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SHAI is getting nerfed to the ground.
Jun 3, 2022, 05:59 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Aug 18, 2022, 23:26 (UTC)
# 131
On: Aug 18, 2022, 21:56 (UTC), Written by Brassica

I appreciated Haxxing's honesty.

It gets tiring reading so many people trying to rationalize Shai being garbage as a good thing for balance. Just work up the courage and say what you really think.

Haxxing #1 player NA for skill and honesty.

Yeah, is refeshing to see people be honest about thier dislike for shai, and not in an insulting way.

but  this far down the line, hes happy to see the players get screwed over, well thats a diffrent matter. I would not wish that on any player becuse of the class the picked and thought would be treated with respect by pa.. meh, somepoeple :)

I have bumped into 3 people that are openly happy about shai nerfs (wow 3/lots).. not one of them based it on balance…It was personal dislike of the class

Last Edit : Aug 19, 2022, 02:10 (UTC)
# 132

Like I said Shai =

Sailboat

Fisher

Cow Milker

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WHMZY
Last Edit : Aug 25, 2022, 19:11 (UTC)
# 133

Welp, we will see within the next 2 weeks if PA pays attention to its community. If they don't respond to our plea (like literally 100% of the shai and even outside the shai community feel bad for us), we will know PA hates us.

Last Edit : Aug 25, 2022, 19:52 (UTC)
# 134
On: Aug 25, 2022, 19:11 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost

Welp, we will see within the next 2 weeks if PA pays attention to its community. If they don't respond to our plea (like literally 100% of the shai and even outside the shai community feel bad for us), we will know PA hates us.

You dont need to wait to know that.

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Last Edit : Aug 26, 2022, 00:48 (UTC)
# 135

I Still have to wonder how this is being passed onto PA, now hear me out.. you’re not going to like this :P

> CMs are people, not Gods. Most are player/ex-players players and forum mods --

(Part of their job to have used and understand the social platforms (reddit where i think they probaly get most info, and not thier offical, go figgure!)think there is currently opening, but I don’t wanna and don’t qualify because of my languages skills, any shai heros out there :P).

-- Each CM With their own understanding and desires for the game, like all of us.

 

It was shown last year, when they where aloud to get away with it, they mocked shai (unlike we have seen happen to any other class, fact!). That was their true nature. I guess it been made clear to them that is not good for sale. But we saw what they though before that was reigned in. This happen, lest not pretend it didn’t.

 

These CM are in control of passing on our concerns, one) factually and choosing too, two) faithfully.

 

It takes a strong character too not let your person feeling (and they where there for all to see) impact such work when it come to the effort you put in. Imagine is the CM team was all shai mains right now? Imagine what would happen to striker :P , lahn? (zerk still be safe, zerk is just a giant shai)

 

Now, I’m not being unreasonable to worry that there could be CMs that do not like shai? (no deletty forum mods, look very bad, I’m explaining a real worry here not trying to cause problems –you bosses may be watching :P – we can talk about that here as well as my channel and other platforms, but here... your team can see what being said, wise to have that – or you can hide it from yourselves.)

Last Edit : Aug 27, 2022, 15:43 (UTC)
# 136

If they actually looked at the numbers, they would see that Shai excels at dying better than any other class. They need to nerf her so she doesn't die so frequently because she is unstoppable at doing that.

She's so good that she even has a skill to play dead

Shai needs to be nerfed again for this reason!

(Will this psychology work on them you think?)

Last Edit : Aug 27, 2022, 17:57 (UTC)
# 137

can confirm that I use the exploit in pvp where I bypass play dead's FIVE MINUTE COOLDOWN by instead lowering my health to 0

it is a cheap trick I know, but it is the most effective way to make people stop attacking me

Last Edit : Aug 28, 2022, 21:23 (UTC)
# 138

Had feedback from pvers and doesn’t sound good, so it time for me to test and record i guess... see what the reality is (got me doing pve, i hate it, but ... gotta do wht i gotta do :P).

 

I love my mid game (mainly for pvp, butit means i have the gear for a few classes) - where your casuals may be playing (seasonal pen +full journals) level 60-63

 

I have 1000h~ on shais, i have 6h on a ranger. i will probably try a few other classes at seasonal pen levels, but i pick ranger because we are told its way below shai (even now)

 

In the first Test (of  many), ranger just out preformed by shai in midgame (recorded) I did not expect this. yes it's sweaty, but i was as sweet as i could be on my shai too (i hit consitant max number i could achive in that test), one class take more effort (ranger) but it can out proform shai it would seem...

 

6h hours! i don’t know what the hay I’m doing with ranger yet .. if I work out ranger, the different may be shocking :P

 

Don’t know when I will start editing the footage, concentrating on learning the classes and such atm...

...but it it looking like its true, shai has been balance for endgame spots only (and only some spot).. meaning she is sub-par in early to mid game compared to a 6h ranger I guess :P and when she gets to end game, she can be average… 'Average in the end with no way to defend'

(wont be hearsay or guess work anymore, will be fottage, where is your if you wanna counter my postion? some end game clips, lol)

 

And all this while dismissing she has no pvp and not updated life skill benefits... 'Playing the game hard becuse PA hardly play it at all :P'

Added, remeber that 6hours include R-ing though the awkaing quests, traveling around, even stoping in BA for an hour to chat to friends.

Its more like 3 hours play, and i'm really not good at ranger, i learn classes slow.

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Additon 1;

Corsair tested.

1 hour of play after a long brake (11d on character in total) just button mashing, have outperformed my shai in in PVE test (midgame) (recorded for later videos)

we are 2 for 2 on classes i have access to with sesonal level gear.hmmm.. Reality is looking somewhat diffrent to what we are told... just on one really tested midgame?

(spending my limited ingame cash to run test PA should have runn before messing around with shai... you know PA that can just spawn in midrange gear, but they dont play thier game)

Additon 2;

Meawha

1 hour of play after a long brake (5d on character in total) just button mashing, have outperformed my shai in in PVE test (midgame) (recorded for later videos)

we are 3 for 3 on classes i have access to with sesonal level gear.hmmm..

meawha current top in this first set of test, and what will be clear from the footage.. i reall yam button massin', messing up playing the class poor, as when you see me on the shai, its controled and planned...

These are the facts.. seeing a parrten here, looks like wha we see in teir list, cherrky picking BS for end game high gear players.. GG pA GG

Additon 3;

Drak (succ all test are succ)

First results that match up with tier list, she didn’t beat shai in the first rounds of test, and by quite a bit ... congrats draks, you real do have it hard in pve (at least tested in early mid game)

sure i could get better on the class, but i dont hink that gonna cut it... even if i max it out in stlye, im not gonna catch shai.. i think :P

(2h replay, 1d,3h total on class) - may give it a little lonnger

------(page 3)

problem here is; i can do these test, get actual footage but PA works of public trends and not reality (i explained this) while we have creators making teirlist on classes they have never tried, this is going to be hard work. One sorc player, even after nerf to shai, has here at top S.. lol, i just outperformed my shai on a ranger I have been playing 6 hours ><

 

I’m actually out there doing the test and recording, these teirlist makers, just guessing.. But they have cool smooth  voices, so they get to mess shai up.

 

Will be on you to counter them using my video evidence when its all done and published… show that these people are talking out their ass and only cherry picking a few end game spots when fulltime DBO players live

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So far it would seem, yet shai is (was) very good in some high end spots, this is because shai can overcome here mobility and Aoe issues (thanks to be-buffs and multi hits, and some) at these spots and outperform people of the same gear. given what I am seeing, as gear increases in game, like for like higher gear than we have now, classes in such area will outperform shai in time.

 

**Shai undercuts requirement but has more limitation, other classes can push outcome with more efforts but its sweaty work (lazy players, lot of ya :P). Gear is a huge factor. If there is not enough gear to fully max a spot, then shai has a huge advantage, when all class can max that spot? Shai has a disadvantage. This is why we are seeing it at endgame spots!!! - this is a key factor i dont see anyone talking about, i thought all oy streamer and creators tested dis stuff?

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Wasn’t so bad when it was feedback from others and I was not 100% sure that PA and some in the community had got it wrong. Now that I’m here testing it, wow aim angry, we really have been treated unfair.. all for a few end game spots.

Last Edit : Aug 28, 2022, 12:18 (UTC)
# 139

I think I'm going to start a protest every day for 1 hour in Velia.

Maybe streaming it in twitch and enought people seeing it can cause the attention of PA.

You know, bad publicity often attracts attention, and only if we unite and spread the word can this come to fruition.
So, if someone more want to join this, is welcomed.

Last Edit : Aug 28, 2022, 14:05 (UTC)
# 140
On: Aug 28, 2022, 12:18 (UTC), Written by BlueSatin

I think I'm going to start a protest every day for 1 hour in Velia.

Maybe streaming it in twitch and enought people seeing it can cause the attention of PA.

You know, bad publicity often attracts attention, and only if we unite and spread the word can this come to fruition.
So, if someone more want to join this, is welcomed.

wish i could, but i gotta makes videos and do the testing PA hasnt done, and call out the BS that shai is top Pve, with acutal recordings... this it taking all my time :(

this will give shai a resource to call one when someone claims shai is OP pve..

And I’m testing it in ways a lot of other people can’t, who are making claims about shai… I’m playing the classes I’m comparing her too (so same player on all classes)… not just theory crafting tier list :P

…I’m bad at these other classes, so it’s even more shocking that they are outperforming shai outside of endgame. It’s all been a lie about shai

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