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Lifeskills stink compared to grinding
Jun 15, 2022, 04:00 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Sep 13, 2022, 12:31 (UTC)
# 11

Guys,are you serious? The effort of grinding mobs is way times bigger than any LS. Rotations, constantly duels for spots and etc etc.... If PA make LS profit same or close to Grinding's profit, WHO will ever grinding? This will be more like AfkDesertOnline . Few hours of grinding ,and your head hurts,getting brain dmg and your fingers..... Pressing only "R" at Piligram is way more easy,and even chilling,compared with grinding. And you want to say ,that the profit should be the same? Really?

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2022, 14:32 (UTC)
# 12
On: Jun 15, 2022, 04:00 (UTC), Written by Slashalot

I can grind with terrible gear and still make more money than i can with guru gathering and hunting.  For those of us who love lifeskills, this kills our appetite to continue on. PA get your shit together or it's time to find another game.

we dont lifeskill for money like we dont questing for money

but only to do something else than killing one billion monster by day

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2022, 16:10 (UTC)
# 13
On: Jun 15, 2022, 04:00 (UTC), Written by Slashalot

I can grind with terrible gear and still make more money than i can with guru gathering and hunting.  For those of us who love lifeskills, this kills our appetite to continue on. PA get your shit together or it's time to find another game.

Oh its terrible. Is bartering still worth doing? I've been working on my ship just to have a cool ship but the money for it later would be nice. But overall I think Morolan TV put it best with this statement. There's boat loads of pre-orders on gatherables  but the price is capped  on the marketplace so people see no reason to go out and gather them. Like I get wolf meat to try and get hards and sharps and selling that meat I make was is essentially nothing because of the market cap.

I don't think grind spots need to be nerfed but this game needs to have the same kind of money earned in other areas of the game.

Lifeskilling, PVP, and PVE grind/group grind / dungeons should  all yield good money!!!!

The game gates you with RNG enhancing anyways late game you could be rich af lifeskilling and still just have terrible RNG and be capped on gear for a long while. 

They need to make all activities profitable you have a choice what you want to do. Thats where BDO excels. You play how you want to play. Right now the only option is grinding in a circle.

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Last Edit : Sep 13, 2022, 17:49 (UTC)
# 15
On: Sep 13, 2022, 12:31 (UTC), Written by AngelusTalionis

Guys,are you serious? The effort of grinding mobs is way times bigger than any LS. Rotations, constantly duels for spots and etc etc.... If PA make LS profit same or close to Grinding's profit, WHO will ever grinding? This will be more like AfkDesertOnline . Few hours of grinding ,and your head hurts,getting brain dmg and your fingers..... Pressing only "R" at Piligram is way more easy,and even chilling,compared with grinding. And you want to say ,that the profit should be the same? Really?

The people who prefer to kill monsters instead doing other activities ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Also gathering for example is limited by energy.

Currently the only life skills which worth be done are the afk or semi-afk ones: fishing, cooking (mostly imperial boxes), alchemy (this doesn't worth for imperial boxes because the recipes have a loot of bottleneck ingredients) and trade.

Last Edit : Sep 13, 2022, 19:35 (UTC)
# 16
On: Sep 13, 2022, 12:31 (UTC), Written by AngelusTalionis

Guys,are you serious? The effort of grinding mobs is way times bigger than any LS. Rotations, constantly duels for spots and etc etc.... If PA make LS profit same or close to Grinding's profit, WHO will ever grinding? This will be more like AfkDesertOnline . Few hours of grinding ,and your head hurts,getting brain dmg and your fingers..... Pressing only "R" at Piligram is way more easy,and even chilling,compared with grinding. And you want to say ,that the profit should be the same? Really?

When people like you understand that life skills make little or no money and require more investment than pve gear?

Tell me how to earn money for manos tet accessories (not even mentioning pen because it is impossible to achieve)?

Life skill gives me zero money, I don't count some funny little money from imperial cooking (one month per year).

In addition, 35% tax in the market completely kills life skill when compared to raw silver (0% tax) from mobs thrash.

And then people like you cry on the forum that nobody wants to sell wood or meat.

On: Sep 13, 2022, 12:31 (UTC), Written by AngelusTalionis

WHO will ever grinding?

Who will ever life skill if even fresh "after season" player can easily make 200m raw silver per hour from mobs trash.

Last Edit : Sep 14, 2022, 10:15 (UTC)
# 17
On: Sep 13, 2022, 19:34 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

When people like you understand that life skills make little or no money and require more investment than pve gear?

Tell me how to earn money for manos tet accessories (not even mentioning pen because it is impossible to achieve)?

Life skill gives me zero money, I don't count some funny little money from imperial cooking (one month per year).

In addition, 35% tax in the market completely kills life skill when compared to raw silver (0% tax) from mobs thrash.

And then people like you cry on the forum that nobody wants to sell wood or meat.

Who will ever life skill if even fresh "after season" player can easily make 200m raw silver per hour from mobs trash.

lots of people lifeskill on a daily basis  u should check out florin chat  tons of us in there do

and if ur only making  a little silver per day one month out of a year doing imperial boxs... ur doing something SERIOUSLY wrong

Last Edit : Sep 14, 2022, 11:32 (UTC)
# 18
On: Sep 14, 2022, 10:15 (UTC), Written by Purr

lots of people lifeskill on a daily basis  u should check out florin chat  tons of us in there do

Your game is pointless and is nothing more than a waste of time.

On: Sep 14, 2022, 10:15 (UTC), Written by Purr

and if ur only making  a little silver per day one month out of a year doing imperial boxs... ur doing something SERIOUSLY wrong

Materials for creating food fall from the sky to you?

You need meat - you need to collect it, you waste your time and you need energy.
You need milk - you have to collect yourself, you waste your time and you need energy.

At the end, when you add up hours spent on collecting ingredients and cooking time, you see that you have earned a penny per hour, and you have a daily limit, so you didn't even earn 120m per day, but much less.

I will go and play one hour per day in marni private zone collecting mini parts for the infinity potion and I have 120-250m in an hour.

I've already written here that for a long time all life skills are dead and worthless, even bartering.

Also: if someone does not play since the premiere and is not a p2w player, he will never reach the Guru level (and this is not the end) because there is simply nothing to get experience points from, it is too slow.

Also: do not count cooking and fishing because: fishing has significantly reduced requirements for advancement to the next lvl, and cooking is fast because you have x10 and you can cook for free (I achieved Master 29 in 99% only on cooking beer).

Rest is much more difficult, such as alchemy, ingredients are so expensive that the production of anything is unprofitable.

I have stopped at such levels and I don't see the point and the POSSIBILITY to develop it further.  Anyway, why if I don't get any profit from it?

This game is designed so that you will never be able to reach the end. This is stupid, epic stupid.

Last Edit : Sep 14, 2022, 12:12 (UTC)
# 19

i am doing a full focus hours of grinding a day for near 1 billion, then do another 2-3 hours of super chill lifeskill for another 1.5 billion in general in my daily routine.

You have to stop wanting to systematically do only one and only thing, that this thing must necessarily be at the same level as all the others.

At no time should picking up weed or meat or cutting trees be rewarded more or equal than grinding which has a risk factor whether it is on the grind spot itself or by competition against players.
Especially since good PA patch prices a little randomly and because of his lifeskill was superior to grinding for several periods.
https://www.global-lab.playblackdesert.com/News/Notice/Detail?boardNo=1696&countryType=en-US&boardType=2&searchType=&searchText=&currentPage=1

Gathering get a 170-200m profit boost on GL 2 week ago. when the materials will have reached their new maximum price. We're going to have log gathering at 700 m / h.... Which technically beats 95% of the grind spots.. On yellow ls and aigris...

Last Edit : Sep 14, 2022, 12:52 (UTC)
# 20
On: Sep 14, 2022, 11:32 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Your game is pointless and is nothing more than a waste of time.

Materials for creating food fall from the sky to you?

You need meat - you need to collect it, you waste your time and you need energy.
You need milk - you have to collect yourself, you waste your time and you need energy.

At the end, when you add up hours spent on collecting ingredients and cooking time, you see that you have earned a penny per hour, and you have a daily limit, so you didn't even earn 120m per day, but much less.

I will go and play one hour per day in marni private zone collecting mini parts for the infinity potion and I have 120-250m in an hour.

I've already written here that for a long time all life skills are dead and worthless, even bartering.

Also: if someone does not play since the premiere and is not a p2w player, he will never reach the Guru level (and this is not the end) because there is simply nothing to get experience points from, it is too slow.

Also: do not count cooking and fishing because: fishing has significantly reduced requirements for advancement to the next lvl, and cooking is fast because you have x10 and you can cook for free (I achieved Master 29 in 99% only on cooking beer).

Rest is much more difficult, such as alchemy, ingredients are so expensive that the production of anything is unprofitable.

I have stopped at such levels and I don't see the point and the POSSIBILITY to develop it further.  Anyway, why if I don't get any profit from it?

This game is designed so that you will never be able to reach the end. This is stupid, epic stupid.

my current goal is 1 years worth of guru boxs   roughly 80,000 boxs  and even if i buy EVERYTHING to make it.. IE  dont gather a single item  only CM and vender buy   crafting cost  45,255,519,327 slver..  crafting profit..  59,286,182,593 silver    which puts the profit/hour at 915,434,124 silver  :D almost 1b per hour granted thats gonna be 51H 25M cooking and 13H 20M boxing all that up QQ but hey  59B profit is unprofitable according to u

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