There is no reason to rely on anecdotes or guessing.  Well I mean there is one reason.  PVPers desperately need to rely on unreliable opinions and propaganda because the overwhelming evidence for decades it simply to much.

A simple basic understanding of Wolves Vs Sheep is all anyone really needs to know as to why OWPVP is essentially an enternal failure in MMO's.

You can bury your head in the sand and pretend Pearl Abyss isn't releasing 1h instances to help resolve this issue, but it will never make you right.

BDO isn't and has never been a PVP game.  In an actual game designed for PVP people wouldn't have had to complain for years about Witch/Wizard.  How could a game focused on so called "PVP" be so broken year after year?  BDO simply HAS PVP in it.  That's all it's ever been.  Not good PVP, not balnced, not entertaining, not even wanted in many cases.  It just has it because it's a common misconception about creating easy content.

Shadow Arena is a complete failure that isn't even talked about because the combat simply isn't very good.

Meanwhile War games and MOBA's have millions of players.  Halo was an excellent PVP game.  BDO is just not, never was, never will be.

BDO can't even sustain 1 single PVP server without giving it PVE boosts lol.

Why didn't we get 10 Arsha's?  Because there is NO CUSTOMER BASE to support it.

There's a clear distinction between small topics and big topics whether it's here or on reddit etc... The discussions are enormous and have been going on for years and years where it's a serious concern that is left ignored. Sure, we can all make our own list of priorities but the problem is that PA doesn't have a priority other than pure profit. They took what? 3 years to release a mediocre / incomplete DLC? The map is small, the assets are reused, and the textures are like 16 x 16 for a lot of it. The graphics are supposed to look better than previous zones because that's how games are, but instead it looks worse. The story while a step in the right direction is an atrocious experience especially if you are new to the game since you don't even fight something for the first hour or something.

As for gameplay, nothing new was introduced, it was mainly a story expansion with a narrator that sounded like he was reading from a children's book.

They could fix desync, but they haven't. Desync is arguably the #1 priority right now because it makes the game feel awful. You can't have good PvP, you can't go out sailing without problems, you can't expand on sea content if you wanted to without first fixing this. Pretty much everything hinges on fixing desync but they never addressed the issue. But they do add new pointless classes.

How many things have they talked about that they would introduce to the game, only for it to be delayed or cancelled? Climbing? Ocean content? Workers 2.0? Caravans? Ice fishing? Mount overhaul? etc.... There's also another expansion that was supposed to release last year, so we're waaay behind on getting new content.

You can blame covid like every company that misses projections / deadlines like to do (dog ate my homework excuse) but it didn't change game development by more than a couple of weeks for most companies. It hardly had an effect on companies that permitted work from home unless the staff was just lazy and didn't do the work they were supposed to do which happens and it might be the majority since pre-covid every major company that was doing work from home had to stop since employees were slacking.

99.9% of the MMORPG market is casual, prefer PvE and don't want to deal with people's BS. They just want to sit down from a long's day work and enjoy themselves. PvP isn't fun in this game and never will be because it's never been designed to be. It's a PvE game with some PvP elements and that's bad. They need to focus their attention on player retention and making the game more accessible and enjoyable even if it makes open world PvP players upset for a little while.

PvP needs its own game mode so to speak with its own progression system with its own gear system that isn't backed by RNG mechanics but rather SKILLS and player participation need to be required, not voluntary when they queue for it. Joining PvP just to watch youtube videos and gain XP is not good for anyone but the leech.

Sure, there's a lot to fix in the game but I think they need to refocus their strategy for tailoring the player experience for optional PvP and fixing Desync. You are free to disagree and rebute what I said but at least that's my stance for the time being.

Subjective

BDO PVP is fun

Diablo 1 PVP is fun

Objective

BDO doesn't use any consistent or logical rules for PVP.  In many cases it makes no attempt to correctly differentiate between Solo / Group combat.  Which is EASY to do.  They already have mechanisms in place to adjust for Siege, RBF.  The problem is it's just a slop fest that was never properly handled.

Objectively the PVP in BDO is completely inferior to other fighting games especially ones that focus primary on it.  The desync alone is enough to destroy it let alone things that should not be a factor like frame rates.

BDO isn't a MMORPG despite the label and the fact that most people came to BDO to play an MMORPG.  A functional MMORPG supports a MASSIVE player base SIMULATANEOUSLY.  BDO is not capable of handling that.

In fact in many instances BDO can't even sustain 2 players.  Thus it is certainly NOT an MMO.

Virtually no one is looking for PVP in BDO either.  They ONLY want to PVE.  The DFS cancer is created from the defect of game design and allowing children that are incapable of acting in an adult manner to run around ruining the game.

That's also why Arsha is such a failure.  The original premise was "we will govern OURSELVES".  We will RESPECT each other.

When that fell apart and the server was dead Pearl Abyss sheepishly gave unwarranted boosts to players which not only lied, but displayed they have no respect or concern for others.  A truly shameful thing for Pearl Abyss to not act as the adults providing a healthy game environment, but instead promote toxicity and hostility.

The essense of PVP is the same as spamming racism.  The objective is to annoy and be as toxic possible.  There isn't much value in the actual combat.  One side is either frozen and disabled or people get 2 shot standing up.  Complete garbage.  The value people seek is the trolling and control aspect, not game play.

The reason why 1h instances are being created is so people can avoid this toxic garabage.  Plain and simple.

I don't know what kind of game you're playing, but it seems awful. 

Did you try BDO? That's a nice pvpve game, with a niche but decent population :

https://steamcharts.com/app/582660

Devs even created a system of personal monster area, a temporary pve monster area in which you can burn your buffs 1 hour per day. Mixed with the season system, you'll get ready to dive in the owpvp quite quickly, even if the game itself is still demanding if you compare with the mainstream trend.

Have fun! 

15k "dEcEnT"

lmao

15k "dEcEnT"

lmao

15k, "niche but decent". Yep, exactly. 

Well compared to BDO killers like Bless, New World is kinda perfect, compared to top MMOs like ESO and FF14 is great.

You might not aware of that, but this is less than what a larger private wow server have...

Bless never was called a bdo killer. It was a scam, and anyone with like 60iq could've saw it after they did it like how many 3 or 4 times already?

NW was never a bdo killer either IDK why stupid ppl keep mentioning it.

You know what was called bdo killer? LA was, as that in fact killed bdo in KR, but even in the west it have 10-15times the population of bdo.

As for the other part IDK what you even want to say. ESO is not a top mmo, it's a niche mmo, and probably have close playercount to bdo.

As for FF14 that have somewhere 750-1M sub count, which is a different league entierly than these thirdrate games.

Tho we need to mention that PvP is kinda shite in FF14.