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Adjust dmg numbers against mystic and striker
Feb 2, 2021, 15:07 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 2, 2021, 15:07 (UTC)
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For who knows which reason you ve decided to make hashashin magic dmg making him obsolete against mystics and strikers. The modifiers + the magic resists makes fighting strikers and mystics an absolut horrible experience. I cant talk for succession but on awakening with 290 ap i am not able to one combo a 350 dp mystic/striker. On the other hand i was able to one combo a 380 dp valk with 277 ap. This difference is ridiculous. There shouldnt be a case where 2 classes among 21 have such a huge advantage for no reason at all. 

A little off topic. How do you make nova, that has huge icy aoes, multiple magic summons in both pre awa and awa, a melee combat class but hashashin, which has literaly assassin in his name a magic combat type jsut cuz he manipulates sand?

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Last Edit : Feb 5, 2021, 14:22 (UTC)
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On: Feb 5, 2021, 09:44 (UTC), Written by Tsougkrana

Its the opposite actually

 

https://clips.twitch.tv/PleasantBillowingPoultryNerfBlueBlaster

You posted a clip of SUCCESSION hashashin at 306 AP. Nothing about this says the opposite of what i said. Not only succsession dmg is higher than awakenings, at that ap you one combo anyone. 390 dp isnt that high. As i said i managed to one combo a 380 dp with 277 ap only.  He also didnt say whenever the striker is running dr or eva. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQNCQiFlerY&ab_channel=Laoki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4-U4n5ewq8&t=33s&ab_channel=BJGodNa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7bkJkw1Ms&ab_channel=BJGodNa

These are just 3 videos ive quickly found on hash vs striker/mystic. The last video is before rabams nerf and even so hes having trouble one comboing striker. I am not pulling this stuff out of nowhere. I am literaly talking from my own experiece and experience of other hashashins from my guild and bdo world i ve met. 

Last Edit : Feb 5, 2021, 14:32 (UTC)
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On: Feb 5, 2021, 14:22 (UTC), Written by Amandaen

You posted a clip of SUCCESSION hashashin at 306 AP. Nothing about this says the opposite of what i said. Not only succsession dmg is higher than awakenings, at that ap you one combo anyone. 390 dp isnt that high. As i said i managed to one combo a 380 dp with 277 ap only.  He also didnt say whenever the striker is running dr or eva. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQNCQiFlerY&ab_channel=Laoki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4-U4n5ewq8&t=33s&ab_channel=BJGodNa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7bkJkw1Ms&ab_channel=BJGodNa

These are just 3 videos ive quickly found on hash vs striker/mystic. The last video is before rabams nerf and even so hes having trouble one comboing striker. I am not pulling this stuff out of nowhere. I am literaly talking from my own experiece and experience of other hashashins from my guild and bdo world i ve met. 

Just an FYI, you're pretty much talking to a brick wall.

You'll be wrong because he claims you're wrong and then he'll stop responding.

Last Edit : Feb 8, 2021, 15:33 (UTC)
# 5
On: Feb 2, 2021, 15:07 (UTC), Written by Amandaen

For who knows which reason you ve decided to make hashashin magic dmg making him obsolete against mystics and strikers. The modifiers + the magic resists makes fighting strikers and mystics an absolut horrible experience. I cant talk for succession but on awakening with 290 ap i am not able to one combo a 350 dp mystic/striker. On the other hand i was able to one combo a 380 dp valk with 277 ap. This difference is ridiculous. There shouldnt be a case where 2 classes among 21 have such a huge advantage for no reason at all. 

A little off topic. How do you make nova, that has huge icy aoes, multiple magic summons in both pre awa and awa, a melee combat class but hashashin, which has literaly assassin in his name a magic combat type jsut cuz he manipulates sand?

Exactly why I parked the class. I face a large number of Strikers in friendly duels and RBF alot,  I saw this issue right after season's and complained about it on the other forums. Mystic/Stiker(A current Hero in the meta so fairly common in RBF too) are absolutely uphill battles. The second any class uses a Magic DP Buff you're gimped to the extreme in Awa too.

Last Edit : Feb 11, 2021, 01:36 (UTC)
# 6

Bro, that's it? Just two classes upset you? Well snap, let's talk about all the other classes that complain about any grab class. 

Last Edit : Feb 18, 2021, 16:45 (UTC)
# 7
On: Feb 11, 2021, 01:36 (UTC), Written by Sphynix

Bro, that's it? Just two classes upset you? Well snap, let's talk about all the other classes that complain about any grab class. 

 Not being able to kill Stiker, a meta class, is kind of a an issue. You're completely missing the point, lol. Complaining about a grab class where with even a minimal amount of skill you can win by landing first cc and you can still beat is one thing. Cc'ing and continously outplaying your opponent but being unable to kill a target because of game mechanics is completely different. The Magic bonus Striker and Mystic receive against Hash makes them unkillable in many situations, especially when evasion.  The other times, you're simply grabbed mid combo after your 8th skill only took about 50% damage. How are you supposed to enjoy a class with such a bad match up? Many classes have Magic Resistance buffs too on Rabams, which also plays out the same when the buff is active.

 

https://youtu.be/rfJrgQ8W7nQ

Last Edit : Feb 19, 2021, 11:18 (UTC)
# 8
On: Feb 18, 2021, 16:34 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz

 Not being able to kill Stiker, a meta class, is kind of a an issue. You're completely missing the point, lol. Complaining about a grab class where with even a minimal amount of skill you can win by landing first cc and you can still beat is one thing. Cc'ing and continously outplaying your opponent but being unable to kill a target because of game mechanics is completely different. The Magic bonus Striker and Mystic receive against Hash makes them unkillable in many situations, especially when evasion.  The other times, you're simply grabbed mid combo after your 8th skill only took about 50% damage. How are you supposed to enjoy a class with such a bad match up? Many classes have Magic Resistance buffs too on Rabams, which also plays out the same when the buff is active.

 

https://youtu.be/rfJrgQ8W7nQ

I feel ya,on awaken wiz it's even worse,you do chip damage to them and don't have the mobility to even run or evade them...its an impossible fight unless you heavily out gear them

Last Edit : Feb 21, 2021, 21:05 (UTC)
# 9
On: Feb 18, 2021, 16:34 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz

 Not being able to kill Stiker, a meta class, is kind of a an issue. You're completely missing the point, lol. Complaining about a grab class where with even a minimal amount of skill you can win by landing first cc and you can still beat is one thing. Cc'ing and continously outplaying your opponent but being unable to kill a target because of game mechanics is completely different. The Magic bonus Striker and Mystic receive against Hash makes them unkillable in many situations, especially when evasion.  The other times, you're simply grabbed mid combo after your 8th skill only took about 50% damage. How are you supposed to enjoy a class with such a bad match up? Many classes have Magic Resistance buffs too on Rabams, which also plays out the same when the buff is active.

 

https://youtu.be/rfJrgQ8W7nQ

when awakened casters protested everyone getting mdef on rabams and that gauntlets were unkillable for them everyone laughed. people dont give a shit about balance.

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Last Edit : Feb 22, 2021, 16:49 (UTC)
# 10

That's why this thread exists though, Wiz has burst dps that can eat through Magic DP. Awa Hash doesn't.  Figured that was fairly obvious...

 

And thanks for bringing up the issue of Wiz yet again, in a non Wiz related subject. To the point, Succ Wiz WAS created with all of Awa Wizs faults buffed. Succ Wiz can 1 shot class WITH Magic Debuffs and again, why the class is mained at a 10 to 1 ratio. Like PA has already reiterated, they plan to Buff classes to Succ Wiz levels...which if done as suggested, will break the game. Awa Hash's are just asking for an even playing field,  one Wiz already dominates across the board.

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