Technically you can gather about 200-300mil silver per hour if you arereasonably well geared without max mastery and then AFK cook or alchemy or whatever you want with it and make more money (closer to like 700mil / hour). But that's only on the same thing that everybody else is already crafting and only if you sell what you're trying to sell. Since everybody is doing it, you won't be selling your crafted goods overnight.

It's not bad money but it's not great. It's much less than PvE grinding and it's just as tiresome to do unless you're AFKing, but with the rising cost of electricity, you may as well not AFK craft anymore.

The prices of raw materials are fine on the CM but the cost of the outcome after crafting is horrible. I will bring the cushion example again... It sells for like 300k max price but the ingredients are double that, perhaps more now after today's update (i'm not sure). Why would anyone want to craft pillows if they only lose money? Sure, craft them for yourself for your own house but that's different. Part of life skilling is being able to craft things like cushions, tables, etc... But we are penalized for doing so.

just replace your radiator and your lamp by your pc and you should be fine for afk lifeskill ^_^

I told you once that nobody cares about opinion:

a) person who has been playing since the premiere

b) US player because I'm from Europe and here the value of pearls is much higher.

ROTFL. And another one who has a problem with basic math and does not know that guru boxes are scam and trap.

Also: maybe in USA players are idiots, but not in Europe, in Europe, no one will sell you mats below the box price.

Also: I really don't care about some random numbers pulled out of the (.).

Also (once again): 59b per year it makes people who kill mobs for thrash laughs.

some people live in a different reality.

not discounting the main argument since i also think lifeskilling has fallen off compared to grinding, but saying that you can't profit from guru boxing from market is a straight lie, and it's harder to lose silver than it is to make silver.

 while boxing from market is much less profit than making it yourself, the time you save from not making it might be worth it to you.

here's a math based sheet that has auto market price adjustment. make a copy of it and you can mess around with the settings and find out for yourself. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D7mFcXYFm4BUS_MKxTvgBY2lXkGtwWqn2AW91ntUvzE/edit#gid=1407244641

here's a sample- EU market prices, not taking in seal value, only buying your meals from the market and only if there are 15k+ items on the marketplace, while somehow having 0 turn in mastery

Literally the lowest amount of money you can make on each box. you can literally make a shai and start with 285 mastery and buy pickled vegetable from the market and make more profit

even without a sheet, it's easy to do the math yourself and find out considering there's only so many elements and no hidden cost along the way. let's use NA price for pickled vegetable for example, as the price is actually HIGHER than eus:

Let's ignore that there are CHEAPER ones and use the max price of it as it is.

3280x18 per box = 59,040 per box

that's already lower than the 120,000 BASE profit of the box. with a perpetual 250% bonus the selling price of professional box is 300k.

240,960 silver profit per box, and this is before factoring in mastery bonus.

When you are guru and at a realistic mastery of 750, this is what the profits look like:

Again, you can easily check the math yourself if you don't believe it. I will note that the price reflect the "market price" and sometimes the lowest price of meals are higher, but it doesn't make that much of a difference.

to show the difference, here's 750 cooking and turn in mastery profit per box, with both buying and making box profit.

While its a lot less from making the meals yourself, saying that you lose money or that its a scam is literally just misinformation. of course there are some meals you lose money but you just don't do those lol. not sure why people are trying to gatekeep imperial, especially since there isn't any competition per reset anymore. 

"no one will sell you mats below the box price" this ignores the fact that there is a turn in limit so pure lifeskiller has to sell meals to make money lol.

You an pearl items. Litterally cant math and then call us idiots, how are you not banned. 

Get good. If you dont know how to use a pre made calculator for you or use a calculator yourself , doesnt that mean you havent looked in the mirror.

I do life skills an pve. You been proven wrong an go to the "pearls are cheaper  = game easier"

Considering you havent checked the markets you would of known on EU alot of things are cheaper than NA rn. If you cant work out balenos meals being 25,700 each on eu (cheaper than NA sitting at 28k rn)does profit from guru cooking then you have issues. At 31k each an higher is when profits drop.

Telling someone they cant do math but hasnt even looked at  himself .

In my Opinion I think it should be  equal on the income be it gathering or griding.   I mean every one plays diffrently some love to grind some love to craft to get their income.  It is same with EVE online some loves to mission run som love to trade some loves to build ship some just want to mine.  And eve online suffers the same stupid shit where the high income is killing shit.  While crafting/mining is a steady income but to make billions to buy the ship you want you have to spend dubble/tripple the time it would take some one griding missions or do abysall and so on.  

But in my opnion is that however you play the game the cash you earn should be equal.  So players can play how ever they want with out feeling left out the dirt.  And if you don´t want stupidly rich players don´t make them earn 500+mill an hour. 

And no it should not matter that PVE is harder than crafting your not fucking special just becuse you spend hours grinding becuse that´s your own choise on how you spend your time and at the end of the day it´s a fucking game and people should have fun and feel like the time they spent was rewarding. 

And no don´t start compareing shit to real life becuse this is a fucking game. And trying to compare it to real life only makes you sound insane that you can´t see the differnce bewten fantasy and real life and need medical help. 

bdolytics isnt pulled from air  good try tho  and as even asdsadfas showed u    u have no idea what your talking about

plenty of us lifeskill  plenty of uis make silver from liveskilling   lots of us turn profit from lifeskilling   and yeah the silver could definitly be better tho considering ur only making 250m in marni zone by your own admission :D  prob like half the lifeskills are making more than you per hour LMAO

Increase the base price on all items in the following categories by around 300% 

Materials

Consumables

Alchemy stones (this one more like 1000%)

-excluding vell or Khan hearts.

Mount items

Wagon items

Ship items 

Then it might be interesting to lifeskill

ROTFL, professional boxes. 

With my 1115 Mastery I can sell professional box for 395k. 

So minus cost 59k we have 336k per box "profit". Why "profit"? Because with my daily limit = 205 boxes, this boxes will give daily: 68,8m. EPIC ROTFL. 70m muuahahahahaaa.

How long will I keep collecting for 3 black stars pen, 6 pen accessories, 6 manos pen accessories, all other manos clothes pen, and full fallen god pen set? 50 years? 100 years?

Master box from my own production gives me 673k x 205 = almost 138m per day. These are still pennies. Plus, count how long it takes to get materials and cooking time.

Show me how you make money from cooking 1b a day then we can talk seriously.

Until then EOT.

Guru boxes give even less than professional. Cost: 630k. Sell price? 850-900k? Profit: 220-270k per box.

I don't pay 10 USD for 1000 pearls but 50 EUR for 1000 pearls.

If I had the price as US in purchasing power, I would not even speak on this forum because I would have the best items in the game for a long time and I would not even play in some funny life skill.

They increased. Effect was this, we had a million preorder meat, now we have a million pieces of meat for sale that nobody wants to buy because its cost exceeds the price of the ready meal and, consequently, the cost of the imperial box.

PA has to adjust the price of imperial boxes. Not funny 800k for eg. guru box but 8m per box, or even 20m per box.