that doesnt matter, and even if the bug was about pet damage it would affect pet damage as a hole. even if the damage is bugged the fact is that the pet did more damage with human damage.
you have no explanation for why the pet did more damage with human damage crystals and you know it lmao, not to mention the tamer bug wasn't really even about the pets damage
ofc this is also ignoring the fact there is a literal in game indicator that shows mob types in game as .but keep digging yourself a hole. itll make u look more of a clown to everyone that reads this and actual plays the game
You can test any mob in game with human dmg and tamer pet. Why? Because pet (summons) scales damage from ap. Because human dmg also increase ap same as all other bonuses so pet give more dmg. And the fact that it scales with human dmg is a bug.
You can test any mob in game with human dmg and tamer pet. Why? Because pet (summons) scales damage from ap. Because human dmg also increase ap same as all other bonuses so pet give more dmg. And the fact that it scales with human dmg is a bug.
So are you arguing that Human damage does or doesn't change the damage mobs take?
To clarify, I am saying that Human damage increases damage monsters marked as humans take when they are hit by player skills. I know nothing of what it does to pet damage, or if pets damage is bugged in any way shape or form.
Are you trolling or do you truly believe that Human Damage doesn't have an effect on monsters marked as humans? PA even changed the Addons recently because they said "PvP" damage but they were increasing damage to human monsters as well. The addon now says +10 Human damage not +10 PvP damage. If you want to dig through the patch notes for the change it has happened since the Calpheon ball, and one of those most likely documents the change. I don't recall it being in the patch notes but it might be there.
Pearl Abyss has a huge problem with communicating with players. And I would like to remind you that long ago these bonuses were not visible to players. Pearl Abyss has never officially explained how they work or how they are calculated.
However, they once said that ap monster are pve items. Humanoid mobs are still mobs so monsters.
Full mobs statistics are unknown. As well humanoid mobs can have a lower dr, and therefore it can only seem like we're dealing more damage.
So until on the official website or in the game's internal tutorial I don't see official explains how these bonuses work, human = live players not humanoid mobs.
It's same like special attack, down attack, air attack. How do they differ? No one knew that for many years. It was recently clarified in the in-game help.
And a simple question at the end: if you think that human dmg works on mobs, how do you explain the fact that ap monster increases the damage dealt to humanoid mobs?
You say that these are not monsters, but "humans". And at this point we close unnecessary discussion.
Pearl Abyss has a huge problem with communicating with players. And I would like to remind you that long ago these bonuses were not visible to players. Pearl Abyss has never officially explained how they work or how they are calculated.
However, they once said that ap monster are pve items. Humanoid mobs are still mobs so monsters.
Full mobs statistics are unknown. As well humanoid mobs can have a lower dr, and therefore it can only seem like we're dealing more damage.
So until on the official website or in the game's internal tutorial I don't see official explains how these bonuses work, human = live players not humanoid mobs.
It's same like special attack, down attack, air attack. How do they differ? No one knew that for many years. It was recently clarified in the in-game help.
And a simple question at the end: if you think that human dmg works on mobs, how do you explain the fact that ap monster increases the damage dealt to humanoid mobs?
You say that these are not monsters, but "humans". And at this point we close unnecessary discussion.
because they classify as a human under the monster category how hard is it to understand lol sure its a mess but even a simple google can yield you results that point out that human damage affects mobs.
heres a long video explaining it
not only that but the person that posted the human damage test earlier already has other videos that shows human damage difference. they could've EASILY shut you up if they just posted this but they wanted to show the big difference.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIK2-TM3cpCQKHrM8fevVcQ/veos
difference between 2 different human damages on mobs
like how much more concrete proof that u need that not only do human damage affect mobs but also that crystals are a core part of your gear or are u gonna keep trolling on forums
Crystals are useless to pve. What do they give you? Some worthless pluses to the statistics (most important AP is not counted as basic but as a bonus). These are imperceptible values that do not change anything. I always hit and I always hit critically. End games mobs don't have "safe" stats, they will always hit you. So AP is useless, AP monster useless (bonus is too small to be noticeable), few pointless HP, few pointless LT.
Critical hit damage and damage reduction are nice but playing with them risking losing them is just a waste of nerves so it's not worth it.
Crystals are of great importance in pvp, but since I am not interested in pvp, I don't need them.
Welcome to 95% of the BDO playerbase.
And a simple question at the end: if you think that human dmg works on mobs, how do you explain the fact that ap monster increases the damage dealt to humanoid mobs?
You say that these are not monsters, but "humans". And at this point we close unnecessary discussion.
Monster damage works on anything that isn't a player. All Species works on anything that has a species, players are classified as humans when you get to the species catagory.
This is very very easy to test. Don't change ANY of your gear, just change your addons to have an overlapping addon in one test, then change one of the overlapping addon be human damage. IE put Crit+and monster damage on one skill and attack speed and crit on a 2nd skill, cast both of those skills for buffs than cast a 3rd skill that nukes the mobs, remove AP until a combo on one mob leaves the mob at 25% health. Change no gear go to a trainer and put Crit+monster damage on one skill and attack speed and human damage on the other, then cast your nuke. You will see a difference in the amount of damage a human mob takes. Then do the same thing only have only crit + attack speed on both skills and notice how much less of damage the humanoid mob takes over the intital test.
This video only shows that six months ago tamer pet was bugged and everyone knows it.
i created a playlist of all my valk test. and you can go on global lab easly and test it yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVnNn1cBdeZ_TSSbI3kjfDZQXvunH3zRW
that have absolutly nothing to do with tamer pet... if i posted my Tamer one its for shorter demonstration of 0 vs 80 human damage in 1 video.
Even bigandshiny did its own llittle test. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qdMKfHAN_6jKqOM3OFMCgo400cR5tU6PkGJfaD4IqmI/edit?usp=sharing
here is its sheet.
Species damage matter and we will surely find new scaling when artefact will be release with Kama/Demi-human artefact combo.
Nonsense. If demihumans are monsters, why do they have the demihumans icon not monsters?
If all mobs are monster then what is the meaning of demihumans existence?
And chris poli is no authority for me. He talked nonsense many times.
As I wrote earlier: only direct information from the Korean dev team has value for me, not speculations of internet randoms.
A picture is worth a thousand words
Credits @Chris Poli
he knows hes wrong and he's known since page 1 of the discussion but you'll never see him admit to it lmao
dont like chris poli and the content he puts out , but at least he plays the game unlike this guy who would rather troll than say hes wrong
tests and evidence readily available nope those are fake and only pa can tell me otherwise :) what a joke at least anytime that theres any call of credibility we can just point to this thread and completely ignore anything this guy has to say