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This Game is killing my love for mmo Games
Mar 11, 2021, 10:29 (UTC)
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# 42
On: Mar 11, 2021, 20:29 (UTC), Written by Findubar

Since when is full tet considered not even playing the game. We got some real cave dwellers here :O 

Since they give it for free ,I guess.

Last Edit : Mar 19, 2021, 22:59 (UTC)
# 43

BDO is better described as simply a grinder with online elements. The core of the game isn't an MMORPG. In fact, most of the game discourages the usual elements of an MMORPG especially the social system that is integral to an MMO. You are better off treating BDO for what it is: a single-player online grinder. You have the option to be social and group but grouping is more of a cumbersome nuisance instead of anything useful. Everyone is an enemy who is in the way of your resources.

Last Edit : Mar 19, 2021, 20:34 (UTC)
# 44
On: Mar 13, 2021, 17:04 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

A whole generation of brainwashed WoW clones players displays on this topic. What most of those people don't get is they have been forced to group for years thus they feel lost when they play a MMO such as BDO which is about freedom and where being social is an opt in process.

 

Lol BDO has less player freedom and expression then ESO, FFXIV, and WoW each.

 

- Can't trade with other players.

- Can't viably group with other player until in the top 10% gearwise.

- Can't craft for a profit. Hell in 90% of the cases crafting items in BDO will net you a loss. Because in most cases the ingredients are priced more than the item they make.

- Can't viably PvP because cash shop focused PvP system.

- Can't really grind freely because overgeared savages camp all the decent spots.

- Can't even dance in BDO. 

The list of what you can't do in BDO. That you can in all the mainstream MMOs goes on.

 

Out of all the MMOs I've played in the past 19 years. BDO is by far the most restrictive MMO. To the point I personally consider it a MMORPG-lite.

 

I just think you are either trolling or a very inexperienced MMO gamer.

Last Edit : Mar 19, 2021, 20:39 (UTC)
# 45

then go play ESO, FFXIV, and WoW. 

 

keeps trying to compare apples to oranges and say oranges are better, sure they are both fruits and taste is subjective, if you want oranges go eat some oranges.

 

nobody is holding a gun onto your head and making you eat apples

Last Edit : Mar 19, 2021, 20:53 (UTC)
# 46
On: Mar 13, 2021, 13:10 (UTC), Written by KhaosThanathan

I'll probably get cursed at for stating this, but: BDO is not a real MMORPG. Sure, you have Vell that barely qualifies as multiplayer content and you also have Node Wars for the upper 1% (or probably rather 1‰) of the playerbase, but that's it. In essence, BDO is a single player game with the purpose of creating the illusion of playing a MMORPG to give people the illusion that they're playing a MMORPG. That's also reinforced through almost every aspect of the game design - be it the vastly oversized game world whose sparsely population (probably not even 1‰ of the total landscape is actually usable for actual gameplay) is supposed to enforce PvP, be it the insane power-creep induced by the ever increasing gear progression and other means, etc. pp. BDO is simply best at killing your time through endless grind - BDO offers a very small carrot, but a very long stick.

That's pretty much been common knowledge for a long time.  However, it's also back up by a lot of outside data.  MANY players today want that type of game experience.  They don't want forced grouping, raids, or dungeons.  They want to be able to log in play for 30 minutes, makes some progress and leave.

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# 47
On: Mar 19, 2021, 20:37 (UTC), Written by PootyPoot

then go play ESO, FFXIV, and WoW. 

 

keeps trying to compare apples to oranges and say oranges are better, sure they are both fruits and taste is subjective, if you want oranges go eat some oranges.

 

nobody is holding a gun onto your head and making you eat apples

 

Wow way to take what I was saying way out of context. I didn't say anything was better than the other. I marely was refuting the claims of the post I quoted. Which stated BDO is about freedom. Which is furthest from the truth. Then I went and listed the things that supported my statement.

 

I'm amazed that you took what I said as a attack against BDO. Which clearly wasn't. It was just proving how wrong the post I quoted was. Nothing more and nothing less.

Last Edit : Mar 19, 2021, 22:56 (UTC)
# 48
On: Mar 19, 2021, 22:27 (UTC), Written by FearlessMe

 

Wow way to take what I was saying way out of context. I didn't say anything was better than the other. I marely was refuting the claims of the post I quoted. Which stated BDO is about freedom. Which is furthest from the truth. Then I went and listed the things that supported my statement.

 

I'm amazed that you took what I said as a attack against BDO. Which clearly wasn't. It was just proving how wrong the post I quoted was. Nothing more and nothing less.

BDO is a sandbox, but just because a game is a sandbox doesn't mean it has freedom in it. Just look at Fallout New Vagus for example game is an open world sandbox but if you try do something like say go north when the game tells you to go south you run into a wall of death claws you have no hope of killing at lvl one with your 9mm pistol and 10 bullets, plus you'll need to go south anyway to progress 99% of the quest in the game. An the game follows this strict design constently oh found a vault but oh can't open it cause it quest locked and you didn't go to such and such place first, want join the New California Republic well you can't cause you haven't progressed the main story enough so the NPC just tells you to get lost. So ya you can go anywere you want in a sandbox game but your forced to progress and play the game how the game wants you too not how you want too. This is just facts people fail to realize about game design.

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Last Edit : Mar 19, 2021, 22:57 (UTC)
# 49
On: Mar 19, 2021, 22:39 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

BDO is a sandbox, but just because a game is a sandbox doesn't mean it has freedom in it. Just look at Fallout New Vagus for example game is an open world sandbox but if you try do something like say go north when the game tells you to go south you run into a wall of death claws you have no hope of killing at lvl one with your 9mm pistol and 10 bullets, plus you'll need to go south anyway to progress 99% of the quest in the game. An the game follows this strict design constently oh found a vault but oh can't open it cause it quest locked and you didn't go to such and such place first, want join the New California Republic well you can't cause you haven't progressed the main story enough so the NPC just tells you to get lost. So ya you can go anywere you want in a sandbox game but your forced to progress and play the game how the game wants you too not how you want too.

 

I don't think sandbox far as gaming goes, mean what you want it to mean. If you are going to call BDO a sandbox game. Then you are going to have the call most of the mainstream themepark MMOs sandboxes too.

 

The player in BDO has extremely little to say about the environment. And the way they play the game. Which completely goes against the spirit of a sandbox game. What BDO does, is keep you on a pear of tracks and steer you through your progression. Remember you can't even freely interact with the in-game economy. Because they devs also controls how you do that too.  The Devs also controls who becomes a Have and who becomes a Have-Not. (Player A pushed from 500 GS to 600 GS with little to no effort. Meanwhile Player B puts in 100 times the work and effort Player A does and can't even push past 550 GS.) So much for player agency.

 

Again coming from a player who played actual sandbox MMOs. BDO does not even attempt to mimic them in the slightest. BDO is actually more controlling of the player than most mainstream Themepark MMOs. That is a fact. So tell me again, in your own words how is BDO a sandbox MMO?

Last Edit : Mar 19, 2021, 22:58 (UTC)
# 50
On: Mar 16, 2021, 03:52 (UTC), Written by ShaiPotumus

BS. In WOW, EQ2, and most other games you are NOT forced to group - but it is an option. There is no such option in this game - it is 99% solo and afk oriented.

 

FACTS! But who cares about those. The SIMPS sure as hell don't.

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