whether or not it's good money was never the question. your statements all been proven false so you're moving goalpost from "its not profitable and its a scam and no one sells below box price" to "its only 70m a day" while ignoring the fact that that was never your argument. 

it's profitable- you explained that yourself now.

it's not a scam- again you've already said it's profitable. you also failed to mention that it takes 5 minute MAX to buy, pack, and sell a days worth of crate, much less if you make weeks/months worth at a time. 

people will sell you mats below box price- you've accepted that. 

not to mention imperial boxes are a small subsection of the cooking lifeskill as a whole, if we're talking about cooking profits. little hints for you- imperial is a very small minority of income for cookers, and that the meals on the market are created by someone :)

imagine throwing away 70m a day for free becuase you can't understand time cost lmfao. u keep doing u bud, i'll take spending 10 minutes total to pack crates and login for 500m a week.

Nope, I don' care this 70m because these are so pennies that it is not worth bending down for them.

What did you not understand about what I wrote earlier?

How long will I keep collecting for 3 black stars pen, 6 pen accessories, 6 manos pen accessories, all other manos clothes pen, and full fallen god pen set? 50 years? 100 years?

Mob trash is now worth colossally more than 3 years ago, while the price of imperial boxes is the same as 3 years ago.

And a long time ago imperial boxes made sense, I earned money on them for kzarka tri, dandelion tri, kutum tri, all armor and other stuff.

But today while I need hundreds of billions, the amount of 70 million is just ridiculous and irrelevant. Even if it's 70m every day. If it were 700 million then yes, it would make sense.

This shouldn't even be an argument search the NA marketplace for mats oh look there's like nothing there....  why is that it's because grinding is way better money per hour.

Done. The point isn't that you don't  make money lifeskilling.  The point is lifeskilling takes energy energy as a resource has lost most of its value  because how much money you can make killing mobs in a circle. In comparison to gathering for an hour. Part of that is market prices not increasing on the goods. This is a issue . And I don't think nerfing grinding is a solution just let goods on the market  related to lifeskilling not cap out so damn low on market value. 

Look at the pre-orders for wolf meat. Yet no one is gathering it hmmmmmm could be cause its not profitable to.

at least you understand your previous arguments were all bogus. 

and how long will it take for you to get those gear? how much are you making in a year? there has to be some reference point here for your argument to to have any weight at all. are you currently making 100b a year? 200? 500? if you're only making 100b a year and passing on 25b a year passively because you don't understand math then there really isn't any more to say. 

The argument here isn't about whether lifeskilling is bad, we've established that we both believe that lifeskilling is not worth the effort. This particular one stemmed from his misinformation filled post regarding imperial turn in that he's now accepted is completely wrong, and is now arguing the money is bad rather than that it's a scam and no one sells mats for below box price.

1. I do not follow these prices because the price of mats has always been higher than the price of the imperial box.

And I don't understand why someone sells them below this price, loses out on it.

2. Why should I do it if master boxes of my own production gave me more, professional boxes would take my daily limit.

But it doesn't change anything anyway. Life skills still generates 10 times less profit per hour than mob trash.

1. a majority of the meals on the market have been cheaper than the price of imperial box.... pretty much since the start of imperial boxes. they sell it because cooking lifeskill isn't just imperial boxes as they make more than they can turn in.

2. its not just limited to professional/master boxes. you can buy from market at pretty much every turn in level. cooking it urself definitely makes you more, but buying it from the market to box is effortless, and takes 5 minute max from start to finish turning in. 

again i agree that life skill falls behind grinding by a lot, and again that was never the purpose of this argument. 

Since lifeskill specifically gathering and hunting is gated by energy, it should be MORE valuable than grinding not the opposite.

Just increase all materials, crafted items, and imperial hand in by 300% to make up for the inflation created by grinding PVE. 

Injecting the economy with a ton of silver (PvE grinding) and don't make it worth to do certain activities just breaks the market.