without the cliche elements. I love it. We need more of this inspiration for Mythical Dine.

Screenshots credit: https://twitter.com/FireFoxFoxy/status/1409907811652444161?s=20&t=lcr-jQcLJ2a5XcWFKGNMrA

https://twitter.com/fanflake/status/1409972148924522503?s=20&t=TJQ-r-b8MdHwoxBRsguz7w

Last Edit : Feb 20, 2022, 08:09 (UTC)
# 28

Please change the look of T10 Unicorn, if we can even call it a unicorn anymore since its missing its signature horn.

Why is T10 Dine a Doom reskin? Is T10 Doom also going to be a T9 Doom reskin? Are we going to end up with two T10s that look the exact same, but just a different colour?

Changes that I would love to see:

1. Add Dine's horn back, just doesnt feel like the same horse without it

2. Change the mane, the horse looks bald. Imo the water should flow downwards 

3. Change the base colour! In the teasers it showed a pearlescent horse (which fits really nicely into the water horse theme) but seems the devs got lazy and now we have yet ANOTHER white horse. 

Last Edit : Feb 21, 2022, 03:44 (UTC)
# 29
On: Feb 20, 2022, 08:04 (UTC), Written by Blondiie

3. Change the base colour! In the teasers it showed a pearlescent horse (which fits really nicely into the water horse theme) but seems the devs got lazy and now we have yet ANOTHER white horse. 

Glad I am not the only one who also thinks this.. That we are just getting another white horse. At least Dine has golden mane, tail and marks so it stands out from the rest. This? I could see it running past and think its just a purewhite t7 or t8. 

Last Edit : Feb 25, 2022, 01:27 (UTC)
# 30

This design is stunning. Does dine's elegance some justice.

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