which abuse ? in lineage 2 the red guy doesnt care, because we cant kill him and he has his clan to cover his ass, so he doesnt care to be perman red

and anyway it is not like if perma red player doesnt exist in black desert, so obviously these people are fine with the system

and anyway how it is relevent in black desert ? we dont lose xp and we only teleport few dozen meters away

and did we have arsha server to flag in peace? so why what you complaint against black desert when arsha server should satisfate you for the pvp you wish ?

Yet, karmabombing is a made up construct since no one can force anyone to flag up.  Just say no to flagging.

Thanks for sharing your hate of mustard. Mustard brings so much flavor, without it many dishes would be so bland, but yeah some people dislike tasty meals. 

Aren't you a little hard? Devs removed the most obvious flaws, and sticked to the owpvp they initially decided. They listened, that's why we still have owpvp to this day. Players want it. 

There was / is a mmo (I can't remember the name now) where you played 99% of the time solo only in instances.

Thats a lie. Ok you might been afraid to do it but many people did it. Ofc most of the time was just PvP, but many time you had to PK. Most of the time there was enough to kill just main char, boxes just stayed there. There were people to PK entire party just to take the boss drop. Some of them were protected, some just didnt care been red. Lineage 2 was so much fun, but it has PvP, PK, PvE balance that BDO lacks. But today devs cares too much for snowflakes. Or just afraid to go more niche that already.

And what you gona say about toxic PvE ? Becasue some players wont play BDO if there is no PvP to deal with toxic PvEers. Because Some players play inly PvP Seasons to not deal with PvE toxicity. And some players never touched Seasons becase of that toxic PvE.

Oh let me gues, its gona be your paradise. You can be toxic without any harm...

Nope, they only care about money. And these are making money from the toxicity caused by open pvp.

Problem? They are short-sighted and do not see how much money is escaping them along with players who leave the game at the first contact with toxic open pvp. 

Let me just remind you what a failure was the beginning of New World with full pvp. The publisher immediately changed its mind by 180 degrees and boom over a million premiere copies sold. But as we all know for the game to be alive, you have to take care of it and here Amazon has lost the entire line. But the game still has 37 000 daily players, Black Desert only 17 500 (yes we don't have full data from "client players" but as I have said many times: until the game has a statistic showing the number of players, every non-Steam player is 0 count for me.

Why? Because publishers of mmo games love to lie and count every account (even inactive for 5 years) as a player.

I avoid seasonal channels. But you are wrong. I don't see any toxicity there, only a problem that Pearl Abyss does not want to solve, i.e. too few channels and too many players. How many times have players asked for seasonal characters to have seasonal drop on all channels, not just seasonal. And the problem is solved. But no, Pearl Abyss wants toxicity even in the seasons (mobs ks).