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#Sage
Sage Struggling In New Meta Please Fix
Jan 30, 2022, 05:42 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 1, 2022, 00:24 (UTC)
# 11
On: Jan 31, 2022, 17:58 (UTC), Written by MightyKendo

PA has to do something about this class its legit a meme at this point agree on sage needing big buffs.

Tag event was extended, hopefully they extend again and fix it.

Last Edit : Feb 4, 2022, 09:17 (UTC)
# 12

Another week passed still no Sage mentions :omegalul:

Last Edit : Feb 4, 2022, 17:48 (UTC)
# 13

Yeah, was a shot in the dark. I know most of us want Overcharge changes and slight damage increases, but I think PA is entirely unaware of the issues the class has. Last night, cast Interrogate almost an hour after casting LP again. The bugs on this class are insane. Also, can't even get combos off before I die. Just tagged striker, clearing 400m then Sage at Orcs...so I'll be rolling with him for awhile. Hopefully PA wises up to what is really going on....class needs help, badely. 

Last Edit : Feb 12, 2022, 19:33 (UTC)
# 14

skill issue bruv you need learn your class 

Last Edit : Feb 12, 2022, 22:34 (UTC)
# 15

All of these performance issues on Sage... welcome to Lahn and how she has been since the start of 2019. Awakening with no protections, removed all but a single skill CC, Double stamina useage while breaking multiple animations in mid skill that make her look like a fish out of water. Yet, nobody complains about her. The only classes that get fixed are those who whine the loudest. Welcome to how we lived with Lahn for years. We jsut don't whine like everyone else.

Last Edit : Feb 12, 2022, 23:41 (UTC)
# 16

Last I checked, and I haven't mained the class in over a year, Lahn still has the best ranged grab...cheaper movement...where's she doesn't need 200 stam for SA, but IFRAME followed by SA and more protection and damage then Awa Sage has ever had. Lahn requiring CC and full combo with second CC...since when?  Imagine if Lahn had to cast a skill after every SA dash, that costs 250 stam. Or having a kit solely designed around SA that is the squishiest class in the game. Comparing Lahn to Awa Sage's overcharge mechanic is the biggest WTF I've ever heard lol. If you're struggling on a Lahn, you got other issues lol. NA/EU/KR all agree, Sages movement is hands down the worse movement in game....that's def. not the verdict for Lahn in KR...or NA for that matter lol.

No one complains about Lahn b/c she's still good...did you not watch AOA torunament? Apparently not....They literally had to nerf stamina because they were rolling through killing and iframing out np. Sage could do that, and they took the iframe....last I checked, Lahn still could, and THEN immediately continue moving in SA WITHOUT having to use a dps skill inbetween. LMFAO, you think lahn has 1 cc...ok.

Last Edit : Feb 12, 2022, 23:27 (UTC)
# 17
On: Feb 12, 2022, 19:33 (UTC), Written by AllienNW

skill issue bruv you need learn your class 

Right, assuming both Pruim AND Heedun, Tourny winners btw, don't know the class either lol. How is "skill issue bruv" have anything to do with a rat class having to combo damage now? How does "skill issue bruv" have to do with an overcharge mechanic that costs more then other classes, not just stamina wise but also DPS skill. You do know it didn't launch with this right? It lost Iframe b/c it had highest damage....now it's the lowest...hows that skill issue? It's common sense lol.

Last Edit : Feb 12, 2022, 23:35 (UTC)
# 18

100% accurate post and it's truly sad to see anyone say otherwise. It is blatantly obvious on who hates the class and/or has never played 30 minutes of BA vs. any competent player. The classes power level is essentially obsolete in the current meta unless you massively overgear your opponents, or they have no clue how Sage works.

As Jeni has said time and time again, along with many others, the class just simply does not function how it was designed to function. You cannot dive because of lack of protections and all of the damage is combo damage. The stamina costs are completely and totally out of line for how shitty the movement is. SA short ranged dash on a 2 second cooldown that costs 250 stamina....like what? Compared to anime characters with 1 second iframe dashes that also do more damage in one ability than half of your combo combined. Not to mention that you are stamina locked during some abilities that are crucial to your survival, so at a certain point unless your opponent stops pressuring (if they're a bad player), you run out of options and stamina. 

No one, I mean literally no one is asking for RMB>Iframe spam Sage back. But it is extremely saddening and disappointing that PA continue to choose the 2016/2017 Musa/DK route with Sage. We just don't want the class to rot for months and months or even years because of a failure to properly balance. It doesn't even have to be a top 5 class, just make the class VIABLE. There is no reason why it should've received countless nerf after nerf, which even trickled down AFTER the class reboots which was a massive indirect nerf considering every classes powerlevel dramatically increased. Top players have all chimed in and shed light on how awful this class is right now, on BOTH specs too. Such a huge shame, some of if not the best animations in game, cool lore, all of that. 

To anyone that disagrees, I implore you, go take the class into BA, overworld, uncapped war, anything. You will see almost immediately how much of a joke this class is right now compared to everything else other than maybe Awk Mystic or something. 

Last Edit : Feb 12, 2022, 23:45 (UTC)
# 19
On: Feb 12, 2022, 23:35 (UTC), Written by Veralium

100% accurate post and it's truly sad to see anyone say otherwise. It is blatantly obvious on who hates the class and/or has never played 30 minutes of BA vs. any competent player. The classes power level is essentially obsolete in the current meta unless you massively overgear your opponents, or they have no clue how Sage works.

As Jeni has said time and time again, along with many others, the class just simply does not function how it was designed to function. You cannot dive because of lack of protections and all of the damage is combo damage. The stamina costs are completely and totally out of line for how shitty the movement is. SA short ranged dash on a 2 second cooldown that costs 250 stamina....like what? Compared to anime characters with 1 second iframe dashes that also do more damage in one ability than half of your combo combined. Not to mention that you are stamina locked during some abilities that are crucial to your survival, so at a certain point unless your opponent stops pressuring (if they're a bad player), you run out of options and stamina. 

No one, I mean literally no one is asking for RMB>Iframe spam Sage back. But it is extremely saddening and disappointing that PA continue to choose the 2016/2017 Musa/DK route with Sage. We just don't want the class to rot for months and months or even years because of a failure to properly balance. It doesn't even have to be a top 5 class, just make the class VIABLE. There is no reason why it should've received countless nerf after nerf, which even trickled down AFTER the class reboots which was a massive indirect nerf considering every classes powerlevel dramatically increased. Top players have all chimed in and shed light on how awful this class is right now, on BOTH specs too. Such a huge shame, some of if not the best animations in game, cool lore, all of that. 

To anyone that disagrees, I implore you, go take the class into BA, overworld, uncapped war, anything. You will see almost immediately how much of a joke this class is right now compared to everything else other than maybe Awk Mystic or something. 

Commical with professional players, and tournament winners laugh at Sage players, saying they're trash...but then BDO players are struggling. Like Pruim said, "Sage is garbage, if you think he's not, you're garbage too". If you die to a Sage, especially one that doesn't out gear you substantially, that's on you.

https://clips.twitch.tv/GoldenSparklyArmadilloMoreCowbell-KnKC_-9L30ZUX3jf Heedun's thoughts on Sage.

Last Edit : Feb 13, 2022, 00:52 (UTC)
# 20

im impressed there are still people playing this class.

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