I was wrong.. nerfs aren’t okay at all.. Technically correct, but not fair given how PA deal with the incorrect technicalities of all other classes.

Strange aint it, when shai shines above all it gets hit fast… other classes, they can shine in PvP as a pvp classes and then get boofed in PvE to shai standard and above!!!

That’s like boofing shais pvp to bring her upto par with all other classes PVP. Howe come PVP classes get their Pve boof to match shai?

If your Pve suck, tuff! ‘you knew what you where getting’ when you picked a pvp class, want better pve? play a pve based class… but nah, PA will pander to the crying of other classes and let shai get stuffed!! Time we shai really kicked off!

Why should shai not have OP pve, to the point it was before the nerf? It's balanced aint it? Risk reward?

She can’t defend herself, so, needs to rake in the cash fast and is rewarded more for avoiding fights, as a non PVP class… that was PA’s philosophy, they have gone back on their word!

They have change shai position (we haven’t got what we expected, so there goes the community’s BS excuse)

Want the same level of cash as a shai with the old misty? Then re-roll/Tag That’s what you have shai do if they want better pvp.. they are the rule you lot set, PA and the community. But all that was bs, wasn’t it?

If PA want to make technically correct game changes, how about all the other things before attacking shai? Nah? Typical. (so many it would be laughable to list) cus PA see the shai comunity as a walk over

And I’m sure we can now expect another round of nerf to come now that they got away with this so easily.

Her misty haze may have been to op, SO? let it be or lets nerf PvP classes that are op in areas too. Wanna match pvp classes Pve to shais? okay lets match shais pvp to theirs? see house sick PA are? and this is because we haven't been loud enough!!!

They wanna nerf shai to an RP only class... gonna let them?

ADDED:

Need a simple argument An example of how this is so wrong?

Arsha +50% drop rate. Shai is at a huge disadvantage on a pvp sever, to cant not compete at the same level for pve spots and bonuse drop rates because shai is non PvP (this is a function of the game maybe PA forgot?)

This is fair as she is not PvP so there is here PvE counterbalance? Taken away!

You only see the huge reward shai can get and totally ignore what risk and disadvantages she has… like someone taping a pen debo and calling them carried while ignore all the fails,crons and wasted stack along the way… Total bs! So bloomin’ common in the bdo comunity

Another argument?

What if we didn’t just look at the few cases where shai get a lot of trash? Or in a groups boosting it as she was design to (OGM, she does that well, let nerf it, Backward PA!)

Well if you take in the average trash of failed DFS of shai… what are the real number, bigger picture?

Apart from them few shai at the top, is it more like shai is getting 20% the trash of other classes, cus they can’t hold spots?

Anyone wanna counter this ? PA? CM, GM you?

But PA and the community ignore that!

Shai OP pve was it’s counterbalance and now PA is taking it always because it looks too good on the surface, in isolation.

Disgusting! I hope you shai that don’t know what happing here are paying attention… cus, you may not be grinding now, but when you do and when you see the unbalance (taking into account shai non PvP status).. your gonna be P*SSed

Im not into PVP, but i got annoyed by a Striker with this "DFS" stuff and i was wondering why my DMG was so low even with 285 AP.

It felt like this: 

After that i "finally" discovered the Damage % Ratios by Class..... no words..... 

I wish PA would do something about this:

I mean come on what is even that?!

I wonder what would happen if PA reduces all dmg ratios from the other classes for shai to the same they apply for the shai would be kind of interesting....

And each time Shai has one "advantage" in pve she gets nerved because other players with other classes say its "unfair" - i mean look up man wtf?!

And i have asked for years for PA or any CM to explain why this is the way it is.. i asked the same about ninja and it did get fixed (PA know they make these minstakes). I didn’t mention striker cus i assumed they would look at the same time, silly me!

Because they ignored my request for years, i finally took the time to look and it’s a game ERROR, unintended damage ratio (See video and yes thsis hase been fild with them, they know the error) that should not be in the game, yet PA have let it ride. Even with it now explained to them they are still late to fix it.

You, any shai and any player with their salt that ins’t some selfish cringe bot should be furious at PA. This is a huge error and been left for so long. No other class has an error this big… where is the community support?

Kicker is? dark and shai, same error but the other way around and it was fixed in weeks!!! 

The error;

Drack Vs shai  - bases damage reduction of 50% applied zero times

Striker Vs shai - bases damage reduction of 50% applied Two times

The solution;

Drack Vs shai  - bases damage reduction of 50% applied one times

Striker Vs shai - bases damage reduction of 50% applied one times

Current implantation 

Drack Vs shai  - bases damage reduction of 50% applied one times

Striker Vs shai - in Error

as send to PA 

yeah striker has a damage error ratio error, dark had one too. Strikers gives it an advantage so is not fixed, draks gave shai an advantage and was fixed in 2 weeks.

Go on, someone tell me how that is not creepy and wired from the Dev team… Have CM for once talk to us about this, I hear nothing! Talk to your bosses and ASK! We are players to, stop treating us like crap, it’s within your power to go and ask, you chosen not too.

I 100% serours that we need to stand upto this now, Its taking the piss, and becaus we don’t make a skink we get left in the dirt. PA and CM have let shai be the joke, this has let shai be ingored, our feedback on shai class deprioritied and time given to ‘real’ classes, cus shai a joke class to you! You tell use we have this wrong, I have givent you evidence that the fact is you do ignore us (drak case) and you have provied NONE that you do not (so you are outright lying in our faces for PR Proposes trying to make it look like we have this all wrong..). Therefor i have proven my case, you have failed to prove yous. Disgusting!

No more mister/miss Nice shai.

Balls coming up right? Live feed right? Events right? Time to organize right?

They want to treat us like crap but expect us to be nice member of the community… Double standards!

Addition;

I would have hoped the BDO community would have been a bit more supportive of these issues. As shai is in a really bad way, more than even shai players understand.

I would have hoped the BDO community could see past class and selfish wants and come together as gamers (was I expecting too much?).

Nah, have had to fight tooth and nail  over the last year to change the disrespect shown to shai players and stop shai being treated as a joke by even PA  & partners (Publicly), last year it was even the CMs laughing at the shai player, remember that?

So, that the BDO community and staff: pick the wrong class and you are allowed to be ignored an mock,even insulted, and its all on the internet for people to see, for me to pick from and call on should I wish to take the time. Streams, PA live casts, Partners….not me making you lot look bad, its empirical evidence of what you did. We just have to make it front and center

Yet here’re we still are, being ignored, as if things never changed

If we don’t get to be happy, why should you? Time we acted like the rest of the community, eh?

(and if staff for some reason are upset at this post, i advise you think carfuly and explain any moderation you take in detail. you know i record all my activity and have for the last 6 months - At this point, CMs should step in (AS theor job) and talk to us, and not silence us (delete posts) )

there is a community issues, and i don’t pull this out of thin air. There is even money behind it :( P must know this right? Yet they are letting a small number of voices damage the shai class. Why? You have pretened like shai player and imagianing these issues... i started showing they are real and you have been crule to tell use we have it wrong.

and given what we have seen (recorded) how do i know some of the staff are not involed? CMs talk to us on this.

Broken shai skills?

Striker damage mod?

Shai cenership issues and fales advertisign?

All big topics to the Shai comunity, never any interaction

But so fast to reduce her pve, yeah? So gonna bring all classes in range of Pve? And all classed including shai in range of PvP, or can shai get stuffed again?

!!Talk to us!!

TLDR?

There is inorganic feedback being process for the shai class and real money being spent (as shown) , This is to damage the shai class. This is huge! and PA are listing to this funded fake impression? (reddit,Garmoth,Youtubs.. hmm who are you listening too?)

Hope PA aren’t using garmoth.. how easy it would be to pay some people to input fake result, eh?

I have made myslef a central target for shai haters NA/EU, so when you think it's to much efort to click a like.. fight for your class. what can i say, i know i put in the effort and gave you the chance to fight this.

Lets keep calm and relax, we first need to see what the nerfs are before we start taking up our torches and pitchforks.

This anger is based on what has already passed... not what is to come.

shai has already had nerfs once and issues remain ignored. So no, no relaxing, this thing already happened, tomorrow there may be more unfairness, there may not, and I will address that when it happens.

Already stated to people that the nerf may not be what they think, maybe they will nerf something appropriate and put the misty timer back not normal.. we know nothing yet, i have been very clear about that with the shai in game.

But my statments here stand, based on what has aready happend. separates from what may happen next.

Easy to say let’s be relax but there is a good probably that people are interfering with the feedback of shai. This needs to be understood and addressed. No sitting back and relaxing, that’s how we got into this mess

Looking at Global Lab update, they still nerfing Shai skills damage. Really what's the point of this class if not being good in PvE? I guess I reroll Lahn or Striker like 95% of the player population. Lahn still gets buffs even now, when it's already considered one of the top PvE classes.

Why did I even put $ money and time into this class... It will end up as my mindless gathering and processing lifeskiller.

General statement (as some people read what I say here, but don’t use the form to post)

Each change seems like a slow creepy toward making shai a standard class.

Each reduction in PVE comes with some sort of PvP benefit. Yeah, they keep nerfing shai pve and boosting her pvp.

This benefits me each time.. But shai was meant to be non pvp – PA used to stated this in their patch notes.

I guess we will eventual see protected main damage attack (that’s when shai become easy mode, standard class), cool eh?

Well if you played shai from the start enjoy what she was and now want something different but was not willing to re-roll… sure you will be happy to see shai transformed from PvE to a normal PvP class type. And I think that what the people with voices want.

I find this a shame, shai was a special class and needs adjustments and fixed (she was going in the right direction till now), but not a total transformation into a standard class. Then she just becomes a mini kill bot, just another bdo class… so why didn't you pick another pvp class instead of destroying what shai was?… Thanks!

Challenge gone and shai becomes another hack and slash class with some buffs.

Well, too many shai find a reason to say, 'this is not that bad' or 'I cant do anything...' (cus it hard to fight, you have to face hate), is no benefit to me fights this. So why should I bother?

Just remember when shai is gone and becomes another standard class, you wanted this ><

"Shai has the highest number of hits and the highest defense reduction debuff for Florent skills. This point created synergy in the hunting ground where a small number of monsters had to be attacked for a long time, resulting in high efficiency. Shai wanted to adjust the part with excessively high efficiency while maintaining the above characteristics. We have lowered the excessive efficiency a bit, but we have made it possible to still maintain a strong feeling in hunting grounds that deal with a small number of monsters, such as Elvia: Gynt Hill or Gyfin Rasia Underground."

one two three

- The PvE damage of hits 1 and 2 has been changed as follows. (PvP damage is the same as before.)
* 1,2 Hit damage: 318% / 427% / 578% / 734% / 889% → 296% / 397% / 538% / 683% / 827%
* Damage during PvP Decrease rate: 27.3% / 27.4% / 27.3% / 27.2% / 27.3% → 21.9% / 21.9% / 21.7% / 21.8% / 21.8%

Eat This!

- Skill damage has been changed as follows. (PvP damage is the same as before.)
* Hit damage: 1275% → 1122%
* PvP damage reduction rate: 20% → 9%

Twirl-Three

- Skill damage has been changed as follows. (PvP damage is the same as before)
* Hit damage: 493% / 769% / 1002% → 444% / 692% / 902%
* PvP damage reduction rate: 20% / 20% / 20% → 11.2% / 11.2% / 11.1%

Good job with the post OP

I certainly hope that PA stops hitting Shai with nerfs.

Afterall, she is only viable in a few grinding spots in the entire game.