The Devs have done everything BUT open PVE Servers
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On: Apr 7, 2022, 10:45 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone
And yet steam players raised from 15 000 to 22 000. Its normal some people not to like BDO. Been OwPvP game make it niche MMO. Devs know it. And again they know PvE server wont work now.
i dont call raise, but more stagnation, i suppose it is better than lost player ^_^
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On: Apr 7, 2022, 23:57 (UTC), Written by Priato
The game raised to 22k because of the new update, new class, an because it temporally free not because people are happy with the direction the game is going. Your completely ignoring hard facts to fit your bias claims here. In 1-2 weeks time after people have grinded the new zone & an played with the new character we'll see steam #s return to 15k.
it is too ealry steam say we lost dozens player, i suppose in may they show a increase of few thousands players, but now seem we lost few dozens players last 30 days
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On: Apr 8, 2022, 00:04 (UTC), Written by vkobe
it is too ealry steam say we lost dozens player, i suppose in may they show a increase of few thousands players, but now seem we lost few dozens players last 30 days
I was referring to the daily tracker. Tuesday the game pop peaked at 16,165 via steam, the next day which was the day we got the big content drop it went to 22217. This is pretty normal an predictable for any game really not even MMORPGs the day a big patch hits a game people come back to it for a week or 2, look at No Man's Sky for an example everyday that game had a big patchit had a massive short lived daily peak increase in active players.
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On: Apr 7, 2022, 23:40 (UTC), Written by Franklins
I see cuntorto with his many alts is at it again using fake accounts to act like multiple people want PVE servers, just die already cuntorto we don't need your stupid ass in this world.
We really don't need that kind of toxicity here either.
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Apr 8, 2022, 01:10 (UTC)
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On: Mar 28, 2022, 01:46 (UTC), Written by Alphaeus
I am not making an absurd claim. I challenge you to provide even 10 documented claims which is 0.01% of the number of claims you just put forth.
The vast majority of player that PvPs want's "Easy ganks" is a lie. The Karma Bombers just make this claim to try and make it easier to karma bomb.
You don't need claims go through the history on this very forum and you will see countless pleas for PvE servers by a vast amount of people you can even dig back to the old.kakao forums and find plenty.
And it's a valid point alot of people don't like to get ganked and also alot of people don't like to grind.
Those are the two major reasons this game has just been moderately populated all these years.
It's a niche game.
Open it up to the masses? Why not at this point ??
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Apr 8, 2022, 01:31 (UTC)
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On: Apr 8, 2022, 01:10 (UTC), Written by Teze
You don't need claims go through the history on this very forum and you will see countless pleas for PvE servers by a vast amount of people you can even dig back to the old.kakao forums and find plenty.
And it's a valid point alot of people don't like to get ganked and also alot of people don't like to grind.
Those are the two major reasons this game has just been moderately populated all these years.
It's a niche game.
Open it up to the masses? Why not at this point ??
we cant kakao deleting all black desert forum
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Apr 8, 2022, 05:55 (UTC)
# 228
On: Apr 8, 2022, 01:51 (UTC), Written by Yeda
A lot of the PVP community has absolutely no concern for the future of the game or it's success. Their only agenda is to keep forced OWPVP. Evidence, facts, and statisitcs have no bearing on their opinion. Nor do they seek to resolve anything or improve the game.
Dishonesty and pure bias. On top of that double standarts. This writting basically sais: "PvPers want to keep OWPvP. They are the devils here. Nor they want to resolve anything to improve the game!" Excuse me, but it's 100% false. Those said "PvPers" also really want to see the game improved in a way, without changing the ideas of the game itself in a radical way. You've also been given several well known facts by me.
In the beggining a lot of them wouldn't have even pushed for exp removal on PK. They support higher penalties for pking. Essentially they want to be able to force people out of grind spots by sending them to town or harsher penalties.
I was told there was an XP loss in PvP, which was a thing before I came to the game. I am just happy this isn't a thing anymore. There are already salty enough penalties, when it comes to PKing. Also... Yes, but no. Not everyone thinks alike. There's always competition for resources of any type. This is open world, in which one can do many actions and many ways possible to overcome any challenges.(But like any other game there are also limitations). If you want to try to retake your grind spot, feel free to try one-two times. *shrug*
They would never suggest ideas like PVE seasonal servers or fixing the Olivia pk issues. There is no comprehension of the ramifications to a lower player base and sales. Especially in a game several years old.
Now that is just a pure hate here. No good/grizzled player would think like this.
Meanwhile Pearl Abyss pushes forward due to so many complaints in making the game more suitable as an MMO by removing the toxicity.
PA is just trying to satisfy the more casual players from my perspective. However they are going to stick with the ideas of the title "Black Desert online" and it's main goals. And everybody have seen it, time and again. No need to discuss it. Not everybody can be satisfied. If one tries to satisfy every single person this is a fool's errand. Which means that, if by some miracle normal pvpve servers would turn to pure pve(or at least most of them), again the playerbase will drop. Perhaps even lower than expected. One does not simply think from one perspective based on pure emotion espetially.
Same goes to other posters here that are "preaching" PvE servers as a "different religion".
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On: Apr 7, 2022, 23:57 (UTC), Written by Priato
The game raised to 22k because of the new update, new class, an because it temporally free not because people are happy with the direction the game is going. Your completely ignoring hard facts to fit your bias claims here. In 1-2 weeks time after people have grinded the new zone an played with the new character we'll see steam #s return to 15k.
So people hate the game but they cant stop themselves to play the new class and zone. Well done BDO I would say. That must be great job to make ppl that hate the game to play it. Also just check steam chart -even more ppl - 23 000. So why you lie ?
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On: Apr 8, 2022, 01:51 (UTC), Written by Yeda
A lot of the PVP community has absolutely no concern for the future of the game or it's success. Their only agenda is to keep forced OWPVP. Evidence, facts, and statisitcs have no bearing on their opinion. Nor do they seek to resolve anything or improve the game.
In the beggining a lot of them wouldn't have even pushed for exp removal on PK. They support higher penalties for pking. Essentially they want to be able to force people out of grind spots by sending them to town or harsher penalties.
They would never suggest ideas like PVE seasonal servers or fixing the Olivia pk issues. There is no comprehension of the ramifications to a lower player base and sales. Especially in a game several years old.
Meanwhile Pearl Abyss pushes forward due to so many complaints in making the game more suitable as an MMO by removing the toxicity.
Evidence, facts and statistics all imply to keep the pvpve gamedesign.
And if you wanna talk with the pvp community, find them and talk to them, here you have the pvpve community.
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