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Can we stop adjusting classes when its too late?
Apr 19, 2022, 07:08 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 19, 2022, 07:11 (UTC)
# 1

Wizard/witch were a problem for 5 years, now it looks like Succession & Awakened Zerker are following the same fate.

Don't wait months. Guilds are already rerolling/only accepting and this is the same thing as succ caster. Please stop doing this.

Class balance arrives way too late when the damage is already done to the games community, please do not make the same mistake like with caster.

There's arguably a lot of classes that are ridiculous right now but zerker outshines everything.

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2022, 09:36 (UTC)
# 2

Saw your stream yday, after reading title I thought u gonna complain about new class XD

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Last Edit : Apr 19, 2022, 10:01 (UTC)
# 3

Remember kids, they said they continoue the balancing after the reworks...

oh wait it was a lie nvm...

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Last Edit : Apr 19, 2022, 10:51 (UTC)
# 4
On: Apr 19, 2022, 07:08 (UTC), Written by ShakyBay

Wizard/witch were a problem for 5 years, now it looks like Succession & Awakened Zerker are following the same fate.

Don't wait months. Guilds are already rerolling/only accepting and this is the same thing as succ caster. Please stop doing this.

Class balance arrives way too late when the damage is already done to the games community, please do not make the same mistake like with caster.

There's arguably a lot of classes that are ridiculous right now but zerker outshines everything.

Pearl Abyss balance is quite funny and seemingly random...

Sage was nerfed within 2 weeks after being released in korea (after staying 2 weeks bugged in NA/EU with literally 0 damage in pvp outside of rbf)

Ninja nerfs were reverted and buffed within 2 days in a hotfix (bringing the servers down just for that in korea)

Other classes had either a very short span of life of a very long one.

In the case of zerker, it seems to be that PA does not care but the reality is way different.

Pearl Abyss balance works in this way:

Weekly, they take a look at what classes are played in korea (attention to this, since they only take a look at korea). After this, they take a look at what the koreans say about such classes. Is this class played a lot and koreans are crying about it? then nerfed. No one plays it and koreans are quiet? then nothing.

After this, they have certain classes they consider "golden", where they ignore absolutely all the feedback provided and instead keep buffing them all the time.

You might think this is bias, but this is the reason why ranger was nerfed to oblivion so many times. Koreans played ranger a lot. Same with DK and same with sage. 

Despite thihs, one of the golden classes is ninja or striker. Two classes that despite  how much they are played and how broken they can be, PA refuse to touch them, and when it happens, you can see them apologising and fixing them within hours.

Succ zerker seems like it joined the golden club.

As the old say goes... vote with your wallet.

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2022, 10:53 (UTC)
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On: Apr 19, 2022, 09:36 (UTC), Written by Adonaj

Saw your stream yday, after reading title I thought u gonna complain about new class XD

The new class is strong, but like many of the new class releases that's going to be pretty short lived lol. (Assuming they do what they've done to each class since archer release and so on).

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2022, 15:36 (UTC)
# 6

Metashifting like it's always been.

We have little to complain about, The number of classes that dislocate skulls is high atm.

I don't have a word to say about the Zerk being Valk.

And Musa has even less to say.  ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

The big guilds will always exploit the most powerful tool.  And they've made it dead easy with the tag system.

Changing the meta every month won't change that there will always be one.

They killed diversity by making the re-rollings accessible.

And they do everything to make the game more 'Accessible' and 'fun' for casual players.

Not to mention, they plan to get into Arena with the Solare arenas. Which they will have to destroy a few class for no good reason in their Good ability in the duellist department to offer a decent chance ratio to the one that shines in high scale, dislocating forward the intended role of some classes. Since i doubt that their going to Nerf,  but buff the one with low scale disadvantage...

You can't give all the roles to everyone. There can't be only Queens in a chess game...
You don't take a support when you go Jungle. >_>

I'm not saying anything should be done. (in fact that I believe that we have reached where stopping everything would be perfect, but in a casual player mentality its not something to be considerable they meant to be class carry first and foremost and not playing a specific role...)

The meta zerk is probably surpable/adaptable with an increase in skill of the base player.

And updates/class changes do not allow that.


In the end anyway PA will do like all the other games. Continue in their Meta shifting based on the player behaviour where they have the data collected.

The zerks don't bother me as much as the Succ Gandalf meta personally, so I enjoy my time. Mystic Succ/Gauntlet and ninja awake are the highest threats.
they don't die (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)

Last Edit : Apr 19, 2022, 14:27 (UTC)
# 7

The current schedule of PA's changes to the game is working out right now. 

They are taking time to evaluate every area of the game. Except alchemy stones. Because who the fuck cares about alchemy stones right? its not like its the worst fucking nightmare thing to do in the game right now RIGHT. Fuck off PA. FIX ALCHEMY STONES PLEASE. 

PA is investing time and resources into beneficial changes. Can you at least recognize this?

Maybe we can get some Arifacts that benefit FARMING?!?!?!?!?1?!?!

When PA comes around to visit class balance, im sure they will shift the ground again. 

Then you can cry about the next newest plague in the PVP unbalance scene. Everyone will jump on it and ROUND AND ROUND THE CIRCUS GOES.

Last Edit : Apr 20, 2022, 12:22 (UTC)
# 8
On: Apr 19, 2022, 14:23 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

The current schedule of PA's changes to the game is working out right now. 

They are taking time to evaluate every area of the game. Except alchemy stones. Because who the fuck cares about alchemy stones right? its not like its the worst fucking nightmare thing to do in the game right now RIGHT. Fuck off PA. FIX ALCHEMY STONES PLEASE. 

PA is investing time and resources into beneficial changes. Can you at least recognize this?

Maybe we can get some Arifacts that benefit FARMING?!?!?!?!?1?!?!

When PA comes around to visit class balance, im sure they will shift the ground again. 

Then you can cry about the next newest plague in the PVP unbalance scene. Everyone will jump on it and ROUND AND ROUND THE CIRCUS GOES.

I swear the team that does reworks intentionally does as little as they can so they can stretch their employment to retirement.

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Last Edit : Apr 22, 2022, 09:15 (UTC)
# 10
On: Apr 19, 2022, 10:53 (UTC), Written by ShakyBay

The new class is strong, but like many of the new class releases that's going to be pretty short lived lol. (Assuming they do what they've done to each class since archer release and so on).

The new class is garbage. Having "big damage" for 8 seconds and trash everything else isn't going to get you far.

Edit: Actually I am rethinking this. Considering the playerbase this actually probably will get you far.

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