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SHAI is getting nerfed to the ground.
Jun 3, 2022, 05:59 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Aug 13, 2022, 15:13 (UTC)
# 111

Shai players have been asking for remove the stupid censorship for 2 years ... and being ignored for all this time without logical reason.

We are a half class doing, we haven't succession or awakening

We can't build the Sol artina like other weapons..

We can't tagg sol artina as if it were a dandelion

I've 505 dp and more than 1300 eva and some players one shoot me..

We almost prefer to be forgotten... There are a very low amount of shai players and even PA nerft us

At the end Shai will become to death class ...

If to play, I have to get competent class such as Drakania or the new ones that will come ...

I won't stop playing the shai because is my favorite class

ThenPA they will simply remove all my motivation to play this game.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 00:20 (UTC)
# 112

We are told they play their game. This is a lie.

Some of the CM’s played the game but it’s not them that are doing this to us, it's marketing and the head dev.

 

The only way you will get them to listen is to take shai image away from PA, enough that its actually costing them money to retain the image they want for shai. Then they start to listen. CMs may be passing on our feedback (some of the CM may be very frustrated and taking the fall publicly, but that’s their job, so lets not be to hard on them).

 

This aint an easy task, but its fair us to enact. We play shai as we play her. We have supported PA and BDO (and Dokev) though purchases for shai and been lead to belive PA where understanding of the player bases chosen use of the shai class. To paraphrase last year, ‘shai has been used in way we didn’t expect and we are doing our best to work with this

 

PA have gone back on this and returned to their longer marketing plan. So that’s were we start I guess :)

 

Imagine, A company like PA fighting it’s customers who have bought it product… It’s so backward, normally you work from feedback and adjust, but I guess their current team is that inexperienced or have such little respect for us (this is the image PA is presenting).

 

They could come out and counter anything I have said about their motive and plans but they won’t. If they did and I am correct (I would say I’m pretty close if not dead on), then they have made a 'formal notice' giving the player base a legal standing from that point onward. They are not going to do this, I understand and expect this, and making this clear to you is the important part.

 

I have worked on securing my position over the last 6 months before putting my self forward (yeah remember, all that chatter in posts and video, not so crazy now – I work on long time scales and with larger scale pictures – they are used to dealing with people that think in 5 minuet segments, not months to years)

 

We can make them listen, not in the way you think, nor will it happen in days or weeks, nor will it be easy. But what’s to lose?

 

I’m just a player asking for them to listen and a bit of respect, I have spend 1,000 with them, are they gonna treat me unfairly because I’m not in agreement with how they are investing my support for the game?

 

TLDR Note especially for CMs to pass on;

They are nerfing PvE across the board, We have to let that settle first.

The only acceptable outcome is that shai PVE is at the top of the new playing field or that if they wish to have all classed in the same bracket, that shai is compensated for her none PvP status in another Game play way (musical stuff, social stuff, that dose not count! *1). Her life skill passive does not cut it (loggia/manos have made them outdates).

And that her many bugs are addresses with the same respect as other classes and this 'special status' shai’ has, where anything not social related is automatically set to low priority gets addresses, so that shai is no longer a special class but treated with the same respect as all other classes.

In Summary:

Shai is a tool, a PA marketing assets more than a class (precious to PA), that has been financed by its players. PA has double-Dipped and lied with regards to this asset.

  1. Using it to push their social side of BDO (PA’s current long-term plans)

 

       2) Misleading the player base into thinking they were taking onboard feedback, so that PA could maximize their income from the shai class both financially (pearls) and marketing (social).

They are patting themselves on the back, thinking they have been very smart (inexperienced). No its not smart, they have abused our trust (very poor reputation impact for PA).

1*)

Understand how underhand that is, acting like all this social stuff if a gift to the shai player and making it okay to ignore real game player issues... They are trying to make you think they are giving you something, while getting you to do their social marketing, You are being used (am i wrong PA? just say if im wrong and i will accept that, tell me how what i have said is incorrect - Nah you will have parts the community call me wrong, but you yourself, you won’t say it, will you? Cus then it goes from opinion of official statements ).

 

Even using the shai player as a test bed for other game assets, Alpacas anyone… yeah it was confusing when they first gave them to the shai, no one asked and PA had ignored what shai had asked for, it was very confusing but not when you understand the low life practices at play… well PA wanted to test out the alpaca, so they gave it to us for an event and pretended it was a gift, then took it away after the tests (until people demanded it back I guess)

It’s on other streamers to call this out and support their shai players (and fellow shai streamers).. But I fear most will not , afraid of what PA will do to their partnership status. Meh, we will see the true heroes and gamers, and them that don’t deserve the hype we give them :P

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 01:00 (UTC)
# 113
On: Aug 13, 2022, 23:37 (UTC), Written by Snoods

We are told they play their game. This is a lie.

Some of the CM’s played the game but it’s not them that are doing this to us, it's marketing and the head dev.

 

The only way you will get them to listen is to take shai image away from PA, enough that its actually costing them money to retain the image they want for shai. Then they start to listen. CMs may be passing on our feedback (some of the CM may be very frustrated and taking the fall publicly, but that’s their job, so lets not be to hard on them).

 

This aint an easy task, but its fair us to enact. We play shai as we play her. We have supported PA and BDO (and Dokev) though purchases for shai and been lead to belive PA where understanding of the player bases chosen use of the shai class. To paraphrase last year, ‘shai has been used in way we didn’t expect and we are doing our best to work with this

 

PA have gone back on this and returned to their longer marketing plan. So that’s were we start I guess :)

 

Imagine, A company like PA fighting it’s customers who have bought it product… It’s so backward, normally you work from feedback and adjust, but I guess their current team is that inexperienced or have such little respect for us (this is the image PA is presenting).

 

They could come out and counter anything I have said about their motive and plans but they won’t. If they did and I am correct (I would say I’m pretty close if not dead on), then they have made a 'formal notice' giving the player base a legal standing from that point onward. They are not going to do this, I understand and expect this, and making this clear to you is the important part.

 

I have worked on securing my position over the last 6 months before putting my self forward (yeah remember, all that chatter in posts and video, not so crazy now – I work on long time scales and with larger scale pictures – they are used to dealing with people that think in 5 minuet segments, not months to years)

 

We can make them listen, not in the way you think, nor will it happen in days or weeks, nor will it be easy. But what’s to lose?

 

I’m just a player asking for them to listen and a bit of respect, I have spend 1,000 with them, are they gonna treat me unfairly because I’m not in agreement with how they are investing my support for the game?

 

TLDR Note especially for CMs to pass on;

They are nerfing PvE across the board, We have to let that settle first.

The only acceptable outcome is that shai PVE is at the top of the new playing field or that if they wish to have all classed in the same bracket, that shai is compensated for her none PvP status in another Game play way (musical stuff, social stuff, that dose not count! *1). Her life skill passive does not cut it (loggia/manos have made them outdates).

And that her many bugs are addresses with the same respect as other classes and this 'special status' shai’ has, where anything not social related is automatically set to low priority gets addresses, so that shai is no longer a special class but treated with the same respect as all other classes.

In Summary:

Shai is a tool, a PA marketing assets more than a class (precious to PA), that has been financed by its players. PA has double-Dipped and lied with regards to this asset.

  1. Using it to push their social side of BDO (PA’s current long-term plans)

 

       2) Misleading the player base into thinking they were taking onboard feedback, so that PA could maximize their income from the shai class both financially (pearls) and marketing (social).

They are patting themselves on the back, thinking they have been very smart (inexperienced). No its not smart, they have abused our trust (very poor reputation impact for PA).

1*)

Understand how underhand that is, acting like all this social stuff if a gift to the shai player and making it okay to ignore real game player issues... They are trying to make you think they are giving you something, while getting you to do their social marketing, You are being used (am i wrong PA? just say if im wrong and i will accept that, tell me how what i have said is incorrect - Nah you will have parts the community call me wrong, but you yourself, you won’t say it, will you? Cus then it goes from opinion of official statements ).

 

Even using the shai player as a test bed for other game assets, Alpacas anyone… yeah it was confusing when they first gave them to the shai, no one asked and PA had ignored what shai had asked for, it was very confusing but not when you understand the low life practices at play… well PA wanted to test out the alpaca, so they gave it to us for an event and pretended it was a gift, then took it away after the tests (until people demanded it back I guess)

It’s on other streamers to call this out and support their shai players (and fellow shai streamers).. But I fear most will not , afraid of what PA will do to their partnership status. Meh, we will see the true heroes and gamers, and them that don’t deserve the hype we give them :P

Couldn't agree more friend.
PA is definetily shady. They sicken me.
We need to be treated with same respect as other classes, this is beyond ridiculous, and we should do something about it, every viable option.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 01:01 (UTC)
# 114

The class is trash, PA doesn't care and I'm 100% sure they do not wanting players to enjoy Shai. The class can't pvp, its the worst life skiller in the game, mobility is garbage, the only thing they had is being competitive in a few spots in the game. Remember PA words when they nerfed Shai a few weeks ago? "That they will be keeping a close eye on them to see how bad the nerfs affected them". 

Now the class is worse off that it was pre rework. 3min cd on misty haze and florang dmg is back to what it was pre rework. Who the fuck would want to even play the class. Please at least let players exchange their pen sol for something else.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 01:09 (UTC)
# 115
On: Aug 14, 2022, 01:01 (UTC), Written by Vanraven

The class is trash, PA doesn't care and I'm 100% sure they do not wanting players to enjoy Shai. The class can't pvp, its the worst life skiller in the game, mobility is garbage, the only thing they had is being competitive in a few spots in the game. Remember PA words when they nerfed Shai a few weeks ago? "That they will be keeping a close eye on them to see how bad the nerfs affected them". 

Now the class is worse off that it was pre rework. 3min cd on misty haze and florang dmg is back to what it was pre rework. Who the fuck would want to even play the class. Please at least let players exchange their pen sol for something else.

I wouldn't go for lifeskill because any class can do that, i don't think there is any best or worse class for lifeskill.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 01:33 (UTC)
# 116
On: Aug 14, 2022, 00:59 (UTC), Written by GreenShadow

Couldn't agree more friend.
PA is definetily shady. They sicken me.
We need to be treated with same respect as other classes, this is beyond ridiculous, and we should do something about it, every viable option.

I think they would love for someone like me to go away, give up.. cus player like us would be there in the game explaining, ‘do not invest time and money in special classes’ (Papu anyone, Pa’s next project... who knows) and we are the perfect example of PA tactics.

 

Because PA will lead you to believe they are listening. They need us to leave so they can pull the same stunt again.

 

And streamers, players that mock us and said, you where ‘played’ or ‘you knew what you where getting’ (how incorrect that statement is)… do they not see how well PA played them as a tool? Got shai feedback suppressed/ignored as a joke class (and worse comments! PA let that ride, sick!)? Cause not, they are the cool kids: P Strange how they have now moved on and left BDO, after standing in shai way and damaging the game.

 

Some of us are gamers; some of ‘us’ are ‘trendy kids’.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 01:58 (UTC)
# 117
On: Aug 14, 2022, 01:33 (UTC), Written by Snoods

I think they would love for someone like me to go away, give up.. cus player like us would be there in the game explaining, ‘do not invest time and money in special classes’ (Papu anyone, Pa’s next project... who knows) and we are the perfect example of PA tactics.

 

Because PA will lead you to believe they are listening. They need us to leave so they can pull the same stunt again.

 

And streamers, players that mock us and said, you where ‘played’ or ‘you knew what you where getting’ (how incorrect that statement is)… do they not see how well PA played them as a tool? Got shai feedback suppressed/ignored as a joke class (and worse comments! PA let that ride, sick!)? Cause not, they are the cool kids: P Strange how they have now moved on and left BDO, after standing in shai way and damaging the game.

 

Some of us are gamers; some of ‘us’ are ‘trendy kids’.

Exactly, we shouldnt give up because of them, we need to be annoying enough, they cant get away with it.

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 02:04 (UTC)
# 118

Could always just gather in one spot with a signbaord over our head in protest on some day :P

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 03:14 (UTC)
# 119
On: Aug 14, 2022, 02:04 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost

Could always just gather in one spot with a signbaord over our head in protest on some day :P

would be a good idea to do somthing, but they will be expecting it... same as last year.

to stop any outcry last time, they gave the alpaca (Dokev) and misslead shai into thinink they got specail fishing no othere class got... remeber that, they let the comunity roll with 'special shai fishing skill'.. then a so called open Q&A where no one asked the question the community really wanted to know about, nah they asked about alpaca breeding.

go on PA, let me have one of my video where my shai talks to cam, i can ask a question that way :) I'll ask about... the striker shai damage mod, that a 2 year old issues.. or maybe somthing about shai life skilling or shais pve... nah, lets see what gets asked instead :P <(e.g. have snoods the shai ask PA, on thier live steam, some question as a shai represeative)

pa just keep missleading.. so little repect. problem is people forget so PA get away with it over and over.

and i would not be suppired if i was leading up somthing like that, my account would ahve an error on that day :P - just send in a ticket they will say 

Last Edit : Aug 14, 2022, 07:34 (UTC)
# 120

like this post: https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/es-ES/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=21352&_page=7 It does not seem that our opinion matters to developers.

 sadly I dont have hope about this post... If we do nothing, sure shai will be death class.

I think the only way our voices arrive is to developers is pressure collectively. We must organize! #ShaiWar

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