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# 61
On: Jun 23, 2022, 16:10 (UTC), Written by CaptainCourage

You can't grind the same mobs as somebody else and the 2 of you get gains.

That half dosen group spots that got added cause ppl like you would commit sudoku if they would see this...

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Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 16:54 (UTC)
# 62
Écrit le : 23 juin 2022, 16:30 (UTC), par : CatDK

That half dosen group spots that got added cause ppl like you would commit sudoku if they would see this...

First : what are "people like me ?" Be more specific please.

Second : how long did it take PA to add more group spots ? Years. Quite a long time for a developper that is supposed to be a MMO specialist. Why ... well maybe because PA are not that good at designing teamplay  and group activities actually. Do you remember their formation gameplay attempts in beta, to try to add synergies and teamplay between players when they discovered that their classes core gampelay had actually none, thus, no real cooperation was required ? Yes, not that convincing.

So I take BDO for what it is mostly : a solo game with musou gameplay on a seamless world where you can from time to time encounter somewhat improved AI's, aka other players, and I'm ok with that.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 17:48 (UTC)
# 63
On: Jun 23, 2022, 15:57 (UTC), Written by CaptainCourage

And I just told you that, on the subjects posted by people or brought by content creators, Open PvP, since it's the subject of this very thread, is clearly not the most discussed nor the most fundamental despite appearences, because the core issue lies elsewhere.

I'm fully aware what issue people post about the game an that not all of them are related to open world PVP, no were did I say that all complaints related to this game are about PVP. You quoted me telling someone that it is possible to understand how a community feels about something via online posting through the forums, reddit, and content creators again to someone who claimed it impossible to judge how a community feels about something. You quoted my post an just put words into my month claiming pure dog shit an hearsay for what ever reason.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 18:26 (UTC)
# 64
Écrit le : 23 juin 2022, 17:45 (UTC), par : Priato

I'm fully aware what issue people post about the game an that not all of them are related to open world PVP, no were did I say that all complaints related to this game are about PVP. You quoted me telling someone that it is possible to understand how a community feels about something via online posting through the forums, reddit, and content creates again to some who claimed it impossible to judge how a community feels about something. You quoted my post an just put words into my month claiming pure dog shit an hearsay for what ever reason.

How does it work when you discuss with somebody else ?

You make your lines and the ones of your interlocutor all by yourself ?

Because you seem to be quite aware of what I'm thinking and why I did post, even better than me and even when I explained it, while still being quite aggressive.

Show us on the doll where the bad poster touched you, because sodium levels seem quite high there.

Maybe I just quoted you to emphasise the fact that, using the sources you mentionned in your post to gather user feedback (reddit, forums, content creators work, because yes you are right, we have the means to have an idea of the general mood of the userbase and their main concerns) the subjects discussed in this very thread, Open PvP and PvX, are not that much of a problem for the community, thus making the discussion going back on tracks at the same time ? I did not say that you said every issue is abvout PvP, just mentionned the fact that it's not possible to build an argumentation about the subject of the thread using the sources you mentionned.

If that pleases you, I can also say that Salasuud was wrong when he told you that we have no means of knowing what the general wishes of the community are, because the sources for said feedback exist, ad you rightfully mentionned.

So, will you finally go back on the subject of the discussion, Open PvP and PvE, or will you keep on commenting about what you think other posters intentions are ?

Are you sure you're not the one seeking dramas, something you accused other posters of doing ? Because you really start to look like so. Quite ironic to see you reproaching PeaceInChaos his supposed "Me Me Me" attitude when you behave exactly like this since 3 or 4 posts.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 18:53 (UTC)
# 65
On: Jun 23, 2022, 17:45 (UTC), Written by Priato

I'm fully aware what issue people post about the game an that not all of them are related to open world PVP, no were did I say that all complaints related to this game are about PVP. You quoted me telling someone that it is possible to understand how a community feels about something via online posting through the forums, reddit, and content creators again to someone who claimed it impossible to judge how a community feels about something. You quoted my post an just put words into my month claiming pure dog shit an hearsay for what ever reason.

You say it, but as many content creators and even simple reddit users live by the conflict, you can't expect these contents to clearly represent the general opinion.

So no, you can't understand how a community feels about a game based on that. You only know what the vocal ones want to say, or what they say based on their hidden objective. 

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 19:05 (UTC)
# 66
On: Jun 22, 2022, 23:25 (UTC), Written by Priato

There never a discussion with you, you just want to make drama an nothing else. You come into threads just to start drama, derail, and pointless and baseless argue. Again ever wonder why over half of your post history is just post you made that were deleted by forum moderators? No you never will understand why that is your too self absorbed to see it.

I looked at my comment history and it's nice that others can too by clicking my name.  Funny.  "Over half" of my comments are not deleted by mods?  Others can click my name too and see for themselves, no private account also, and not commenting from a non-linked account *cough cough*.

I'd say it's more you who come here to start drama, derail, and all that you accuse me of.  By reading the comments on this thread, it's not hard to see. 

This reponse from you is just more deflections and ad hominem (attacking the character of someone because you failed miserably in your argument).  You're boring.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 19:19 (UTC)
# 67
On: Jun 23, 2022, 17:59 (UTC), Written by CaptainCourage

So, will you finally go back on the subject of the discussion, Open PvP and PvE, or will you keep on commenting about what you think other posters intentions are ?

Are you sure you're not the one seeking dramas, something you accused other posters of doing ? Because you really start to look like so. Quite ironic to see you reproaching PeaceInChaos his supposed "Me Me Me" attitude when you behave exactly like this since 3 or 4 posts.

Looks like I'm not the only one who noticed.  *oh well* I'd suggest not to take it too seriously.  Getting emotionally involved with people who love to use ad hominem is usually more taxing on you.  So I'd suggest to use your energy on spreading awareness on truth instead of someone who will do nothing but zap that good energy away :)

About Open World PvP and pure PvE servers, this is something that's been covered by the devs in numerous dev statements.  This is not to say things cannot change in the future becuase BDO is supposed to keep evolving with the playerbase ever since launch, which is has.  But I can provide actual evidence - dev statements with links - to why they do not add pure PvE servers and allow Open World PvP being possible, at least right now.  Thing about OWPvP, though, as a disclaimer, many seem to equate it to harrassment.  In-game harrassment is a punishable offense, ranging from Red Status for minor infractions to outright account banning for more serious infractions.

In a nutshell = Pure PvE servers goes against the "main content" of BDO, which is players fighting monsters alongside each other.  Alongside doesn't always mean "together" or "against".  It merely means "next to each other".  Whether "against" or "together" happens is up to us players to decide and that's something integral for BDO.  It allows for player-driven-content, like GvG, player-interaction, which is a vital piece of the MMORPG puzzle, and more.  Just stating how things are.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 19:20 (UTC)
# 68
On: Jun 23, 2022, 17:59 (UTC), Written by CaptainCourage

So, will you finally go back on the subject of the discussion, Open PvP and PvE, or will you keep on commenting about what you think other posters intentions are ?

I'd rather have no discussion at all if the one I'm discussing with can't be honest to themselves an to what their replying too. I made a post to someone who was claiming that obtaining community feedback is impossible, you quote me claiming complaints about open world PVP don't exist, I quote you stating that this thread is a complaint about open world PVP, you quote me claiming that I think all complaints about the game are only about open world PVP, I quote you an call you out for putting words in my mouth, you quote me and again claim I think all complaints are only about open world PVP an nothing, I quote you again an state that I do not think this way an tell you to stop pointing words into my mouth, you quote me again an say I'm a drama queen.

So yes my bad sorry for correcting your BS an hearsay, next time I won't even engage with a conversation with you. And again no I don't see a reason to have a discussion when the person I'm discussing with can't be honest, either because they're too closed minded or because they don't want to acknowledge anything that contradicts their claims. But it seems honesty doesn't exist in 2022.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 19:22 (UTC)
# 69
On: Jun 23, 2022, 19:05 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

I looked at my comment history and it's nice that others can too by clicking my name.  Funny.  "Over half" of my comments are not deleted by mods?  Others can click my name too and see for themselves, no private account also, and not commenting from a non-linked account *cough cough*.

I'd say it's more you who come here to start drama, derail, and all that you accuse me of.  By reading the comments on this thread, it's not hard to see. 

This reponse from you is just more deflections and ad hominem (attacking the character of someone because you failed miserably in your argument).  You're boring.

What the purpose of this post exactly?

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 19:26 (UTC)
# 70
On: Jun 23, 2022, 19:22 (UTC), Written by Priato

What the purpose of this post exactly?

Showing your lies. As he said it. 

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