For reference my GS is 680+ so my experience with these classes may differ, but I believe (through seeing what I believe is the communities general opinion) these three classes are the worse offenders of the meta right now (now that succ zerk is being nerfed and his presence after said nerfs is TBD)

I spend A lot  of my time PvP'ing, I'd say roughly 80% of my gameplay is doing so. 
Everyone is already aware that currently the game meta revolves mostly burst killing people while they're standing up, but these three classes perform this action far better than without a doubt every other class in the game by far. 

Either their damage needs to be tuned down, or their protections need to be violently decreased.  (I'd strongly suggest a vast decrease in their protections. Mostly iframe spam.)

There is NO reason why ANY class in the game should be able to iframe spam continuously all the while outputting this high of protected burst / Chip damage and cc. 

Vanishing Iframe> vanishing Iframe> Quick SA burst with or out without cc > Vanishing iframe > Vanishing iframe > Repeat 

Fighting these three classes has become nothing more than a gimmick, winning vs them feels unrewarding, and dying while standing to their endless protected chip damage just feels cheap.  I'm not saying neuter the classes like you did sage, but at least give them some sort of drawback to their current playstyle as right now they're able to do far too much for far too little effort.

It feels as though the more the community complains about these three classes, the more PA ignores them. Or they toss out half hearted "nerfs" that don't actually meaningfully address what makes the class so overbearing. 

Discuss below please.

680gs is pretty much gearlet in PvP nowdays, no wonder you die to those classes.

i mean, not like u dont die even with 710+++++++ to them 

can vouch.  :D

I don't mean to be that guy, but your main class is DK. So reading this comment from you makes sense.

Also, I said 680+, not 680. Anyone nowadays that meets the 660 gs standard can 1 combo everyone else. Don't pretend like just because someone isn't 760gs that the reality of a class being far overtuned is nonsense.  Even players like Choice agree that these classes are far overtuned. In fact, I'd wager if you actually collected the data on the communities opinion, many would name 1 if not all of these 3 classes as the most overbearing and overtuned.  

Don't be clouded by your bias of maining an overtuned class, share the same reality with the rest of us.

Also by NO means is 680 a gearlet lol? That's literally 305 377'ish dp or so with nouver. Well over most guilds current requirements for siege.

What I wanted to imply is that you listed your gs like it would be so high that it would make your voice matter more, but you ain't any better than the avarage, so?

Also your class got literately one of the best reworks, and is very strong even in PvP, so that's a gitgud issue here.

Choice literately plays with the most overtuned class in the game atm, tho for that nerf inc soon. Also I did saw him fighting a another streamer that is by your opinion "one of the most overtuned class" (kek) and literately losing like 20% hp in the whole fight...

I listed my gear for the clear reason of people like you who would attempt to discredit reality by pointing towards gear and saying "It's not the class thats overtuned, it's the players gear that's too low!." 

680+ is by no means anywhere near the average gearscore in BDO by the way. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from but the vast majority of BDO players aren't even 660gs yet.

"Also your class got literately one of the best reworks, and is very strong even in PvP, so that's a gitgud issue here." Warrior? One of the best reworks? Most definitely not. It's a good class, but it is not comparable to the current meta. This is proven by the disproportionate amount of players playing warrior in high end compared to those playing kuno, awake dk, and sorc.  

What point are you even making here? "Choice plays OP class too so his opinion means nothing!" 
"and literately losing like 20% hp in the whole"  Choice is one of the most geared players in the entire game, of course he will run into players with such litle gear in comparison that their damage would tickle him.  How is this anecdotal "evidence" proving that your class isn't insanely overtuned??

Population has a direct correlation to the meta. Go anywhere in the game and you will see more awakening dks, sorcs, and succ kuno's than nearly any other class besides maybe succession zerker. And there's a very clear, very understandable reason for this. The entire community agrees:

Those three classes are THE best  3 classes in the game right now in PvP (excluding the soon to be nerfed zerker.)

You're biased because you play the class and you don't want to see it get nerfed in any way. Yet even so, don't be purposefully foolish


For further proof, here is Choice's class rankings. As you can see, out of the top 5, succ kuno, awake dk, and awake Sorc are all there. The only other 2 being musa and succ zerk BOTH OF WHICH has been nerfed. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nt2Vl1odeiPqoIsnJo66JS8BKka4Wn1fY2iN70eR6dE/edit#gid=0

yea if your only perspective of gear is from streamers then you have no idea what the gear average is

Don't only the top 10% have 600+ GS and the top 1% have 650+ GS? I would hardly say that average. I could be wrong but, I believe that's the metrics the Devs shown last.

680 is quite below top guilds requirements these days. not trying to be elitist or whatever.

lets assume its 305-309ap(+?), 395-401dp, double garmoth, proper crystals, with one accurracy accessory for dr classes thats some expected goalpost range these days.
most less geared people will have less in the dp department but their offense will msot likely be the same.

obviously some classes will perform really good even with way less gs in some cases but thats where devs and balance should attempt to fix it (which they seem to not be doing properly or promptly)

Warror got one of the best reworks, this is pretty much a fact. They worked much more time on that class alone, than the time they worked on that 3 you label so broken kek.

The main reason why I laught at ppl like you is that you call my class overtuned, while in fact(you can check the patchnotes) she barely got any meaningfull changes with the reworks. How exactly did she got overtuned then I wonder?

I see way more warriors in rbf than DK, and they preform way better. Yeah those warriors are way more geared than you are, and they know how to play with their class. At such gearlevel you are I give you a point that melee classes not perform that well fighting again ap monkey build players.

Also just to give you a perspective, I'm someone who is mega casual and "spends most of time wanking to his DK in veila" as others tell I'm, yet I'm more geared than you are, so by this example, anyone who actually plays this game seriously should be atleast 700gs already. (Except ppl who started a few months ago obviously.)

Yeah I also aware that the owerwhelming majority of the players suck in this game, so sad :( but PA actually did lot of thing to help the casual players to gear up faster and easier.