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The Devs have done everything BUT open PVE Servers
Mar 27, 2022, 19:59 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 11, 2022, 03:26 (UTC)
# 251
On: Apr 11, 2022, 03:12 (UTC), Written by Yeda

There is almost no one actually supporting OWPVP.  Even the polls are not accurate at all.  What everyone wants is enough space to just play the game without interferance.  People don't want to be Karma Bombed or have people crowding them.  Even when they say or vote for PVP in these occassions, that's not really what they want.  That's why the PVP server was dead.

It's really as simple as people just want to play the game without being hindered by the bad game design.

"I just want to grind my potion piece"

"I just want to grind orcs effeciently"

That's the real issue despite .000001% of the actual MMO community posting non stop about how they need PVP in their game, but of course refuse to play on Arsha.

An actual PVPer would NEVER post comments about this.  It would NEVER be an issue to them.  Because they would ALWAYS be playing on Arsha and NEVER be dealing with these issues in the first place.

are you sure you answer to the good guy ?

seem you mistake me with columba

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2022, 05:46 (UTC)
# 252
steam. Apr 11, 2022, 03:12 (UTC), Written by Yeda

There is almost no one actually supporting OWPVP.  Even the polls are not accurate at all.  What everyone wants is enough space to just play the game without interferance.  People don't want to be Karma Bombed or have people crowding them.  Even when they say or vote for PVP in these occassions, that's not really what they want.  That's why the PVP server was dead.

It's really as simple as people just want to play the game without being hindered by the bad game design.

"I just want to grind my potion piece"

"I just want to grind orcs effeciently"

That's the real issue despite .000001% of the actual MMO community posting non stop about how they need PVP in their game, but of course refuse to play on Arsha.

An actual PVPer would NEVER post comments about this.  It would NEVER be an issue to them.  Because they would ALWAYS be playing on Arsha and NEVER be dealing with these issues in the first place.

Again, if you want to talk with PvPers, go find them first.

Now, if your basis is that a majority of players would choose a pvpve game when they despise owpvp so much, I'll stop you right here. Players choose what they really want, that's why the population is "low" but stable, and that's why there's still no regular pure pve channel.

Even more than that, the simple fact they announce the 1-hour personal monster area show the real audience they're trying to get : casuals. They want to give them room to discover the game, burn their agris/scrolls as they wish. But it also means that, after this hour, the purest pve player will still have to go back on pvpve channels.

... And maybe from your point of view, FFA owpvp and controlled owpvp are the same, but it's not. When you come on BDO for its controlled owpvp, available on a majority of servers, well... Arsha is NOT the same experience. 

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2022, 05:51 (UTC)
# 253
On: Apr 11, 2022, 00:46 (UTC), Written by Yeda

Pretending that 10,000's of posts requesting PVP servers didn't exist literally for the entire existance of the game, check.

Saying "without proof" while it's self evident and posted for years, check.

Doesn't accept Pearl Abyss tried putting PVP on Olivia and it failed, check

Doesn't accept World bosses had PVP, but it was was removed, check.

- Forgetting that it all makes sense in a pvpve game with controlled owpvp, check.

- Forgetting that these posts are barely a drop in a bucket, check.

- Forgetting that the guaranteed success of regular pure pve is a self-created fallacy disproved by devs' action, check.

Don't bother dude, you're wrong. 

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Last Edit : Apr 11, 2022, 09:17 (UTC)
# 255
On: Apr 11, 2022, 08:16 (UTC), Written by Yeda

FACT: In an originally PVP advertised game their polls can't even maintain the majority voting for PVP.

"just a drop in a bucket"

Then follows up with

"don't bother dude, you're wrong"

You failed to provide evidence of anything or prove any points.  You just assert things even despite overwhelming evidence.

You would expect MUCH better results from polls in Albion, Lineage II, or games that where highly focused on PVP.  If their own player base rejected it that much it would be very concerning.

You don't care about anything except what YOU personally want though.  We all know this.

As long as you keep calling BDO a "pvp game", you are simply distorting the truth to then try to give weight to your argumentation. BDO is PvPvE from day one. It explains nearly everything. 

You'll stay wrong as long as you try to define BDO as a pvp game. Period. 

Your "polls". Lul. Topics created by some members of a lost vocal minority on a forum barely used by the community. What do they represent? Nothing, except the selfishness of a small part of the community.

You want evidence?

- Devs still don't give you what you want

- Stable population after so many years. Steam charts approved.

Meanwhile, you make calls for an important pure pve community ready to risk on BDO, you invoke overwhelming evidence while bringing nothing, you suggest that players can choose a game that clearly does not fit their desires. 

And on a more personal note... I want BDO to keep its general pvpve gamedesign, like the one we currently have. While you want your personal version of the game, disregarding choices that make BDO different, for your own comfort and using various fallacies.

And for the finishing touch... Devs clearly show that casual players are more important than regular pure pve players. The 1-hour personal monster areas will give PvPvEers even more reasons to use owpvp as they see fit, as any encounter will then imply a regular player. 

Have fun buddy! XD

Last Edit : Apr 11, 2022, 10:30 (UTC)
# 256
Hello,

I will mention this only one time, and I hope we do not have to moderate this thread again. If some of you who are discussing this topic cannot give your opinion without attacking or insulting others, we will have to close this thread and apply restrictions according to our policies.

Also, I think it is obvious but I will mention it just in case: Creating alt accounts to insult other users won't work as all your accounts are linked, so that means all your accounts will get suspended as well.

Kind regards.
Last Edit : Apr 11, 2022, 10:30 (UTC)
# 257

Little offtipic, but his obsession is incredible. How many account hes gona make just to repead his mantra. The one with hundreds names. Soon will be true.

And not to be toataly oftopic I will repead again. The game should stay what it is. PvPvE. This is BDO. This is why majority or people play it. And must be evolve in that direction. Not to be changed. And any PvE server idea is turn in wrong direction. It will lose its charm. Even one channel will change the game. Arsha did , PvE only will do. For some it might not noticieble, but it change the gameplay...

 SO again. The game should stay PvPvE and only evolve in that direction.

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Last Edit : Apr 11, 2022, 10:53 (UTC)
# 259
On: Apr 11, 2022, 08:16 (UTC), Written by Yeda

FACT: In an originally PVP advertised game their polls can't even maintain the majority voting for PVP.

Straight up misinformation. It's not defined as PvP only game. It's a PvPvE. This is what it is now and always was.

Facts based on misinformation are worth nothing.

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